* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] OKAY, NOW WE'RE SET. GOOD MORNING. [Call to Order] WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 29TH, 2026 BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HAMNER, CHAIR OF THE BOC. I WANNA WARM THE DISTRICT STAFF PUBLIC, UH, FOR THIS MEETING. WE DO HAVE 11 MEMBERS ATTENDING IN PERSON IN THE, UH, BOARD ROOM, AND WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS, UH, PARTICIPATING REMOTELY CURRENTLY. ONE OF THEM IS, UM, HERE, UNLESS I HEAR AS I'M DOING THIS, UH, UH, WALK IN. JENNIFER MCDOWELL. UH, MEMBER MCDOWELL. CAN YOU APPEAR ON THE SCREEN ZOOM SCREEN AND STATE WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER ADULTS PRESENT IN THE ROOM YOU'RE ATTENDING FROM? I'M WORKING ON IT. SORRY. UH, HELLO. GOOD MORNING. THERE ARE NO ADULTS PRESENT IN THE ROOM THAT I AM ATTENDING FROM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STAFF. IS, UH, ALLIE LEWIS AVAILABLE? NO. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. WE'LL INTRODUCE HER WHEN SHE COMES IN AND WE'LL DO THE SAME. UM, [Chair’s Remarks] I'M GONNA HOLD ON MAKING OUR, OUR NORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS. I TYPICALLY INCLUDE IN THE CHAIR'S REMARKS UNTIL AFTER A PRESENTATION BY OUR SPECIAL GUEST, UH, DEPUTY, UH, SUPERINTENDENT SALCITO. HOWEVER, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT FOR THE MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC THAT A REVISED TABLE OF SCHOOL ENROLLMENT AND SCHOOL CLASSROOM CAPACITY FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT ARE PRESENTED AT TODAY'S MEETING HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE MEETING MATERIALS. BOC UH, MEMBERS RECEIVED THE LATEST VERSION VIA EMAIL YESTERDAY, AND IT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE ONLINE MEETING MATERIALS THAT YOU RECEIVED. AND THERE ARE ALSO COPIES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. RECENTLY, L-A-U-S-D HAS REQUIRED TO UNDERGO A PHYSICAL RISK ASSESSMENT, OR FHRA PREPARED BY THE STATE'S PHYSICAL CRISIS AND MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE TEAM. WE REFER TO 'EM AS FC MAT. IT WAS NOTED THAT THE SCHOOL CAPACITY NUMBER IN THE REPORT WAS CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY COMPARED TO THE DISTRICT METHODOLOGY. UH, THIS DIFFERENCE IN CAPACITY WAS PRIMARILY RELATED TO DISTRICT, EXCLUDING WHAT'S CALLED, SET ASIDE CLASSROOMS FROM THE TOTAL CLASSROOM COUNTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THE SCHOOL AND CALCULATED WITH THE SCHOOL CAPACITY. SO, THERE ARE TWO CAPACITY METHODOLOGIES PROVIDED IN THIS REVISED TABLE, AND WE WILL, UH, ADDRESS THIS AS WE MOVE ON, UH, WHETHER IT'S TODAY'S MEETING OR IN A FUTURE MEETING. AND WITH THAT, LOOK, I DID THIS IN THREE MINUTES. ITEM NUMBER ONE, [1. Stronger Schools Together Presentation (Information Only)] STRONGER SCHOOLS TOGETHER, AND WITHOUT ANY OTHER INTERRUPTIONS, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT PEDRO, UH, SALCITO, UH, DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT. WELCOME. WELL, THANK YOU TO COME AND PRESENT ON, ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK. UM, THE DISTRICT ABOUT A MONTH AGO, EMBARKED ON STARTING TO KIND OF SOCIALIZE AND SET THE EXPECTATION AROUND WHY WE'RE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AROUND OUR DESIRE TO STRENGTHEN OUR SCHOOLS. UM, SO OUR STRONGER SCHOOLS INITIATIVE, UM, IN SIMPLE TERMS, IS ABOUT HAVING THE SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE TALK ABOUT SPACE UTILIZATION, CAMPUS UTILIZATION, PROGRAM UTILIZATION, AND, AND PARTICIPATION ACROSS THE DISTRICT TO GET TO A CLEARER PLAN ABOUT HOW WE STRENGTHEN SCHOOLS AND STRENGTHEN THE EXPERIENCE, UH, OF STUDENTS IN WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE IN LA UNIFIED. AND SO, WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING THE NEXT MONTH GOING OUT TO COMMUNITY, HAVING AND SHARING THIS PRESENTATION TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE FOR OUR ONGOING ENGAGEMENT THAT WE KNOW WILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS, UM, TO EXECUTE ON A BROADER PLAN ON WHAT IT MEANS TO, UH, POTENTIALLY CLOSE CONSOLIDATE, MERGE SCHOOLS, UM, INVEST IN PROGRAMS THAT ULTIMATELY MEET THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS. AND WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE DESERTS ACADEMICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE. AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS, THE DISTRICT HAS, UH, COMPLETED A LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS THAT HAS INFORMED THE PROGRAMMATIC SIDE TODAY IS ABOUT DEVELOPING THE CRITERIA THAT WILL ULTIMATELY INFORM BOTH PROGRAMMATIC AND FACILITY USE FOR OUR PROGRAMS IN, IN THE DISTRICT. SO WE START FROM A PLACE OF WHY TODAY'S ENGAGEMENT IS NOT ABOUT, UH, ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF SET CRITERIA THAT WE WILL USE TO, UM, MAKE DECISIONS IN THE DISTRICT. IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT'S THE CONDITION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO AS A DISTRICT. AND SO OUR INITIAL ENGAGEMENTS ARE ABOUT PROVIDING INFORMATION, SETTING CONTEXT, UM, CREATING A SPACE FOR EARLY QUESTIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS, UM, THAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERING AS THEY GO OUT TO COMMUNITY, ENGAGE FAMILIES, ENGAGED STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEES IN THE DISTRICT. AND SO OUR, OUR THEME IS ABOUT LISTENING, UM, AND SHARING AND ACTUALLY CREATING A SHARED UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR COMMUNITY. THIS [00:05:01] ENGAGEMENT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING IMMEDIATE INPUT ON CRITERIA DEVELOPMENT. UM, WHAT ARE THE DISTRICT SHOULD BE, UM, BUILDING INTO A DECISION MATRIX OR FRAMEWORK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT A LATER DATE. BECAUSE OUR INTENTION IS TO ACTUALLY CO-DESIGN MANY OF OUR INPUT SESSIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN THE DISTRICT. WOW, THAT'S SENSITIVE. UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WORK, THE WORK ALWAYS HAS TO BE GROUNDED IN THE STUDENT PUTTING STUDENTS, UH, AS OUR VERY FIRST MISSION IN THIS DISTRICT, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY BUILD A PLAN THAT ENSURES THAT WE HAVE AN EFFECTIVE STEWARDSHIP MODEL WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT OF RESOURCES, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE BROAD ENGAGEMENT THAT IS DIVERSE, INCLUSIVE, AND ULTIMATELY INCLUDES, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE IMAGE CHANGED. THE, THE SLIDES DROPPED FROM THE PRESENTATION. WE'RE FOLLOWING ALONG HERE. WE HAVE THE HARD COPIES TOO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL FOCUS OF, OF THE STUDENT IS ENSURING THAT WE ALSO HAVE A CLEAR ACCESS TO PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, A FOCUS ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AS A PRIMARY, UH, DELIVERABLE IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES, UM, IN THE DISTRICT. AND THAT WE ALSO BRING EQUITY TO OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS, UM, AND THAT WE CREATE ACCESS FOR ALL. AND THAT THERE ISN'T A VARIANCE OF EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRAM ACCESS IN THE DISTRICT. AND ULTIMATELY IT'S ENSURING THAT THERE'S A SAFE, SECURE, AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR STUDENTS. AND SO, WITH, WITH LEADING WITH THAT, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF OUR SCHOOLS TODAY AND THE EXPERIENCE OF STUDENTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND THE DISTRICT HAS INVESTED IN VARIOUS PROGRAMS TO BRING EQUITY IN EXPERIENCE, BUT THERE'S STILL A LONG WAYS TO GO TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CHANGING ENVIRONMENT IN LA, WE KNOW THAT TODAY WE'RE SERVING UPWARDS OF 300,000 LESS STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOLS, DRIVEN BY DECLINING BIRTH RATES, UH, CHANGING HOUSING PATTERNS. UM, WE WERE RESPONDING AT THE TIME TO AN EXCESS OF OVERCROWDING IN OUR SCHOOLS. AND SO WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT TODAY MAY HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY FULLY SUBSCRIBED 10 YEARS AGO THAT ARE UNDERUTILIZED, AND THAT WE ALSO SEE SHIFTS IN MIGRATION, RIGHT? UM, IN STATE MIGRATION, YOU SEE GROWTH INLAND EMPIRE, CENTRAL VALLEY, UM, AS FAMILIES SEEK OUT CHEAPER HOUSING, UH, DIFFERENT WORKFORCE CENTERS. UM, AND SO WE KNOW FOLKS ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S, UH, ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO JUST THEIR GENERAL LIVELIHOOD THAT HAS IMPACTED ENROLLMENT IN OUR, IN OUR DISTRICT. AND SO WHEN ENROLLMENT IS IMPACTED, WHEN YOU SEE A DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT, IT LEADS TO A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROGRAM INTEGRITY WHEN IT COMES TO ENSURING THAT STUDENTS HAVE A WIDE ACCESS OR WIDE RANGE OF ACCESS TO ADVANCED PLACEMENT COURSES, ENRICHMENT COURSES, AND THEN PRIMARILY AT THE SECONDARY LEVEL. AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL, WHAT YOU END UP FINDING IS AN INCREASE IN COMBO CLASSES. IN MANY CASES, WE DO HAVE SCHOOLS THAT WHERE YOU HAVE A TEACHER TEACHING ACROSS THREE GRADE SPANS IN ONE CLASS. UM, AND SO WE KNOW THAT THAT BECOMES CHALLENGING, AND THE VIABILITY OF THAT ACADEMIC PROGRAM IS PUT INTO QUESTION, UM, WHEN THAT CONDITION EXISTS. STAFFING STABILITY, WHICH IS MAINLY DRIVEN BY OUR NORMS IN THE DISTRICT, AND A NORM IS A, AN ALLOCATION OF A TEACHER ON PERSONNEL BASED OFF OF YOUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS. AND WHEN YOU HAVE GREAT FLUCTUATIONS IN ENROLLMENT AND DECLINES, IT'S HARD TO SUSTAIN THOSE OUT OF CLASSROOM SUPPORTS, C SIZE REDUCTION EFFORTS, AND MEET JUST THE, THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO, TO, TO SERVE STUDENTS. AND LASTLY, WHEN YOU HAVE SITES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER-ENROLLED, SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, IT SPREADS RESOURCES ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND SO WHAT YOU FIND IS, WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO STAFF MULTIPLE SCHOOLS WITH ONE OR TWO DAYS OF SERVICE RATHER THAN CONCENTRATING ONE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT INDIVIDUAL SUPPORTING A SCHOOL SITE, WHETHER IT'S A-P-S-W-P-S-A THAT PSW OR PSYCHIATRIC SOCIAL WORKER, UM, PUPIL SERVICES, ATTENDANCE COUNSELORS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SERVING MULTIPLE SITES BECAUSE THEY'RE SERVING STUDENTS. BUT WHEN THOSE STUDENTS ARE [00:10:01] AT SCHOOLS THAT ARE SMALLER, THEY'RE UNFORTUNATELY HAVING TO TRAVEL TO MULTIPLE SITES. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THIS EXPERIENCE EXISTS IN THE DISTRICT. UM, HERE ARE JUST EXAMPLES, AND I THINK I GAVE SOME OF THOSE ALREADY, JUST IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU COMPARE AT A HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND A HIGH SCHOOL THAT HAS AN ENROLLMENT OF 230 STUDENTS, MANY CASES CAN ONLY REALLY OFFER FOUR ELECTIVES WHERE A HIGH SCHOOL WITH A THOUSAND STUDENTS CAN OFFER 22 ELECTIVES, 17 AP COURSES BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ACTUALLY FILL A MASTER SCHEDULE THAT PROVIDES THAT EXPERIENCE FOR THAT STUDENT. AND SO WE ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON THE ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRONGER SCHOOLS INITIATIVE. THIS IS NOT SOLELY A FISCAL, UH, EXERCISE OR SOLUTION SET THAT IS A BYPRODUCT OF THIS WORK. BUT THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS ACTUALLY TO ACTUALLY BUILD STRONGER SCHOOLS THAT GET US TO HIGH SCHOOL B AND SUSTAIN HIGH SCHOOL B. OR IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ELEMENTARY, WHERE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF A HUNDRED STUDENTS VERSUS, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH 500 STUDENTS, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GRADE LEVEL SUPPORTS, WRAPAROUND SUPPORTS, UM, FROM A DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE OF THROUGH OUR WORK, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON IDENTIFYING WHERE THERE'S POTENTIAL ACADEMIC PROGRAM GAPS. AND SO THE LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS THAT WAS PERFORMED OVER THE LAST EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THERE HIGH QUALITY PROGRAMS THAT EXIST IN THE DISTRICT? WHERE DO THEY RESIDE? WHERE DO THEY NOT RESIDE? WHERE ARE THERE POTENTIAL PROGRAMMATIC GAPS WHERE YOU HAVE HIGH DEMAND FROM FAMILIES? UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOW LOOKING TO DEPLOY IN THE NEXT YEAR AS WE LOOK AT SERVING STUDENTS IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY. AND SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR FAMILIES VERY CLEARLY IS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE GREATER ARTS AND ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS IN THEIR SCHOOLS. UM, CTE ADVANCED LEARNING PATHWAYS. UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, EARLY AND MIDDLE COLLEGE PROGRAMS, INTERNATIONAL BACCALAUREATE, THEY EXIST IN A DISTRICT, BUT THEY EXIST IN POCKETS. AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OF PROGRAMS, IDENTIFY WHERE THERE'S GAPS, AND FILL THOSE GAPS WITH INVESTMENT? AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE WILL REITERATE THE STRONGER SCHOOLS INITIATIVE IS BOTH, YES, A FISCAL EXERCISE AND LOOKING AT UNDER UTILIZATION OF SPACE AND CAPACITY, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT INVESTING IN PROGRAMS. AND SO THERE IS AN IMPORTANT INVESTMENT COMPONENT AROUND THIS WORK. SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DESIGNING FOR THE FUTURE, IT'S ABOUT DESIGNING FOR STRONGER SCHOOLS. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOLS ARE LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO DECLINING ENROLLMENT TO SHA TO SHIFTING MIGRATION PATTERNS? UM, AND WE ARE VERY INTENT ON MAKING SURE THAT THE SCHOOLS OF TOMORROW ARE VERY FOCUSED ON A WELL USED LEARNING SPACE THAT IS, UH, RIGOROUS FROM AN ACADEMIC STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO RESPONSE TO THE DESIRES AND DEMAND OF FAMILIES IN THEIR BACKYARD, IN THEIR SCHOOL OF RESIDENTS. RATHER THAN SEEKING THAT OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE DISTRICT, WE KNOW THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO THE CONVERSATION AROUND SCHOOL CLOSURES, CONSOLIDATIONS, MERGERS, AND THAT'S GONNA PLAY OUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. WE MAY FIND OURSELVES HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO YOU TAKE THREE OR FOUR SCHOOLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON ONE CAMPUS AND CONSOLIDATING INTO ONE SCHOOL? HOW DO WE TAKE TWO CAMPUSES THAT ARE A MILE APART FROM EACH OTHER AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT POTENTIAL CLOSURE FOR ONE OF THEM, AND MERGING PROGRAM IDENTITY AND AT ONE SCHOOL SITE, THAT WILL THEN LEAD TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT A VACANT CAMPUS AND HOW DO WE REUTILIZE THAT CAMPUS FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. UM, AND THERE WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE PARTICULAR USES, DISTRICT USE. UM, SO REUSE FOR, UH, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT CENTERS FOR, UH, CTE HUBS, ARTS HUBS, UM, AN ACADEMIC, UH, PROGRAM THAT EXISTS AT THAT SITE AS A HUB. THE SECOND OPTION IS TO LOOK AT IT FOR COMMUNITY REUSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, EARLY EDUCATION HUBS AND CENTERS, UM, LOOKING AT GREEN SPACE AND COMMUNITY, UH, PARK REUSE, UH, AT THE SITE. AND ULTIMATELY, AFTER EXHAUSTING THOSE OPTIONS, THERE WILL BE A QUESTION ABOUT SURPLUS OR LEASING AND REUSING IT FOR, [00:15:01] FOR REVENUE IN THE DISTRICT. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AND EVALUATING AS PART OF A SECOND PHASE AS WE DEVELOP A BROADER PLAN FOR POTENTIAL REUSE OF VACANT, VACANT SITES IN THE DISTRICT. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT EASY. WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, RUSHING INTO THIS CONVERSATION WOULD NOT GO WELL. AND SO WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME TO REALLY BUILD THAT FOUNDATIONAL KNOWLEDGE, UM, BRING STAKEHOLDERS AND VOICES TOGETHER SO THAT WE ACTUALLY CO-OWN AND CO-DEFINED THE PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT. UM, THIS IS NOT A TOP DOWN DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED, DICTATED PROCESS. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU ALL OTHERS, UH, VOICES IN, IN THE WORK, UM, INFORM HOW WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, HOW DO WE CO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH STUDENTS AND PARENTS, UM, AND ACTUALLY DESIGN THOSE SESSIONS FOR HOW WE GET MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL, UH, UH, FEEDBACK FOR, FOR DEVELOPING THE CRITERIA THAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE, UH, THE LONGER TERM DECISIONS. UM, WE'RE DEVELOPING OPEN DATA PROFILES AND DASHBOARDS, SO ANYONE CAN GO ON AND LOOK AT WHAT'S THE ENROLLMENT AT EXISTING SITES CURRENTLY, WHAT IS THE FACILITY'S CONDITION AT ALL SITES? WHAT IS THE CURRENT ACADEMIC PROFILE? HOW MANY, UM, SPED STUDENTS, ENGLISH LEARNERS ARE SERVED AT ALL OF OUR SITES, SO THAT NOT ONLY WILL THE DISTRICT BE BUILDING METHODOLOGIES FOR POTENTIAL, UM, CLOSURE CRITERIA OR PROGRAM EXPANSION CRITERIA, BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHERS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THEIR OWN METHODOLOGIES AND PROPOSE THOSE TO THE DISTRICT AS WELL. WE KNOW THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THIS PROCESS AND BRING EVERYONE ALONG SO WE WILL HAVE CHECKPOINTS. I THINK THE NATURAL QUESTION THAT YOU ALL WILL ASK IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WILL WE GET AN UPDATE? WE WILL, AGENDA IS AN UPDATE HOPEFULLY IN THE, IN THE SPRINGTIME TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT, WHERE THERE'S ALIGNMENT TO THE OVERSIGHT THAT YOU ALL HAVE. UM, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A ONE AND DONE TODAY. IT'S ABOUT COMING BACK AND ALSO ENGAGING YOU IN THE PROCESS. UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE CONTINUOUS DIALOGUE GOES A LONG WAY IN BUILDING TRUST AND ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY. AS WE LOOK AT CRITERIA DEVELOPMENT AND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AROUND SCHOOL CLOSURES AND PROGRAM EXPANSION, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THROUGH AN EQUITY LENS. HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT STUDENTS ARE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, THOSE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, UH, AND, UH, SUPPORTS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS? HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT STUDENTS, UH, GAIN ACCESS TO BETTER SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS THROUGH, THROUGH THIS WORK? AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ADDRESS DISPARITIES THAT WILL RISE AS A RESULT OF, UM, CRITERIA OR CONSIDERATIONS? UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT NOT ALL SCHOOLS, NOT ALL COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE MADE THE SAME, ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE POCKETS IN THIS DISTRICT WHERE WE HAVE WAIT LISTS, WHERE SCHOOLS ARE GROWING, AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE IN OTHER REGIONS IN THE DISTRICT. AND THERE ARE EQUITY CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT WILL ARISE FROM THAT. AND SO WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH GUIDED BY THE EQUITY QUESTION AND ENSURING THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY ADDRESSED IN OUR WORK. WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE GUIDED BY ASSEMBLY BILL 1912, WHICH IN MOST CASES IS USED FOR DISTRICTS IN FISCAL CRISIS. IN OUR CASE, WE ARE NOT BY THE STATUTE DEFINED AS A DISTRICT IN FISCAL CRISIS, BUT IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT WE FOLLOW THE TENANTS OF AB 1912 AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. AND SO THESE ARE JUST THE MINIMUM FACTORS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AND METRICS, UM, THAT THE LAW CALLS FOR. BUT IT DOES NOT LIMIT OUR BOARD OF EDUCATION AND LEADERSHIP FROM ACT ACTING ON OTHER FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE DETERMINED, UH, USED TO DETERMINE, UM, UH, OUR DECISIONS AROUND SCHOOL CLOSURES. AND SO THERE ARE MAY BE OTHER CRITERIA THROUGH OUR FEEDBACK PROCESS THAT WE WILL BE INCLUDED TO REALLY KIND OF DEVELOP THAT HOLISTIC, RESPONSIVE, UH, FRAMEWORK AND, AND POLICY FOR, FOR SCHOOL CLOSURES. THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE IDEA OF SUPPORTING SCHOOLS THROUGH A MERGER AND CONSOLIDATION IS NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT. IT IS ALREADY BEING WORKED ON, ON HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY SET UP THE STRUCTURE SUPPORTS, UM, WHAT IT MEANS TO KIND OF DO THE WARM HANDOFF AND SUPPORT [00:20:01] EVERY STUDENT AND FAMILY AND THEIR DECISIONS. WHEN A SCHOOL IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR A POTENTIAL CLOSURE, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE TO INVEST IN MANY SITUATIONS TO, TO REALLY KIND OF FACILITATE, UM, A, A CONSOLIDATION. IT'S AN INVESTMENT OF TIME, AN INVESTMENT IN COMMUNITY AND INVESTMENT FROM A PROGRAMMATIC STANDPOINT. UM, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A, AN EMOTIONAL PROCESS THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THE IDENTITY OF A SCHOOL THAT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD, RIGHT? IT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET THAT MANY ARE CONNECTED TO. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO, AND WE WILL BE BUILDING THE SUPPORTS, UH, TO LEAD THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO WHAT'S NEXT? UM, AS I NOTED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'VE EXTENDED INTO OCTOBER REALLY KIND OF SETTING THE WHY CONTEXT, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER IN THE MID-NOVEMBER PERIOD TO KIND OF CO-DESIGN OUR INPUT MODEL AND OUR ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS FOR THE WINTER. UM, SO WE'RE BRINGING STUDENTS, PRINCIPALS, PARENTS, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, FOR A CO-DESIGN SUMMIT TO HELP US DEVELOP, UM, WHAT IT MEANS TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE STUDENTS. WHAT IS THE FRAMEWORK OF ENGAGEMENT? UM, AND IT'S GOING TO BE STUDENT CREATED, STUDENT LED, UM, IN THE SPRINGTIME WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING FORWARD, UM, A, A DRAFT AND ALSO FINAL, UM, SET OF CRITERIA THAT'S BEEN INFORMED BY THE WINTER INPUT SESSIONS AROUND CRITERIA DEVELOPMENT. AND ULTIMATELY, WE ANTICIPATE THAT IN THE LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, UH, THE BOARD WILL APPROVE A SET OF, UH, A POLICY, A SET OF CRITERIA THAT'S UTILIZED AS PART OF THAT POLICY FOR DETERMINING FUTURE CLOSURES, MERGERS, CONSOLIDATIONS, AND PROGRAM EXPANSIONS IN THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS, UM, A SET OF SCHOOLS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION AROUND CLOSURES. UM, AND THAT CAN COME IN DIFFERENT FORMS, DIFFERENT PHASES. WE KNOW IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS, UM, TO EXECUTE ON FORMAL CLOSURES IN THE DISTRICT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM, YOU KNOW, DISTRICTS ACROSS THE NATION DISTRICTS THAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. UM, I SAID, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO OVERNIGHT AND YOU DON'T DO IN ONE YEAR. UM, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT YOU START BUILDING TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY TO, TO EVEN JUST DEVELOP THAT, THAT I WOULD SAY NORMALCY OF REVISITING AND HAVING THE CONVERSATION AROUND SCHOOL VIABILITY AND WHAT IT MEANS TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE QUALITY PROGRAMS TO OUR STUDENTS. THESE ARE UPCOMING, UM, ONGOING Y SESSIONS THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEY LAUNCH NEXT WEEK, ANOTHER ROUND WITH OUR REGION LEADERSHIP. UM, MOST ARE GOING TO BE, UM, ON WEBINARS. WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN PARTICIPATION ONLINE VERSUS IN PERSON. UM, WE HAD ON AVERAGE ABOUT 150 TO 300 PARTICIPANTS IN EACH OF, OF OUR WEBINARS, UM, THAT THE REGIONS HELD. UM, AND SO WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE THAT MODEL AND ALSO STILL PROVIDE SOME IN-PERSON SESSIONS. SO KEY TAKEAWAYS, 'CAUSE I, I THINK THE, NOW LIKE I SAID, NATURAL LINE OF INQUIRY IS LIKE, SO WHAT CRITERIA ARE YOU LOOKING AT? WHAT ARE THE, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA CLOSE? YOU KNOW, IN THE IMMEDIATE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ESTABLISHED CRITERIA, UM, THAT IS PART OF THIS PROCESS. AND I THINK IF WE CAME TODAY WITH CRITERIA, IT COMPLETELY UNDERMINE OUR GENUINE APPROACH TO THE ENGAGEMENT WORK THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO. UM, ANOTHER THING IS THERE WILL BE PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES. UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IN 27, 28, THERE ARE SCHOOLS TODAY THAT NEED THAT INFUSION OF SUPPORT AND PROGRAM SHIFT IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE ENROLLMENT CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE. UM, WE WILL ALSO BE HOLDING OFF ON ANY IMMEDIATE CLOSURES FOR THE 27 28 YEAR. UM, HERE WE'RE, WE'RE LIKE, I THINK THERE WAS A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT CLOSING SCHOOLS IN 27 28. WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT OR CONSIDERING ANY CLOSURES UNTIL THE 28 29 YEAR, WHICH MEANS THE BOARD WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY ACT ON, UH, AUTHORIZING LEADERSHIP ADMINISTRATION TO BEGIN A CLOSURE PROCESS THIS COMING YEAR FOR IT TO BE EFFECTUATED IN THE 28, 29 YEAR. UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SCHOOLS CURRENTLY THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT LOW ENROLLMENT WHERE THERE'S A QUESTION OF VIABILITY FOR THE COMING YEAR. WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE SUPPORT THAT, THAT SCHOOL, AT LEAST FOR ONE MORE YEAR, SO THAT THEY, UM, ARE, ARE OPEN IN 27, 28, BUT MAYBE WITH A MODIFIED, UH, GRADE LEVEL, GRADE SPAN OR, UM, SET OF RESOURCES, UM, THAT WILL STILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THOSE STUDENTS. AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO, TO STAY [00:25:01] INFORMED. WE HAVE OUR LSD.ORG STRONGER SCHOOLS TOGETHER WEBSITE. UM, WE HAVE ALL OUR INFORMATION, WHAT WE'RE TRACKING AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS WORK. AND SO INVITE YOU TO, TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHERS. UM, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE SHARES THEIR IDEAS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU ALL YOUR COLLEAGUES ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS. UM, TELL US WHAT WORKS, WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IS WORKING IN THE DISTRICT AND TELL US WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. HOW, HOW DO WE SHIFT IN TERMS OF MEETING DEMAND DESIRES OF OUR, OUR FAMILY STUDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRONGER SCHOOLS TOGETHER WORK, YOU ALL ARE PART OF THIS WORK AND, AND VERY MUCH INVITE YOU TO BE PART OF IT. UM, BUT THANK YOU. AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. I I WAY TO BE ABLE TO SEGUE BACK IN WITHOUT YOUR VISUALS. AND MAN, YOU WERE FLAWLESS . REALLY GOOD. UM, REAL QUICKLY BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS, I HOPE YOU HAVE ABOUT FOUR MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS. YEP. UH, I THINK YOU STARTED TO ANSWER IT AND IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR VISUAL PACKAGE. YOU'RE COMING BACK IN THE SPRING TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. ARE YOU GONNA INCLUDE THE US THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL? I THINK, UH, OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE AN INPUT SESSION WITH YOU ALL. OKAY. UM, AND SO THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS. UM, AND I THINK ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK TO YOU THE CRITERIA THAT IS BEING SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE INFORMING BROADER COMMUNITY, THAT YOU ALL ARE ALSO RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. OKAY. LET ME, SO I DON'T MANIPULATE OR, OR, UH, I DON'T OVERDO THIS. LET'S HEAR FROM OTHERS. UH, STARTING FROM THE END, WE'LL START WITH MR. PANSKY. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT MICHAEL JUST ASKED, I'M WONDERING, IN NOVEMBER, ACCORDING TO YOUR, UH, WHAT'S NEXT, UH, SLIDE, UH, IT SAYS CO-DESIGN SESSION WITH INTERNAL EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP AGENDA PROTOCOLS FOR WINTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS THAT WILL INFORM CRITERIA FOR SCHOOL MERGER CONSOLIDATION AND CLOSURE. AS YOU ARE BRINGING THOSE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER, I'M WONDERING, CAN SOMEBODY FROM OUR COMMITTEE, UH, ACTUALLY BE ONE OF THE FOLKS CONSIDERED TO HELPING IN THAT DESIGN PROCESS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A VOICE THERE? UM, I THINK YOU GOT MY COMMITMENT ON THAT END. YEAH. YEAH. SO, NO, BUT I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERED THERE. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REQUESTS, OBVIOUSLY, AND WILL BE MORE REQUESTS FOR, UH, FUTURE FUNDING PROJECTS FOR SCHOOLS. HOW ARE YOU DECIDING WHAT IS BROUGHT TO US AT THIS STAGE, KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING ON? SHOULD THERE NOT BE A HOLD ON THOSE PROJECTS UNTIL THERE'S A RESULTS OF THIS? YEAH, I THINK AS WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE QUEUE, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN FORECASTED AND SCOPED TO THE FIVE YEAR ENROLLMENT TREND UTILIZATION TRENDS. AND IN MANY CASES, THEY'RE SCOPED ALREADY TO IN MANY, BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT DECLINING ENROLLMENT AT A PARTICULAR SITE. AND SO, YES, WE ARE LOOKING AND, AND INTEGRATING THE STRONGER SCHOOLS WORK, UM, AND THAT INVOLVES FACILITIES BEING PART OF OUR WORKING GROUP AND OUR STEERING COMMITTEE. SO THEY'RE INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE, UH, OF THE COIN AS PART OF THAT PROCESS. BUT WHAT YOU ALL WILL SEE IN TERMS OF PROJECTS IS LIKE, WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH SOMEWHAT OF A VALIDATION PROCESS THERE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO ENROLLMENT, UM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ALL SAW 49TH STREET ELEMENTARY THERE. YOU'RE GOING FROM 43 CLASSROOMS TO 34 CLASSROOMS AS PART OF THE, THE SCOPE DESIGN, RIGHT? UM, AND YOU STILL HAVE A, A PRETTY HEALTHY ENROLLMENT WHEN COMPARED TO MANY OF THE OTHER, OTHER SITES IN THE DISTRICT. AND SO, SO KNOW THAT THERE IS CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE BRINGING THESE PROJECTS FORWARD TO YOU ALL. YEAH, THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, UH, IN THE THREE STEP PROCESS OF HOW TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH A SCHOOL LOCATION, IF I, WHAT I DID NOT HEAR WAS THE SALE OF PROPERTY, UH, AS A FOURTH OPTION. YEAH, THAT IS THE SURPLUS THAT I SAID, SURPLUS OF POTENTIALLY LEASING. SO SURPLUS, WE WOULD USUALLY USE A SURPLUS PROPERTY ACT, WHICH IS THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR A DISTRICT TO SURPLUS PROPERTY AND SELL. THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS THERE IN THAT, UM, THE CURRENT STATUTE HAS FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO, UH, CHARTER, UH, SECOND, ANY REVENUE GENERATED FROM SURPLUS IN THAT PROPERTY, UM, IS LIMITED TO CAPITAL INVESTMENT. SO IF WE CAN GET THOSE DOLLARS BACK, IT HAS TO BE REINVESTED INTO CAPITAL PROGRAMS. UM, FROM A DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE, WE KIND OF HAVE A DESIRE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE LONGER TERM USE OR LEASING AND REVENUE MODEL THAT [00:30:01] ACTUALLY SOLVES FOR SOME OF OUR GENERAL FUND CHALLENGES, . UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT LEGISLATIVELY, UM, BUT WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF. UM, THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CAMPBELL, THEN I'LL, I'LL COME BACK. I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON YOUR AVAILABILITY. SO JUST QUICKLY, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKED TO, TO MAKE AN ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION ON, UH, CUMULATIVELY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN, IN CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AT, AT FACILITIES ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND, AND SO I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION IN THE PROCESS OF DISTRICT'S EMBARKING IN IS RESPONSIVE TO OUR, OUR REQUEST FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE STRATEGIC PROCESS IS TO, TO MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS, WHICH WE ALL RECOGNIZE ARE ULTIMATELY THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICY MAKERS WHO ARE ELECTED TO THE BOARD OF ED. BUT THAT BEING SAID, LIKE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS AND SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS ARE, ARE LIKELY GOING TO INVOLVE CONSOLIDATING, CHANGING THE USE OF, OR, OR REMOVING FROM CLASSROOM SERVICE, CERTAIN SCHOOL FACILITIES. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT ONE THAT YOU CAN ANSWER IMMEDIATELY, IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THOSE IMPENDING CHANGES AS WE CONSIDER REQUEST TO SPEND BOND DOLLARS, KNOWING THAT MANY OF THESE PROJECTS AREN'T ACTUALLY GOING TO BREAK GROUND FOR 12, 18, 24, 36 MONTHS? UM, AND THAT POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE SITES THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA WIND UP ON THIS LIST. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE YET. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA SAY LIKE, LIKE, AND THIS IS A STRATEGIC QUESTION AGAIN FOR THE DISTRICT. DO WE NEED TO PUMP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT ON THE CAPITAL SPENDING PROGRAM IN GENERAL UNTIL WE HAVE MORE CLARITY ON THIS? SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE LIMITED BOND DOLLARS WE HAVE ARE GOING TO THE RIGHT PLACE? I, I, I WILL SAY THIS, I, I THINK THE STAFF IS VERY MINDFUL OF THE INTERPLAY AND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD HAVE BEEN KIND OF VALIDATED THROUGH THAT LENS. UM, I THINK MOVING FORWARD AS DECISIONS ARE MADE IS IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SEP TO THE STRATEGIC EXECUTION PLAN. YOU WILL SEE THOSE CHANGES AS DECISIONS ARE MADE. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO DO IT NOW, BUT I ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, COME LATE SPRING AS WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL SCHOOLS, UM, THAT, THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME MODIFICATIONS ON, ON, UH, WHETHER IT'S IT OR FACILITIES PLANNING. UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE'S A NEED FOR A PAUSE. WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'LL BE FUTURE CHANGES TO PLANNING. UM, I, I CAN SAY THAT FOR, FOR IT PROJECTS, WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, NETWORK IMPROVEMENT WORK THAT HAS COME THROUGH THROUGH YOU, YOU ALL OVERSIGHT AND THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN ENROLLMENT AS AN INDICATOR ON WHETHER WE SHOULD BE MAKING AN INVESTMENT THERE. BUT THERE ARE SITES THAT ARE SERVING A PURPOSE AND SERVING A COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A LOW ENROLLMENT, BUT THEY NEED THAT SAFETY UPGRADE OR THEY NEED THAT WIRELESS UPGRADE. UM, AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AS WE, WE LOOK AT EACH PROJECT AND, AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, PROBABLY FOR THE BOARD OF ED THAN US, BUT, BUT CRITICAL FOR US AS WELL IS JUST BEING ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THOSE CATEGORIES OF USE THAT ARE NICE TO HAVE VERSUS THOSE CATEGORIES OF USE THAT ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED AND, AND MUST HAVE IN ORDER TO DELIVER ON OUR CORE MISSION OF PROVIDING CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION TO YOUNG PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THAT. A COUPLE OTHERS HERE, I'LL, I'LL COME BACK. MR. UH, BRENDAN, UH, MS. PERONE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. MY QUESTIONS ARE VERY GENERAL. UH, THE FIRST IS, AS PART OF THE, UM, IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND, AND, UM, EXCHANGE OF IDEAS, YOU'RE GONNA BE INCLUDING US AS YOU MENTIONED, BUT WILL YOU ALSO BE INCLUDING THE THREE PARENT GROUPS? UH, AS PART OF THE DISTRICT? YES. BE THE DLAC V THE DLAC PACK. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY PART OF THE CO-DESIGN INVITATION AND, AND EXCELLENT. AND THEN HOW IS THIS PROCESS GOING TO AFFECT THE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS THAT I KNOW THE DISTRICT IS IN DISCUSSIONS NOW OR EXPECTING FROM THE SCHOOL SITES, THE, THEIR BUDGET PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT YEAR? UH, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE? WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ANY IMPACTS TO BUDGET DEVELOPMENT FOR THE 27 28 YEAR, BECAUSE THERE ARE, WE'RE HOLDING OFF ON ANY CLOSURES. UM, BUT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AS WE DO ACT ON POTENTIAL WAVES OF CLOSURES, THAT THERE, UM, THERE WILL BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SULLIVAN. I, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF RECATEGORIZE, IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE ANSWER THAT A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE GOT TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE SHOULD BE PUTTING PROJECTS ON HOLD. WAS IS SORT OF A TRUST US, WE KNOW WHICH SITES ARE NOT GONNA BE CLOSED. WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE THAT AS ACCURATE? 'CAUSE ON ONE HAND YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE DON'T KNOW. YEAH. AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, BUT WAIT A SECOND, WE'RE STILL GONNA PUT THESE PROJECTS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND WE SORT [00:35:01] OF KNOW THESE. IS THAT ACCURATE? IT, IT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PROCESS FOR HOW WE SCOPE OUT PROJECTS IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY ACCOUNTING FOR DECLINING ENROLLMENT AND SCOPING OUT PROJECTS FOR WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. SO SPACE UTILIZATION IS ALREADY MODIFIED, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SEAT CAPACITY AT THE SCHOOL SITE, AND THAT'S MODIFIED AS PART OF THAT, THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE SEEING. AND SO MUCH OF THE CRITERIA AND THE CONSIDERATIONS IN UNDER AB 1912 ARE ALREADY BEING UTILIZED FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT SEQUENCE. AND SO WHEN IT'S NOT A TRUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER SITES THAT AREN'T PART OF A PRO, UH, CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS FOR. AND THAT'S WHAT STRONGER SCHOOLS IS REALLY KIND OF DEVELOPING. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MCFARLAND, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICKLY? OKAY. I WAS GONNA ASK YOU TO HOLD FOR MS. TON MUELLER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE UPDATE. THIS WILL AFFECT STAFFING. HOW ARE THE VARIOUS UNIONS THAT WILL FEEL THE REDUCTION IN STAFF THAT WILL FEEL IT BE INCLUDED IN THE DECISION PROCESS? AND I KNOW THAT ALL CONTRACTS HAVE REDUCTION IN STAFF IN THEIR CONTRACTS WITH VERY SPECIFIC PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING, UH, OUR LABOR PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS, UM, VERY EARLY ON IN THE CONVERSATIONS. UM, AND OUR INTENT IS TO CONTINUE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE STAFFING IMPACTS. UM, WE HAVE EXAMPLES. YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY MERGED, YOU KNOW, SFIM WITH SAN FERNANDO MIDDLE SCHOOL, CONSOLIDATED TWO SCHOOLS. A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT, HOW STAFF ARE TREATED IN A PILOT SCHOOL VERSUS A NON-PILOT SCHOOL. HOW DO YOU, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION? UM, SAME THING AT SOTO, UH, THE SOTO, MAYO AND HILDA, THE HILDA SOLI AND, UH, BOYLE HEIGHTS STEM CONSOLIDATION. UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES WHERE WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR LABOR PARTNERS TO GET TO SOLUTIONS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THE SITE CAMPUS THAT KIND OF HONORS, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT IT DOES IS ACTUALLY COALESCES RESOURCES. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S THE BENEFIT IN THIS WORK, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SPREADING, YOU KNOW, STAFF ACROSS MULTIPLE CAMPUSES OR NOT HAVING ENOUGH F UH, ENROLLMENT TO ACTUALLY GENERATE A PSW OR, UH, ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, THAT YOU NOW ACTUALLY GET TO THOSE NUMBERS AND YOU CAN GENERATE THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. AND SO THAT, THAT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION. OKAY. THANKS. GETTING DOWN TO THE LAST COUPLE, MS. LATHE, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUICK ADDITION STATEMENT ON THE CHANGING REALITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, ON YOUR DECLINING ENROLLMENT. I FEEL THAT A MISSING ASPECT OF DECLINING ENROLLMENT IS PARENT DISCONTENT WITH THE WAY L-A-U-S-D HANDLES, UH, BUDGET TRANSPARENCY, THE BULLYING EPIDEMIC, AS EVIDENCED BY THE RECENT INCIDENT AT BENJAMIN FRANKLIN HIGH SCHOOL. AND I THINK PARENTS JUST WANT, UM, BETTER FOR THEIR KIDS. AND AS A PARENT REPRESENTATIVE, WE HAVE FOUGHT FOR BETTER THROUGH L-A-U-S-D, AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS MET WITH, UH, RECIPROCAL, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR BETTER, UH, TREATMENT FOR BULLYING, ESPECIALLY IN OUR SCHOOLS. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE, SO I WANTED TO SAY THAT IT WAS JUST LOOKED LIKE IT JUST MISSING COMPONENT IN THE DECLINING ENROLLMENT ISSUE. UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS TWO, ONE, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WEBINARS, WILL YOU BE PROVIDING AN OPEN CHAT FORUM WHERE PARENTS CAN HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION OR IS IT GONNA BE LIMITED TO Q AND A AND ONLY BEING SPEAKING TO THE HOSTS? BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPEN, UH, FORUM THAT'S PUBLIC, PARENTS CAN COME IN AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT WHEN IT'S ON A WEBINAR FORUM, IT'S VERY LIMITED. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING BOTH. SO THERE'S A Q AND A SECTION AND IN THE CHAT FUNCTION, THEY'VE, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTION THERE, AND THEN STAFF WILL POPULATE THAT SAME QUESTION IN THE Q AND A SO THAT IT'S ANSWERED BY STAFF. BUT WE'VE BEEN, BEEN USING BOTH, UH, APPROACHES. I THINK IT LIMITS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHAT FUNCTION AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO THE HOSTS AND MEMBER HOSTS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO THE PARENTS AT LARGE. WE CAN'T SEE ALL THE CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPEN FORUM CONVERSATION. GOT IT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN OF WHEN YOU WILL SHARE THE LIST OF SCHOOLS BEING CONSIDERED FOR CLOSURE? BECAUSE I THINK AS A PARENT, IF IT'S, IF OUR SCHOOL'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED FOR CLOSURE, WE WANT AT LEAST ADVANCED NOTICE SO THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A SCHOOL COMMUNITY TO OFFSET OR HELP BENEFIT OUR SCHOOL IN A BETTER WAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT RATHER THAN GETTING IT AT THE 11TH HOUR. IF YOU, IF YOU GET, IF, IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, YOU'LL SEE KIND [00:40:01] OF THE SEQUENCE OF STEPS. WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A PRELIMINARY, UH, LIST IN THE JUNE PERIOD WITH NOTICE OF AT LEAST A YEAR. MEANING THAT AT THAT TIME, IF THERE ARE A SET OF SCHOOLS THAT WE DECIDE TO ACT ON FOR THE 28 29, THEY AT LEAST HAVE, UH, 15 MONTHS OF NOTICE. AND WE WILL START THE PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT AT THE LOCAL SITE, UM, BUT BEST PRACTICES 15 TO 12 TO 18 MONTHS. UM, SO THAT THERE IS, UH, A PROCESS OF SUPPORT, UH, CHOICE FOR BY FAMILIES, UM, TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THEIR CHILD WILL BE NEXT YEAR AND GIVING THEM THE SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO DO THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. I I'M GONNA LET YOU GO, BUT I JUST ONE LAST, UH, PARTING, UH, THOUGHT FROM MYSELF. I, I KNOW THAT YOU, AND, AND I THINK RIFFING A LITTLE BIT OFF OF YOUR, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE CONCERN. I, I SENSE THAT THIS CURRENT NEWER ADMINISTRATION IS, HAS GOT BIGGER EARS AND IS LISTENING MORE. UM, I FEEL IT. SO I, I PUT A LOT OF, UH, FAITH IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE TO OPERATE WHETHER THEY'RE CONSPIRACY AND OTHER PERCEPTIONS TO BE, I I I, I'VE HAD THIS TWO SHORT OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH SUPERINTENDENT SHA AND I FEEL THE SINCERITY. SO I HOPE THAT THAT PART IS, IS, IS MITIGATED TO SOME DEGREE. UM, I, THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BIG FRUIT BEEN HANDLED BY THE OTHERS HERE. YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT, THAT KIND OF TOUCHES WITH ME AS SOMEONE WHO WAS A, A FORMER ADMINISTRATOR, A CHAIR OF A PROGRAM THAT RECEIVED STUDENTS FROM L-A-U-S-D THROUGH THE L-A-C-C-D UH, PROGRAM. AND I WAS AT EAST, UM, I WAS ALWAYS CONCERNED, LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THESE POCKET PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS DRAWING FROM THESE VERY LIMITED PROGRAMS AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU SPREADING THE BRUSH ACROSS. I KNOW THE DIFFICULTY GOES WITH STAFFING, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE RIGHT TEACHERS TO THE RIGHT SCHOOLS. NOW YOU HAVE, IF YOU OPEN BACK UP TO, YOU KNOW, THESE BROADER CTE PROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO DO THAT. BUT I DO LIKE HEARING THAT AS A PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE, THERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING THE PROBLEM, I'M SENSING, UH, FROM NOT JUST THE ISSUE OF THE ENROLLMENT, BUT NOW HOW DO WE, UH, I THINK GOES TO YOUR POINTS TOO. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE RETAIN OR BRING STUDENTS BACK AND THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY, UH, POWERFUL. THE LAST THING I WANNA SAY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HEAR COMMENTS FROM US. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT UP TODAY. THE, THE ENROLLMENT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, METHODOLOGIES, THE CONTRAST BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE STATE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE JUST TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. UH, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN HAVE KIDS IN THE LA USD, SO I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IS WE FEEL IS RIGHT IN, IN REPRESENTING THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THIS. SO I THINK YOU KNOW THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LISTENING EAR HERE. UM, LOTS OF FOLLOW UP ON, UM, I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING IT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO IS THERE, THERE IS A, A REALITY IN THAT DECLINING ENROLLMENT IS JUST A FACTOR OF PEOPLE MAKING, HAVING LESS KIDS. UM, OUR GOAL IS TO STEM THAT, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU RETAIN, I THINK IT WHAT YOU SPOKE TO ABOUT PARENT CHOICES IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ABOUT 20% OF STUDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE LA REGION THAT CHOOSE ANOTHER OPTION. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, RIGHT? AND SO, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR RIGOROUS, ENRICHING, VIBRANT PROGRAMS AND IT'S ON US TO, TO DELIVER ON THAT. AND SO I SAID, LET'S DO IT TOGETHER. I INVITE YOU TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, UM, AND THE WORK WILL CONTINUE. AND SO WE'LL BE UPDATING YOU AS WE WE MOVE FORWARD AND PROGRESS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. AND LOOK, WE ARE ENGAGED. IF YOU NEED US, YOU WANNA COME BACK, YOU'RE ALWAYS INVITED. NUMBER TWO, IF YOU WANT US TO COME TO A BOARD MEETING, I'M GOING TO CAUTION MY OWN EXPERIENCE. I HOPE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT, UH, IF YOU EVER NEED US, THAT BOARD, YOU DID A GREAT JOB. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. I DON'T KNOW, I HAD TO GET A DIG. I DON'T KNOW. I, I APOLOGIZE. BUT ANYWAY, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU TAKE CARE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. RIGHT? I I THINK WE'VE HANDLED IT. YOU GOT IT GUYS. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, WITH THAT, LET ME COME BACK. UM, WE DO HAVE TWO ONLINE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE NOW. SO I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE, UH, ALI, UH, LEWIS. UM, I'LL GO, THERE'S TWO OF YOU. I'LL START WITH YOU. ALLY LEWIS, YOU HAVE JOINED. CAN YOU MAKE YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE? THAT IS THAT YOU ARE, UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER ADULTS PRESENT IN THE ROOM THAT YOU'RE ATTENDING FROM. ARE YOU HERE? ALLY? UNACCEPTABLE. SPEAKING FROM THE CLOUDS. I CAN'T HEAR. I CAN'T SEE YOU, . [00:45:01] WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. ALLIE. ALSO, UH, TODAY IS, IS ASHA LANG. SHE'S THE ALTERNATE FOR DR. ROLLS. SHE'S ALSO JOINING US REMOTELY. UH, MS. LANG, CAN YOU APPEAR ON THE ZOOM SCREEN AND STATE WHETHER THERE ARE ANY OTHER ADULTS PRESENT IN THE ROOM THAT YOU'RE ATTENDING FROM? HI. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THERE ARE NO OTHER ADULTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALLIE, ONE MORE TIME WITH YOU. WELL, IF, IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HER, UM, SITUATION, WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. OKAY. WITH THAT, UH, I DO HAVE SOME. NOW GO BACK TO OUR NORMAL AGENDA. WE'RE NOT DOING THE LONG READ, MR. CAMPBELL'S NOT GONNA DO HIS PIECE. WE'RE GONNA KIND OF KEEP MOVING HERE, I THINK. UM, SO ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, WE'D LIKE TO INVITE MEMBERS TO ATTEND SOME RIBBON CUTTING AND GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONIES THIS NOVEMBER MCBRIDE SPECIAL EDUCATION CTC AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT. AND SO RIBBON CUTTING ON NOVEMBER 3RD AT 9:00 AM 92ND STREET ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COMPREHENSIVE MODERNIZATION PROJECT RIBBON CUTTING ON NOVEMBER 12TH AT 9:30 AM ASCOT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COMPREHENSIVE MODERNIZATION PROJECT RIBBON CUTTING ON NOVEMBER 13TH AT 9:00 AM MARQUEZ CHARTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUS RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT GROUNDBREAKING ON NOVEMBER 16TH AT 9:00 AM AND LASTLY, 32ND STREET EARLY EDUCATION CENTER, OUTDOOR CLASSROOM AND CAMPUS UPGRADE PROJECT RIBBON CUTTING ON NOVEMBER 19TH AT 10:30 AM PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR BOC STAFF IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING. AND SECOND, I'D LIKE TO, UM, SPEAK OF EVENTS. UH, I'D LIKE TO THANK EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBER MR. MCFARLAND FOR ATTENDING THE RIBBON CUTTING AT SAN FERNANDO EARLY EDUCATION CENTER ON OCTOBER 15TH. MR. MCFARLAND, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE? UH, IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO ATTEND THE RIBBON CUTTING, UM, AT SAN FERNANDO. UM, BEING THERE AND SEEING THE AMAZING OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT FOR THE STUDENTS, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE. UM, AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY SO EXCITED, UH, TO HAVE THIS GREAT, UH, OUTDOOR CLASSROOM. WELL, THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE BOARD AND OF COURSE YOUR YOUR OWN PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO DOING THAT AND APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. AND THANKS FOR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK. UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY MS. LEWIS AGAIN. MS. LEWIS, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? HI, GOOD MORNING. HEY, THERE YOU ARE. CAN YOU MAKE YOUR STATEMENT THAT, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER ADULTS IN THE ROOM WITH YOU? GOOD MORNING. THERE ARE NO OTHER ADULTS IN THE ROOM WITH ME. OKAY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU. NICE TO SEE YOU. OKAY, CONTINUING ON, UH, WE HAVE NOW ITEM NUMBER TWO IS [2. Public Comment] PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL BE PROVIDED SIX MINUTES TOTAL. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE BOARDROOM THIS MORNING WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE? MS. IDLE? YES, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE SPEAKER, MR. DAVID TIKKI. WELCOME MR. AND HE WILL BE GIVING US COMMENTS ON VARIOUS ITEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE, UH, LAST MEETING, BUT, UH, PEARL'S BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE ME 12 MINUTES BECAUSE I MISSED LAST TIME. SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. OH, OH, SO, SO, OKAY, . UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING, UH, PEDRO, UH, ON THE MOU, OKAY, YOU HAD THE MAN ONE OF TWO WHO HAS BEEN BLOCKING THE MOU. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE EARS ARE UPSTAIRS, BUT YOU HAVE NO MOU NUMBER TWO, THANK YOU FOR THE CELEBRATIONS OF THE VARIOUS SITES. BUT YOU SHAKE YOUR HEAD, MR. HAMNER, WHILE THAT SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET HAS SAT EMPTY FRONT PAGE OF THE LA TIMES UNDER THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AN EMPTY SCHOOL CLOSED IS COSTING $4 MILLION PLUS. AS THEY TALK ABOUT BUILDING BACK STRONGER SCHOOLS, YOU'LL LOOK IN THEIR BUDGET. 10 SCHOOLS ONLY THEORETICALLY YIELDS $30 MILLION. OKAY? THE BUDGET CRISIS IS $3 BILLION. IT'S A DISTRACTION. OKAY? IT SHOULD BE A FOCUS ON WHAT YOU SAID. BRINGING BACK STUDENTS. THERE ARE 120,000 KIDS IN INDEPENDENT CHARTERS, 120,000 KIDS. THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS ONLINE INSIDE THE LA JURISDICTION THAT ARE GOING TO ONLINE SCHOOLS. THERE ARE GREAT PLACES IN THIS DISTRICT, WONDERFUL PLACES. THERE SHOULD BE A MARKETING CAMPAIGN OF SAY, NOT JUST PUTTING THINGS ON BUS BENCHES AND ON BUSES, BUT REALLY SHINING. AND THEN BE CAREFUL. AS YOU LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS OF 5, 6, 7, 800 KIDS, THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REDISTRIBUTING THOSE OFTEN [00:50:01] SCHOOLS THAT ARE HAVING CHALLENGES. BUT YOU TAKE A SCHOOL LIKE ANNANDALE IN THE NORTHEAST, ANNANDALE SITS NEXT TO TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE FILLED TO THE GILLS. THERE'S NO EARLY ED CENTER. THEY'RE BUILDING A PIPELINE. YOU'RE BUILDING EARLY ED CENTERS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS MODERNIZATION. AND THEY'RE NOT BRINGING TO YOU A COMBINED VISION OF AGE THREE TO GRADE THREE. SO YOU'RE BUILDING TWO ADMINISTRATORS, WHICH MIGHT BE GOOD IF THEY'RE COHERENT IN THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL PATTERNS, NOT YOUR JOB. YOURS IS TO FOLLOW THE MONEY AND MAKE SURE IT'S BEING SPENT CORRECTLY. HAMILTON HIGH SCHOOL IS NOW THE MOST EXPENSIVE MODERNIZATION OF THE HISTORY UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION OF $600 MILLION, $600 MILLION FAR BEHIND. YOU HAVE SCHOOLS LIKE LINCOLN AND TAFT AND OTHERS UNDER PINNER CONSTRUCTION INVITE PINNER IN HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON. THESE SCHOOLS ARE INCREASING IN TERMS OF THEIR COSTS AND THEIR DELAYS. SMALL SCHOOLS IS WHAT BUILT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OKAY? MULTIPLE GRADES. NOW, I AGREE THERE ARE CHALLENGES. YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD TRAINING OF TEACHERS TO DO A THIRD, FOURTH, AND FIFTH GRADE TOGETHER. BUT IMMIGRANT KIDS, MARIA OTT, WHO WAS OUR HEAD OF INSTRUCTION, SAID, UNGRADED PRIMARY FOR IMMIGRANT KIDS IS ONE OF THE SMARTEST THINGS YOU CAN DO. 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME KIDS WHO COME IN KINDERGARTEN WHO NEED THAT EXTRA YEAR, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO SHAME THEM BY HOLDING THEM BACK. BUT IF YOU'RE IN A ROOM WITH K ONE TWO, THE KIDS THAT EARN ONE THAT CAN DO SECOND GRADE WORK CAN DO THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SUPPORT TO THE TEACHERS IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND PROBABLY CONTRACTUAL BENEFITS FOR IT. SO I INVITE YOU TO BRING SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS IN THIS, THIS STATE WILL GROW AGAIN, OKAY? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF 10 MILLION BRAZILIANS WILL BE FOLLOWING THEIR LEADER TO CALIFORNIA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT CAL, NONE OF YOU ARE MOVING TO FLORIDA AND TEXAS. OKAY? THIS IS A GREAT STATE. IT WILL GROW AGAIN. AND BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU DOWNSIZE CAMPUSES LIKE MARK HAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA GO CELEBRATE, AND YOU STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT $800 MILLION OF BOND MONEY WAS SHIFTED FROM NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE PALISADES IS BEING PAID BACK BY INSURANCE OR FEMA GET THE EXACT NUMBERS SELLING LAND. OKAY? THEY BROUGHT IN A COMPANY CALLED ALVAREZ AND MARSAL AND THE BOARD OF ED STOPPED IT. THAT COMPANY IS THE GRIM REAPER OF PUBLIC SECTOR. THEY DESTROYED ST. LOUIS SCHOOLS. THEY DESTROYED NEW ORLEANS. YOU GOTTA KEEP A VIGILANCE ON THE NUMBERS. THE CAMPAIGN FOR THESE SCHOOLS THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT IS BEING RUN BY THE HEAD OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION. THAT TELLS YOU A LOT, NOT BY THE HEAD OF THE INSTRUCTION DIVISION. YOU DIDN'T EVEN GET THE HEAD OF INSTRUCTION HERE. YOU GOT THE BUSINESS SIDE. ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE DRIVEN BY INSTRUCTION AND BY LEARNING, THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ARE ONLINE. IT WAS A BRILLIANT QUESTION BY A PARENT REP. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY DIALOGUE. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY ENVISIONING. WE HAVE MORE URBAN PLANNING SCHOOLS IN THIS BASIN THAN ONE WEEK OF TIME COULD COME UP WITH MORE INSIGHTFUL STUFF THAN WE'RE SEEING. HOUSING IS NOT AFFORDABLE. THEY'RE CALLING IT AFFORDABLE. BUT TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT REALLY IS, AND IS IT GENERATING MONEY? IT'S GENERATING MONEY TO THE DEVELOPERS, BUT VERY LITTLE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. IT'S NOT PUTTING HOUSING IN THAT REQUIRES THERE TO BE STUDENTS THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT HOUSING FOR ON DISTRICT PROPERTY. YOUR QUESTIONS WERE ALL VERY GOOD. TRUNCATED. LET ME JUST SAY THE IT ISSUE. YOU ARE GETTING AN EXAMPLE OF A, UH, UH, OG OIG REVIEW, BUT YOU'RE SEEING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF BOND MONEY GOING INTO IT. WHAT IS THE, YOU NEED THE OUTSIDE EXPERTISE. ASK WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT PROJECT? HOW DID IT GO UNMANAGED? I'M GLAD THEY FOUND IT AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE ALSO GONNA BRING YOU THE FRANKLIN HIGH EXAMPLE. BUT BRING THAT VENDOR IN. IF THAT VENDOR WAS A PROBLEM, ASK THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT IT. AND SO I END ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT CAME FROM PEDRO ON INSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT HIS EDD AND INSTRUCTION, BUT IT WAS LACKING ANY VISION OF SUCCESS. AND THERE ARE SUCCESSES ALL OVER THIS DISTRICT THAT OUGHT TO BE DUPLICATED. AND SCHOOLS, AS YOU LOOK AT 'EM OF FIVE, SIX, AND 700 KIDS THAT AREN'T PERFORMING WELL, HELP THEM. DON'T SHUT THE ONES THAT PARENTS AND COMMUNITIES LIKE, AND IT'S NOT VERY MUCH MONEY. THERE ARE BIGGER [00:55:01] ISSUES. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. I FORGOT TO START THAT WAY. OKAY? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. I STAND AVAILABLE TO ANY OF YOU IN ANY WAY, BUT YOU, YOU'RE APPROVING THINGS THAT ARE COSTING MORE MONEY. AND SO MR. CAMPBELL'S QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD WE HOLD UP ON? SHOULD BE ASKED IN SOME WAYS ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT ITEM [3. Consent Calendar] ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. THIS IS PRIMARILY, UH, TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES. AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE, THIS COMMENT IS HERE ABOUT THANKING DR. ROLLS. HMM. IT MIGHT BE A, A MISPLACEMENT. I, DR. ROLL IS THE SECRETARY, SO SHE REVIEWS THE MINUTES AND WE APPRECIATE HER EFFORTS. , , WELL, SHE'S, SHE'S NOT HERE TO HEAR ME DISRESPECT HER ON FOR THAT MOMENT. I, I'M SORRY. DR. ROLLS FOR THE RECORD. ALRIGHT, ANYWAY, FOR, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR A MOTION FOR THE MINUTES FOR S SEPTEMBER 24TH? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THEM. MOVE BY, UH, MEMBER PERON. SECOND. SECOND BY SULLIVAN. UH, MR. POP, JOY, CAN YOU CALL FOR THE ROLE VAULT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING. UM, MS. KAISER IS ABSENT. MS. LANG, WHO'S SITTING IN FOR DR. ROLLS. I WILL ABSTAIN. ABSTAIN. THANK YOU. UH, MS. LATH. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, MS. L MUELLER. AYE. THANK YOU MS. LEWIS, WHO'S ONLINE? I BACK TO HER. UH, MS. MCDOWELL. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, MS. PERONE. AYE. THANK YOU MR. PETERSON. AYE. MR. SULLIVAN? AYE. MR. MCFARLAND? AYE. MR. PENSKI? I THINK I HAVE TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS ABSENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. CAMPBELL. AYE. AND MR. HAMNER? AYE THE, UH, MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANNA CHECK WITH MS. LEWIS ONE MORE, MORE TIME? UH, MS. LEWIS, DO YOU WANNA RECORD A VOTE ON THE APPROVING? THE MINUTES? OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDAS [4. Define and Approve Two Projects to Provide Critical Replacements and Upgrades of School Building/Site Systems and Components and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein] ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THESE ARE TWO CRITICAL REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADE PROJECTS. AND I'M GONNA ASK MR. MARK CHO, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION NER MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE BOC. GOOD MORNING. GREAT TO SEE YOU IN PERSON. WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS BOTH FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING SAFETY CONCERNS. BY THE WAY, THESE TWO SCHOOLS ARE POPULAR SCHOOLS WITH HIGH ENROLLMENT AT ALEXANDRIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE WILL REPLACE AN UNSAFE PLAY STRUCTURE AT DANKER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE WILL REPLACE A COLLAPSED RETAINING WALL, AND I HAVE SLIDES FOR BOTH. ALEXANDRIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS A 20-YEAR-OLD, OVER 20-YEAR-OLD PLAY STRUCTURE THAT IS IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT. THE STRUCTURE HAS HAIRLINE CRACKS IN, IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THAT CANNOT BE REPAIRED. IT IS CURRENTLY CLOSED FOR SAFETY CONCERNS. THE PROJECT WILL REPLACE THE, UH, PLAY STRUCTURE AND THE EXISTING SAFETY MATTING. WE WILL ALSO INSTALL A SMALL SINGLE POST CHASE STRUCTURE TO COVER THE PLAY STRUCTURE. THIS IS A DSA PROJECT AND REQUIRES A DESIGN. TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $520,000. WE CAN START IN QUARTER THREE OF 2027 AND COMPLETE IN QUARTER TWO OF 2028. [01:00:04] THE SCHOOL, DANKER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS BUILT IN 1930. SO THE PICTURE SHOWS THE COLLAPSED RETAINING WALL. THE WALL IS BELIEVED TO BE MORE THAN 90 YEARS OLD. THEIR AREA IS CURRENTLY CLOSED. FOR SAFETY, WE WILL REPLACE THE RETAINING WALL AND ADJACENT, UH, PAVING WITH ALL THE CRACKS AND PLANT AREA, INCLUDING ITS IRRIGATION SYSTEM. AND WE'LL ALSO ADD NON-AGGRESSIVE, UH, TREES. IN TERMS OF ROOT DEVELOPMENT, THIS PROJECT REQUIRES A FULL DESIGN, BUT EXEMPTED FROM THE DSA OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THE RETAINING WALL IS LESS THAN FOUR FEET TALL, THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST IS JUST OVER $1.3 MILLION. CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN QUARTER ONE OF 2028 AND FINISH IN QUARTER 4, 20 28. THOSE ARE TWO PROJECTS I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHO. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CHO FOR THIS PROJECT? LOOKING AROUND MS. TON MILLER, WHEN IT'S, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALEXANDRIA WHEN IT'S CLOSED, UM, ISN'T THAT SORT OF A HAZARD FOR CHILDREN TO BE OUT? SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO SUPERVISE THAT AND MAKE SURE THE LITTLE ONES DON'T GO ONTO IT. IS THAT SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE, YEAH, UH, IT'S CLOSED BY OEHS. SO WE TAPE IT AROUND THE STRUCTURE ALRIGHT. SO THAT NOBODY GETS ON. SO IT'S A, IT'S A HAZARD THAT IS RATHER ATTRACTIVE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND IF NOT, OH YEAH, CALL MR. CAMPBELL. OH, DO YOU, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW AT ALEXANDRIA, WHAT WAS THE AGE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING REPLACED? IT IT DOESN'T, IT'S OVER 20 YEARS OLD. OVER 20. OKAY. WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION MO I'LL MOTION. MOTION BY SULLIVAN SECOND. MR. PETERSON? UH, MR. POPE? TROY, CAN YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE? YES. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE TWO CRITICAL UPGRADE PROJECTS. UM, MS. LANG AYE. THANK YOU MS. LATHE. AYE. THANK YOU MS. CHE MUELLER. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, MS. LEWIS. AYE. THANK YOU MS. MCDOWELL. AYE. THANK YOU MS. PERONE. AYE. THANK YOU MR. PETERSON. AYE. MR. SULLIVAN? AYE. MR. MCFARLAND? AYE. MR. PANSKY? AYE. MR. CAMPBELL AYE. AND MR. HAMNER? AYE. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 12 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. UH, [5. Define and Approve 23 Shade Structure Over Play Equipment Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein] THESE ARE 23 SHADE STRUCTURE PROJECTS. MR. CHO, WE HAVE YOU BACK. THANK YOU. THIS IS BASICALLY, UH, INSTALLING STRUCTURES, OVERPLAY EXISTING PLAY STRUCTURE. LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. UH, THIS INITIATIVE IS PART OF THE MAJOR MODERNIZATION FUNDED BY MAJOR US. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN JUNE, I BROUGHT IN THE FIRST BATCH OF SEVEN PROJECTS AND YOU ALL APPROVED. THIS TIME I'M BRINGING IN 23 PROJECTS. THE PROGRAM INCLUDES TOTAL OF 49 PROJECTS, SO I'LL COME BACK IN THE SPRING OF 2027 TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REMAINING 19 PROJECTS. UH, THIS QUESTION CAME UP DURING THE AGENDA SETTING MEETING. ALL 49 PROJECT SITES WERE SELECTED BASED ON, UH, FIVE, UH, CORE CRITERIA. THIS PROGRAM IS FOR ONLY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. WE HAVE TO HAVE MINIMUM OF 250 STUDENT ENROLLMENT. AND CURRENTLY THOSE, UH, 23 WILL BRING IN THE, UH, THE SMALLEST ONE HAS OVER 300 STUDENT ENROLLMENT. THEN THE SECOND, THE THIRD GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION, EQUAL ALLOCATION OF SEVEN PROJECTS PER BOARD DISTRICT SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, REASONABLE DISTRIBUTION THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. [01:05:01] THEN SELECTED SCHOOLS. ANOTHER CRITERIA CURRENTLY HAS NO SHADE OVER ANY PLAY STRUCTURE. LAST ONE IS BASED ON THE, UH, C STUDENT EQUITY NEED INDEX. EACH SITE HAS A DIFFERENT CONDITION, RIGHT? WE'RE INSTALLING A BRAND NEW SHADE STRUCTURE OVER EXISTING PLAY STRUCTURE AND EXISTING, UH, SAFETY MATTING. NOT EVERYTHING IS IN, UH, UP TO PAR. SOME OF 'EM NEEDS REPAIR, SOME OF 'EM MAY NEED REPLACEMENT. SO IT'S CASE BY CASES. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE FOR ME. UH, OUR GOAL IS NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE A USEFUL, VALUABLE, SAFE PLACES FOR OUR STUDENTS, BUT ALSO TO SHARPEN OUR APPROACH TO SAVE DESIGN COSTS, DESIGN TIME, OR CONSTRUCTION TIME. THEREFORE, OUR APPROACH IS LIMIT STRUCTURE TO FIVE TYPES. THAT WILL, UH, HELP THE PROCESS OF PROCUREMENT. ALSO CUT DOWN THE DESIGN COST. WE ALSO ARE BUNDLING PROJECTS BY GEOGRAPHIC AREAS SO THAT, UH, THE SAME CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES CAN COMPLETE MULTIPLE NEARBY PROJECTS, REDUCING THE CONSTRUCTION AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT COST. SO OUR PROJECT MANAGERS, CMS CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL FROM SOUTH TO NORTH OR EAST TO WEST, VICE VERSA. WE ARE ALSO GROUPING DESIGNS BY SOIL CONDITIONS AS SOME OF SITES ARE IN LIQUEFACTION ZONES. I'LL EXPLAIN THAT LATER. ALSO, WE ARE UTILIZING PRETTY MUCH AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, THE U-S-T-D-S-A PRE-APPROVED SHADE STRUCTURES. WE ARE ALSO ALREADY CONDUCTING OUTREACH WITH THE MANUFACTURERS AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. WE'LL BE PROACTIVELY INVITING CONTRACTORS TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSALS. LIQUEFACTION ZONE, THIS IS THE AREA WHERE SOIL HAS HIGH CONTENT OF, UH, WATER, SO THAT IN CASE IF IT'S SHAKEN, FOR EXAMPLE, BY SEISMIC FORCE, IT BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. UM, IT LOSES THE STABILITY AND THE STRENGTH SO THAT IT WORKS AS A THICK LIQUID. SO BECAUSE OF THAT CONDITION, IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL DIGGING, ADDITIONAL DESIGN, ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE SUPPORT. AND BASED ON OUR COST ESTIMATES, LIQUEFACTION, THOSE PROJECT IN LIQUEFACTION ZONES ADD ADDITIONAL 30% PROJECT COST. AND NEXT SLIDE. I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE ARE. SO THESE ARE BUSY SLIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE 23 PROJECTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, COLUMN ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION START, IT'S EITHER QUARTER FOUR OF 2027 OR QUARTER TWO OF 2028, QUARTER TWO OF 2028. THE LATTER START PROJECTS, THOSE ARE THE ONES IN LI AFFECTION ZONE. THERE ARE 13 OF 'EM OUT OF 23. THOSE ARE STARTING AT QUARTER FOUR OF 20, 27 EARLIER START, WHICH DOESN'T TAKE A MORE DESIGN TIME, UH, OR IN NON AFFECTION ZONE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, STRUCTURE SIZE, THERE ARE ONLY FIVE TYPES. 40 BY 60, 40 BY 40, 30 BY 40, 20 BY 60, AND 20 BY 30. ALL STRUCTURES HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT, 15 FEET. THE LARGEST IS 40 BY 60 AT, FOR EXAMPLE, AT SOUTH PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE THE, UH, HIGHEST IN CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. AND THE SMALLEST ONE IS 20 BY 30. FOR EXAMPLE, AT MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LINE NUMBER 14, EVERY PROJECT HAS A DIFFERENT PRICE, RIGHT? THE COST ARE DRIVEN BY MAINLY THREE MAIN FACTORS, LIKE, AGAIN, STRUCTURE SIZE, STRUCTURE SIZE. THEN ADDITIONAL SCOPE, LIKE I MENTIONED, SOME PROJECT REQUIRE WORK SUCH AS REPLACING MATTING [01:10:01] OR REPAIR PLAY STRUCTURE OR REPLACEMENT OF PLAY STRUCTURE. THEN THE THIRD LIQUEFACTION IMPACTS THE COST. THE HIGHEST I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT 1.25 MILLION. THAT'S LINE. THE HIGHEST COST IS SOUTH PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THAT'S LINE NUMBER 22. THE LOWEST PROJECT COST IS, UH, HOOPER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THAT'S LINE NUMBER 12 AT ABOUT $497,000. THAT'S ALL FOR THIS PROGRAM. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, QUESTIONS, IF, IF MS. PRO, THANK YOU, MR. CHO, UH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, IN TALKING ABOUT REPLACING SOME OF THE STRUCTURES, EXCUSE ME. HOW OLD ARE THESE STRUCTURES THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED MAY ALSO NEED TO BE REPLACING THOSE THAT DO REQUIRE STRUCTURAL REPLACEMENT BECAUSE IT HAS CORRECT LINES OR IT HAS ADDITIONAL DETERIORATION IS AT LEAST 20 YEARS OLD. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL. UH, A QUESTION FOR YOU ON, UH, KIND OF RELATED BACK TO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. SO A COUPLE OF THESE, UM, CAMPUSES, AT LEAST, UM, BASED ON THE DISTRICT'S NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, I'LL, I'LL USE A HUNDRED 12TH STREET AND FORNO AS EXAMPLES. UM, 57 AND 62% RESPECTIVELY OF THE TOTAL CLASSROOMS ON THOSE CAMPUSES APPEAR TO BE SET ASIDE FOR OTHER THAN CLASSROOM PURPOSES. AND SO BASED ON THE FC MAP METHODOLOGY, THOSE SCHOOLS ARE 71 AND 78% EMPTY. UM, SO SHOULD THERE BE A CONCERN, UH, ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF THOSE CAMPUSES GOING FORWARD, IF WE'RE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND THESE FUNDS NOW, UH, TO, TO CONSTRUCT THESE PROJECTS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MR. CAMPBELL. UH, ACTUALLY THE LOWEST ENROLLMENT COMPARED TO THE CAPACITY IS AT HOOPER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND BEACHY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, ENROLLMENT COMPARED TO THE CAPACITY. HOWEVER, STILL THEIR ENROLLMENT, UH, OVER 500 STUDENTS AT HOOPER AND BEACH, THERE ARE OVER 450 STUDENTS. THE ONE OF THE CRITERIA I, UH, MENTIONED EARLIER IS BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT, AT LEAST 250 STUDENTS, AND IN OUR CASE, ALL 23 SCHOOLS EXCEED 300 STUDENTS. SO THERE ARE LIKELY NOT TO BE IN THE CATEGORY OF FUTURE CLOSURE. SO THAT'S THE REASON, LIKE MR. SDO MENTIONED, WE WENT THROUGH WITH ALL THESE EXERCISES LOOKING AT THE DATA, COMPARE WHICH SCHOOL, AND THAT'S HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THIS SOLID, UH, SCHOOL LIST FOR THIS PRESENTATION. YEAH, I, I JUST, IN, IN LOOKING AGAIN AT LIKE A HUNDRED 12TH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THERE ARE, BASED ON THE DISTRICT'S NUMBERS, 44 TOTAL CLASSROOMS, BUT 19 ARE BEING USED FOR INSTRUCTION. AND SO THEN 25 CLASSROOMS ARE SET ASIDE FOR NON INSTRUCTION PURPOSES. UM, AND I GUESS THEN BASED ON THE FC MAP METHODOLOGY, THAT SCHOOL HAS A CAPACITY OF UP TO 1100 STUDENTS, UM, OR 71% VACANCY RATE, UM, INCLUDING THE SET ASIDE CLASSROOMS. I, I, I GUESS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL GOING FORWARD, AND I DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY TO HAVE AN ANSWER TODAY, UM, FOR US. 'CAUSE IT MIGHT OBVIATE A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS JUST MORE BROADLY TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTRICT'S CRITERIA. UH, LIKE WHO, WHO MAKES AN ULTIMATE DECISION ABOUT WHEN A CLASSROOM IS SET ASIDE AND, AND WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR THAT? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST MADE BY THE SCHOOL SITE ADMINISTRATOR OR IS THERE A STANDARDIZED CRITERIA THAT'S PUBLISHED THAT, THAT WE COULD EDUCATE OURSELVES WITH SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE? UM, BECAUSE WHILE THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE, SHADE STRUCTURES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENOVATIONS OF CLASSROOM SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, AND THE NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, UH, CLASSROOMS THAT WE'RE REPLACING OR, OR PORTABLES THAT WE'RE REPLACING, UM, PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION OF, OF, I GUESS THE PRUDENCE OF THAT IS, IS WHAT'S THE NEED, RIGHT? AND WE'VE LOOKED AT ENROLLMENT TRENDS, BUT NOW WE ALSO HAVE THIS COUNT OF ROOMS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN INSTRUCTION. SO, UM, IT'S JUST A GAP IN KNOWLEDGE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. AND, AND I, I'M SURE THE DISTRICT HAS CRITERIA AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE BEING APPLIED CONSISTENTLY AND MAINTAINED AT A, AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE SCHOOL SITE. BUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO MAYBE GOING FORWARD THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INFORMATION FOR US TO HAVE. LET ME, WE JUST HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY. WE WERE REVIEWING ALL BOARD [01:15:01] APPROVED PROJECTS. GOOD EXAMPLE, THE ROOFING, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MEETING WAS ON THIS ROOFING ALREADY BOARD APPROVED. WE ARE READY TO GO FORWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION. HOWEVER, THE UTILIZATION, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IS VERY LOW. IT WAS CAMPUS WIDE, UH, ROOFING PROJECTS. SO WE HAD A MEETING, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT MEETING. AND, UH, GOING FORWARD WITH THE DECISION THAT LET'S NOT INCLUDE THESE PORTABLES, THEY'RE SET ASIDE ANYWAY, LET'S INCLUDE, LET'S DO THE ROOFING PROJECTS FOR THE MAIN, MAIN BUILDINGS. THEN IF THERE'S A LEAK IN THESE PORTABLES, WE'LL DO THE REPAIR, PARTIAL REPAIR. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF MOMENTUM WE ARE, UH, TAKING AT THIS TIME, UH, TOWARDS THE BOND PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S NOT CHEAP TO REPLACE ALL THE ROOFING, BUT WE ALSO CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. SO AS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, I'M NOT IGNORING WHAT SURE. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT'S, UM, AN INTERESTING RESPONSE AND A GOOD RESPONSE. AND FROM MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT CONTEXT SHADE STRUCTURE REGARDLESS OF THIS BEING REGIONAL AS WELL. UH, BUT IT DOES BRING TO LIGHT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE MORE COGNIZANT OF, YOU KNOW, UTILIZATION AND THE DESCRIPTION OF SET-ASIDES AND HOW THAT'S REALLY DETERMINED AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT POLICY MAY BE. BUT, UM, FOR A PROJECT LIKE YOURS AND CRITICAL MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH, BUT EVEN UNDER CRITICAL MAINTENANCE IN YOUR EXAMPLE, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, A THUMBS UP ON TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SENDS A BETTER MESSAGING FOR THIS PERS PERSON, ESPECIALLY YOU. YOU HAD A QUESTION, ONE OF YOU GUYS. GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION I, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FOR SHADE STRUCTURE, BUT I'M WONDERING, UM, ARE TARPS CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, FOR PLAY STRUCTURES THAT ARE PROBABLY CLOSER TO BUILDINGS WHERE A TARP COULD BE USED, UM, TO PROVIDE THE SAME TYPE OF SHADE? UM, I IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A FEW MORE SCHOOLS THAT THAT COULD USE THIS AS AN OPTION. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL, IF I HEARD THAT CORRECTLY. YOU MENTIONED TARP. YES. VERSUS BUILDING AN ENTIRE STRUCTURE, JUST A TARP THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ATTACHED TO AN ADJACENT BUILDING OR TO, IF THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS SITUATED CLOSE ENOUGH. WE, WE HAD MANY SITUATIONS WHERE SCHOOL BROUGHT IN THE TARP FABRIC AND CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING. UH, WHEN WE FIND OUT WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN THOSE UNSAFE UNAPPROVED, UH OH, OKAY. STRUCTURE. YEAH. DSA IS VERY KEEN ON WATCHING THOSE. WHEN, UH, WIND BLOWS CERTAIN SPEED, IT WILL FLIP THE TARP AND HURT SOMEBODY. SO ALL THIS CHASE STRUCTURE PROGRAM WE'RE BRINGING IN IS STRICTLY GOVERNED BY THE DSA FOR STRUCTURAL, UH, INTEGRITY. SO TARP, YEAH, IT'S NOT AN OPTION. YEAH. AWESOME. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT INSIGHT. AND SO THEN SECONDARY TO THAT WOULD BE, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THERE'S A FEW, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER BATCH COMING, UM, NEXT YEAR, I THINK YOU SAID. BUT UM, WILL THERE BE MORE, UM, IN THE FUTURE AFTER THAT? THAT, UM, THAT COMING BATCH? I'LL JUST SAY, SO AFTER THAT LAST BATCH OF 19 PROJECT THAT WILL CONCLUDE THIS PROGRAM, IF THERE'S A CASE WHERE WE FIND OUT THAT, HEY, THERE'S A STRUCTURE WE HAD ALREADY BUILT 10 YEARS AGO BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE, THEN THAT FALLS IN THE CURRICULUM REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THIS IS DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAM. THIS IS NOT A CURRICULUM REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS I BROUGHT IN, THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS WE USE FOR CURRICULUM REPLACEMENT BUCKET. SO IF THAT SHARED STRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE BECOMES UNSAFE, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY REPLACE THAT. I'LL BRING IT BACK HERE TO THIS PODIUM TO PRESENT THOSE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU MS. LANG. APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS. UH, ER, MS. L, MS. LA FIRST. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, LOOKING AT THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD A COMMENT, UH, COLUMN THAT SHOWS ENROLLMENT CAPACITY FOR EACH OF THE SCHOOL SITES? IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THOSE SCHOOLS ARE AT CAPACITY FOR ENROLLMENT, CONSIDERING THAT DECLINING ENROLLMENT IS A CONCERN AND IT'S PART OF OUR STRONGER, STRONGER SCHOOLS TOGETHER PROGRAM. SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD THAT SO WE GET AN IDEA BASICALLY PIGGYBACKING OFF OF, OFF OF MR. CAMPBELL'S COMMENT ABOUT HAVING AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF ENROLLMENT IS, I'LL ASK THAT TO MR. NEXT TIME. THIS SEEMS LIKE TWO CELLS COMING TOGETHER, JUST DOING THE MATH, RIGHT? REAL QUICK. YEAH. SERGEANT MUER, YES. DECLINING ENROLLMENT IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE ON CAMPUS RIGHT NOW, AND [01:20:01] THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITY. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PANSKY, COULD YOU CLARIFY THE COST FOR, UH, SOUTH PARK? I DON'T, IT'S ALMOST DOUBLE. UH, IT IS THE OTHER, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, BESIDES, UM, THE LIQUIFICATION OF RIGHT, WHAT ELSE IS CAUSING THAT PRICE? IT IS IN THE LIQUEFY ZONE. SO THAT'S ONE FACTOR. AND THERE'S A NOTE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STRUCTURE. UH, THERE ARE THREE SITES, WHICH INCLUDES SALT PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT REQUIRES COMPLETE REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING PLAY STRUCTURE. SO THAT AS, UH, GOOD, UH, AMOUNT OF COST. THAT ALONE, I HAVE THE NUMBER IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN YEAH, I AM. THAT LOAN IS OVER $300,000 FOR THE STRUCTURE REPLACING, YEAH, STRUCTURE, THE MATTING IS PART OF IT. SO IT ADDS UP. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, L AFFECTION ALONE AS 30% OF THE COST. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS, DO YOU EVER CONSIDER LIKE A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE OR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAN JUST REPLACING STRUCTURES? WE DO ACTUALLY ONE OF 'EM, ONE OF 'EM HAS A DIFFERENT, UH, TYPE OF, I'LL PULL IT UP, DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, SHADES. I THINK THAT IS THE LOWEST COST. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE LOWEST COST OF PROJECTS, UH, HAS A, SOMETHING CALLED SHADE SAIL, NOT SHADE STRUCTURE. THE DIFFERENCE IS SHADE STRUCTURE HAS A FOUR TYPICAL COLUMNS SUPPORTING THE STRUCTURE. SHADE SAIL IS, OH, YOU HAVE A SINGLE POST, THEN IT'S LIKE UMBRELLA. OH, IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE PHOTO'S HERE. SO THOSE ARE SHAA SALE. SO THAT, YEAH, WE CONSIDER ALL DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. THE REASON WE PICKED THAT SHAA SALE FOR THAT LOCATION IS THAT, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE, THERE'S A RETAINING WALL. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO DO FOUR COLUMNS TO SUPPORT SHAA STRUCTURE. SO THAT IS A SHADE CELL. SO WE DO SHADE CELL, UH, ALSO WE DO SHADE STRUCTURE AS WELL. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. SO MY QUESTION IS, UH, PRESUMABLY THE, THE CONCRETE SUPPORTS WILL LAST A REALLY LONG TIME, PROBABLY UPWARDS OF 20 YEARS, CORRECT? MORE THAN 20, YEAH. HOW LONG, WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED LIFESPAN OF THE, THE AWNING MATERIAL? THAT CON THAT MAKES UP THE SHADE? IT SAID, ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURER, THE FABRIC IS 10 TO 15 YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION, WHETHER, UH, MATTING IS ALSO 15 YEARS. PLAY STRUCTURE IS 15 YEARS. AND AGAIN, PLAY STRUCTURE, BECAUSE IT'S A STRUCTURE, IT CAN LAST LONGER. WE'VE SEEN THEM LASTING 20 MORE YEARS. AND SHADE STRUCTURE IS ALSO 15 YEARS AS WELL. MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE FABRIC MATERIAL THAT'S, THAT'S ON THERE, UH, THERE'S A SINGLE MANUFACTURER FOR THAT. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS IS IN THE EVENT THAT SAY 15 YEARS FROM NOW THAT MANUFACTURER DOESN'T EXIST, IS THERE A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE COVERS OR THAT AWNING MATERIAL LATER? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AND LIKE I SAID, WE ARE UTILIZING, UH, ALREADY DSA APPROVED STRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND THE IN CASE OUR 49 PROJECT PROGRAM, WE HAVE FIVE VENDORS WHO PROVIDES THOSE, UH, STRUCTURE. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE COMPANY, BUT USJ IS PRETTY MUCH THE LARGEST COMPANY IN LA AREA WHO PROVIDES THOSE FABRICS AND STRUCTURE. COULD YOU REPEAT THE NAME? I, I MISSED THAT. US SHADE. SHADE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? WHY NOT ALL? MOTION. MOTION SULLIVAN. SECOND. SECOND CAMPBELL MOTION. MO SULLIVAN. SECOND CAMPBELL. MR. POCHO CALL FOR VOTE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE 23 SHADE STRUCTURE PROJECTS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THESE PROJECTS, MS. LANG? AYE. THANK YOU MS. LATHE. AYE. MS. URCHIN MUELLER. AYE. MS. LEWIS? AYE. THANK YOU MS. MCDOWELL. AYE. THANK YOU MS. PERONE. AYE. MR. PETERSON? AYE. MR. SULLIVAN? AYE. MR. MCFARLAND? AYE. MR. PANSKY? AYE. MR. CAMPBELL? [01:25:01] AYE. MR. HAMNER? AYE. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 12 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M, UH, AS NOTED EARLIER, I'M TURNING OVER THE GAVEL OR CHAIR DUTIES TO MR. CAMPBELL AND I WILL SEE YOU ALL NEXT MEETING. ALRIGHT. I GUESS IT'S A BLUETOOTH GAVEL. UM, ALRIGHT, UH, THAT BRINGS [6. Define and Approve 27 Board District Priority and Region Priority Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein] US TO ITEM NUMBER 6 27 BOARD AND REGION PRIORITY PROJECTS. AND I THINK WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MR. CHOSE RETURN. SIR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. AS YOU CAN SEE, MY BINDER'S GETTING HEAVIER FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS. SO WE HAVE A B, D, P AND RP BOARD DISTRICT PRIORITY AND REGION PRIORITY PROJECTS. WE HAVE 27 PROJECTS, AND THESE ARE THE ONES YOU HAVE SEEN EVERY CASE, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD, GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN. UH, WE HAVE TWO AUDITORIUM UPGRADE PROJECTS, TWO BOTTLE FILLERS. WE HAVE THREE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, SIX FENCING PROJECTS, EIGHT FURNITURE SUPPORT, THEN FIVE MARKET PROJECTS, THEN ONE RECONFIGURATION PROJECTS. AND WE HAVE THREE SLIDES TO SHARE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AND THE TOTAL PROJECT COST FOR THIS CYCLE IS LITTLE OVER $2.5 MILLION. WE WANTED TO SHARE THIS EXCITING PROJECT AT CRENSHAW MAGNET HIGH SCHOOL. WE ARE BUILDING A NEW PHYSICAL THERAPY CLASSROOM. WE'RE CONVERTING THE EXISTING, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURE STORAGE ROOM TO A BEAUTIFUL, UH, THERAPY CLASSROOM. WE ARE REPLACING THE OLD CARPET WITH VCT, PROVIDE NEW FURNITURE, NEW PAINT, AND ALL OTHER NECESSARY WORK AND FURNITURE AS WELL. AND IT WILL BE AN AMAZING PHYSICAL THERAPY CLASSROOM. BOARD DISTRICT IS FUNDING $150,000 FOR THIS PROJECT. REGION IS FUNDING $50,000. TEAM HILL GOT THE DONATION MR. PENSKE, $50,000 FROM TEAM HILL. THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CEDAR SINAI MEDICAL CENTER WILL DONATE $50,000. TEAM HILL NOT ONLY DONATING THE $50,000 BUCKET, THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING THE ONSITE PHYSICAL TRAINERS TO TRAIN OUR STUDENTS AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT. NEXT PROJECT IS TYPICAL, UH, AUDITORIUM, UH, UPGRADE. WE ARE REPLACING THOSE ASBESTOS TILES TO A NEWER V CT TILES AND REPLACING ALL THESE DETERIORATED OLD SEATS WITH A MODERNIZED, UH, SEATS WITH PAD AND PADDING. I SAVED THE BEST FOR THE LAST, THIS IS THE FREEMAN HIGH SCHOOL. AGAIN, MR. PENSKE. WE GOT THE DONATED JET ENGINE SITTING THERE. YOU'RE SEEING THE PICTURE. UH, THIS IS TO PROVIDE AN OUTDOOR LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR STEAM STUDENTS TO STUDY A JET ENGINE. WE HAVE THE JET ENGINE SITTING THERE IS ABOUT 15,000 POUNDS BY ITSELF. UH, IT'S DONATED BY A AIRCRAFT COMPANY, UH, BY LOGISTIC AIR. WE WILL PROVIDE A FENCE AREA, UH, SITTING ARRANGEMENT, PEDESTRIAN GATES, AND SOME, UH, IRRIGATION AND NEW WALKWAY. A PROJECT WILL, UH, SUPPORT THE STUDENTS FOR AEROSPACE ENGINEERING CAPSTONE COURSE. THIS IS MY LAST PROJECT FROM BDP AND RP PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS? I THINK THIS IS THE ONE OF THOSE ON THERE IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE WROUGHT IRON PROJECT I'VE EVER SEEN. SO, UM, IT'S EITHER REALLY SMALL PIECE OF WRT IRON OR, UH, WE'RE GETTING AN AMAZING DEAL. AND IF SO, KUDOS TO, TO YOU ALL ON NEGOTIATING THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, NOT SEEING, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? UH, MOVED BY MR. PANSKY. DO WE HAVE [01:30:01] A SECOND? SECOND VOICE FROM THE ETHER. OKAY. THANK YOU MS. LANG. OKAY. MOVED BY PANSKY, SECONDED BY LANG. MR. POPE JOY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU. MR. CAMPBELL. MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 27, UH, REGION AND BOARD DISTRICT PROJECTS. MS. LANG? AYE. THANK YOU MS. LATHE. AYE. MS. L MUELLER? AYE. MS. LEWIS? AYE. THANK YOU MS. MCDOWELL. AYE. THANK YOU MS. PERONE. AYE. MR. PETERSON? AYE. MR. SULLIVAN? AYE. MR. MCFARLAND? AYE. MR. PENSKI? AYE. MR. CAMPBELL AYE. AND MR. HAMNER IS NOW ABSENT. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 11 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT MOVES US ON [7. Five Accessibility Enhancement Projects and One Barrier Removal Project and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein] TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FIVE ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS. I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. ISAM DUL, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION ON THESE ITEMS. GOOD MORNING. BOC MEMBERS, UH, ASSAM DUL, UM, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENTS. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR FIVE ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS. AND WE HAVE ONE, UH, WHAT WE CALL A BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT. SO I WILL BE GOING THROUGH, SO YOU'VE SEEN THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS BEFORE. WE HAVE AN ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAM. UM, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2017, WE APPROVED THE SELF-EVALUATION AND TRANSITION PLAN, UM, UNDER THE A DA, UM, TO FURTHER OUR COMPLIANCE, UM, WITH A DA TITLE TWO PROGRAM ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR CAMPUSES. AND SO THIS TRANSITION PLAN ULTIMATELY PROVIDES, UM, WITH, UM, ASSIGNS CAMPUSES TO THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ACCESSIBILITY. AND SO, UM, SCHOOLS REQUIRING THE ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS ARE THEN PRIORITIZED AND WE BRING FORWARD PROJECTS, UM, AND WE'RE ROLLING OUT PROJECTS CONTINUOUSLY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. UM, AND SO HOW WE PRIORITIZE AND THE ACCESS, THE LEVEL OF ASSIGNMENT THAT WE DO IS BASICALLY ON, BASED ON SCHOOL PROGRAMS, MATRICULATION, PAT OPTIONS, UM, FEEDER PATTERNS, LOCATION. SO ULTIMATELY WE IDENTIFY AN AREA THAT IS IN NEED OF ACCESSIBILITY, AND WE IDENTIFY A SCHOOL WITHIN THAT AREA, UM, THAT WE WILL FOCUS ON AT ANY GIVEN TIME AS WE START ROLLING THESE PROJECTS OUT. UM, SO THE THREE LEVELS OF ACCESSIBILITY CATEGORY ONE SCHOOLS WITH HIGHEST LEVEL OF ACCESS. UM, ULTIMATELY IT WOULD BE, UM, A EITHER NEW CONSTRUCTION STANDARD OR WITH SOME, UM, ALTERED AND LIMITED EXCEPTIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY A MORE OR LESS FULLY ACCESSIBLE CAMPUS. CATEGORY TWO IS WHAT WE CALL PROGRAM ACCESSIBLE, UM, SCHOOLS WHERE THE CORE SPACES AND FEATURES ARE ACCESSIBLE AS WELL AS, UH, PROVIDING ACCESSIBILITY TO ALL PROGRAMS. COULD BE FIRST GRADE, KINDERGARTEN, SECOND GRADE, UM, IT COULD BE IF THERE'S A DANCE ROOM AND THERE'S A SPECIAL PROGRAM THERE, THEN WE'RE PROVIDING IT. IF IT'S A GYM ON A HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, THEN WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, UM, ACCESSIBILITY TO THOSE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES AT THE SCHOOL. SO BOTH, UH, SO THAT WE HAVE ACCESSIBLE PATHS, UM, TO AND FROM ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES FOR EQUAL ACCESS. AND THEN CATEGORY THREE SCHOOLS PROVIDE JUST BASIC LEVEL OF ACCESS, UM, FOR CORE BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE, THE COMMON SPACES. AND SO THOSE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND EVERY SCHOOL IS ASSIGNED A LEVEL. UM, AND ULTIMATELY FROM THAT, THAT IS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO SET ACCESSIBILITY FOR THAT CAMPUS, UM, AS WE DEVELOP OUR PROJECTS. SO ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS ARE DEVELOPED, UM, ONLY FOR THOSE SCHOOLS THAT DO NOT MEET, UH, THAT ALREADY DON'T MEET. SO IF YOU'RE A CATEGORY TWO SCHOOL, IF WE IDENTIFIED IT AND YOU DON'T MEET THE CATEGORY TWO, UM, IDENTIFICATION, THEN WE WOULD THEN GO FORWARD WITH A PROJECT TO GET THEM TO A CATEGORY TWO. SO WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE, UM, FIVE PROJECTS HERE TODAY, PLUS THE BARRIER REMOVAL. YOU CAN SEE THE MAP THAT ARE KIND OF SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AT HUBBARD ELEMENTARY, O'MELVENY, UM, HALE, KENTER CANYON, UM, CHARTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OVERLAND AND NEVIN. AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THOSE IN A SECOND. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'VE GOT THE PROJECT BUDGET FOR EACH OF THESE, RANGING FROM 638,000 FOR, UH, THE BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT AT O'MELVENY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS A CATEGORY THREE THAT IS REALLY A BARRIER REMOVAL. IT'S A VERY, VERY SPECIFIC, AND I'LL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE SCOPE ON THAT ONE IN A SECOND. UM, AND THEN FOR THE, UM, THE OTHER PROJECTS, THE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN POINT, UH, 6 MILLION, UH, OR SORRY, 3.6 MILLION RANGE TO THE 13.8 MILLION AT HALE CHARTER. AND THAT'S TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET. SO HERE'S SOME JUST BACKUP INFORMATION JUST TO KINDA GIVE YOU THE SCALE OF HOW [01:35:01] BIG THESE CAMPUSES ARE. UM, YOU CAN SEE IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE BUILDING AREA, WHICH IS IN THE LIGHT BLUE, AND THEN THE SITE SIZE OF HOW BIG THE CAMPUS ITSELF IS. REMEMBER WITH PROGRAMMATIC ACCESS, WE'RE DOING PATHS TO TRAVEL SO IT COULD AFFECT ASPHALT AND PATHS THROUGHOUT. IT ALSO CAN AFFECT, UM, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF DRINKING FOUNTAINS, ACCESSIBLE HARDWARE TO GET IN AND OUT ELEVATORS IF YOU NEED TO, DEPENDING ON, UH, IF IT'S A SINGLE OR TWO STORY BUILDING, UM, AS NECESSARY AND AS NECESSARY TO GET TO THAT PROGRAMMATIC. SO TO GET THOSE, TO GET TO THOSE PROGRAMS. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'VE PROVIDED THE STUDENT ENROLLMENTS, WHICH RANGES FROM 308 STUDENTS ALL THE WAY TO 1,564. UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE'VE JUST PROVIDED THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET. UM, WE ALWAYS PROVIDE THIS AS KIND OF JUST BACKUP, UH, BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN TERMS OF STUDENT ELIGIBILITY, UM, IN TERMS OF DISABILITIES AT EACH OF THE CAMPUSES. THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT, UM, ULTIMATELY IT'S JUST BACKUP INFORMATION THAT PROVIDES INFO AT WHAT TYPES OF STUDENTS ARE CURRENTLY THERE NOW THAT, UM, ARE ELIGIBLE IN TERMS OF, UH, DISABILITIES. SO I'M GONNA, UH, DIVE INTO EACH OF THE CAMPUSES, UM, ONE AT A TIME. SO THE FIRST, UM, IS YOU CAN SEE HAIL CHARTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SORRY, HAIL CHARTER, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL, SORRY, NOT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, SO WE'VE GOT 12, UM, ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENTS IN 12 BUILDINGS. I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THE SCOPE. YOU CAN SEE THE TEAM GOES THROUGH AND DOES KIND OF A PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS AS WE'RE SCOPING THE PROJECTS TO IDENTIFY WHERE ACCESSIBILITY IS, UH, NEEDED ON THE CAMPUS, UM, TO REACH TO ALL THOSE PROGRAMS. UM, YOU CAN SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET ITSELF, UM, AND THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS, UM, OF THE, UH, PROJECT BUDGET WORKSHEET, AND THEN OUR PROJECT SCHEDULE. IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED TO START IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2029 AND COMPLETING IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2031 HUBBARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, THIS CAMPUS, UM, HAS 33 PATHS OF TRAVEL, 13 RESTROOMS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ACCESSIBILITY, UM, ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE ARE DOING. THIS PROJECT IS $10.7 MILLION AND WE'VE PROVIDED A BREAK BREAK, UM, A BREAKDOWN CONSTRUCTION STARTING ANTICIPATED FOR FIRST QUARTER 2029 AND FINISHING IN 2031. AND THIS IS A TK THROUGH FIFTH GRADE WITH 460 STUDENTS, 26 27 SCHOOL YEAR. KENTER CANYON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH THE SCOPE, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT, UM, VARIOUS ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENTS. PROJECT BUDGET IS $5.2 MILLION CONSTRUCTION STARTING FIRST QUARTER 2029, AND COMPLETING IN Q2 2030. AND THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 448 STUDENTS FOR THE 26 27 SCHOOL YEAR. AND IT'S A TK THROUGH FIVE NEVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE SCOPE INCLUDES RESTROOMS, DRINKING FOUNTAINS, PATHS OF TRAVEL. UM, THIS IS A $3.6 MILLION PROJECT AND IT'S STARTING IN Q CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED IT'S A STARTING Q1 2029 AND BE COMPLETED BY Q1 2030. AND THIS CAMPUS HAS 412 STUDENTS, OVERLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, PAA TRAVEL RESTROOMS, DRINKING FOUNTAINS, RAMPS, ET CETERA, AGAIN, TO PROVIDE PROGRAMMATIC ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS. UM, $7.7 MILLION ANTICIPATED TO START Q1 2029 AND COMPLETE IT IN 2030. AND THIS CAMPUS HAS 509 STUDENTS FOR THE 26 27 SCHOOL YEAR. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, O MELVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THIS IS A, WHAT WE CALL A BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT. SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED A SPECIFIC NEED FOR THE CAMPUS. WE MIGHT AT, AT SOME LATER TIME COME IN AND PROVIDE A BIGGER PROJECT, UM, FOR THE ENTIRE CAMPUS FOR PROGRAMMATIC ACCESS. BUT WE, UM, THESE ARE PART OF OUR RAPID RESPONSE, UH, RAPID PROGRAM WHERE WE TRY TO GO IN AND IDENTIFY, UM, SPECIFIC BARRIERS THAT THE SCHOOL NEEDS, TRY TO GET THEM IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. IN THIS CASE, IT'S A CHANGING ROOM THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WHICH WILL ALSO HAVE A RESTROOM. UM, THIS IS NOT BASED ON JUST ONE PARTICULAR STUDENT, BUT THERE IS, UM, UM, GROUPING OF STUDENTS, UM, FOR THE LONG TERM THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT COULD USE THIS. UM, THIS PROJECT IS $638,000, UM, STARTING IN Q2 28 AND ENDING IN Q4 2028. AS YOU CAN SEE, BASED ON THE SCHEDULE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND THIS SCHOOL HAS 308 STUDENTS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE I, I TURN IT OVER TO MEMBERS ON, UM, O'MELVENY. UM, WHAT, WHAT DO, UM, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS, WHEN, WHEN DO THEY, WHEN DO THEY CHANGE ATTIRE FOR THIS IS FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION. I SEE. OKAY. YEAH, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SPECIALIZED SAID IF, UM, AND, AND THAT'S THE, THE QUICKEST WE CAN, I [01:40:01] ASSUME THAT MEETS A STUDENT NEED THAT'S THERE NOW, AND THAT'S THE QUICKEST WE CAN EXECUTE ON THAT GRANT USING SOME. YEAH, AS ALWAYS, WE TRY TO GO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'LL IDENTIFY ONCE WE START DESIGN WHETHER OR NOT THIS REQUIRES DSA, WHICH WE BELIEVE IT WILL. UM, SO THAT DOES TAKE SOME TIME. WE COULD TRY TO DO A QUICK, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL EXPEDITE WITH DSA AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, BUT BASED ON OUR ESTIMATION, THIS IS THE SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF GETTING THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. FIRST WE GOTTA GET AN ARCHITECT GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, DSA AS NECESSARY, AND THEN GETTING A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD ON, AND I REALIZE THIS IS, THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER PROJECT THAN THE REST OF THEM, BUT, UM, ON, ON THIS ONE, SO THERE'S 32 CLASSROOMS ON THAT CAMPUS. UM, AT 25 KIDS A CLASS THAT'S 800 STUDENT CAPACITY. UM, WE HAVE 308. UH, DO WE, UM, I I GUESS WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING ARE IN A BUILDING THAT, THAT MIGHT BE SURPLUS TO USE IN THE FUTURE OR, OR PLANS FOR THE SCHOOL OR THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN THEN BE, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE TO REMOVE PORTABLES, THEN, UM, IF WE'RE, I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE ARE PUTTING IT IN A PORTABLE CLASSROOM, SO, BUT IT'D BE ONE OF THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE BIGGER BUILDINGS, THE MAIN BUILDINGS. SO THEREFORE YOU COULD REDUCE ENROLLMENT IF YOU NEEDED TO. IT WOULD REDUCE CAPACITY BY REMOVING OTHER PORTABLE CLASSROOMS. BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROJECT WHERE, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A QUOTE UNQUOTE PORTABLE REMOVAL PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE JUST REMOVING, TYPICALLY WE'RE REMOVING PORTABLES AND EITHER REPLACING THEM WITH, UM, SUBTYPE OF GREENING IF IT'S A PART OF A GREEN SCHOOL YARD OR A PLAYGROUND UPGRADE PROJECT, OR AS PART OF A CLASSROOM UPGRADE OR CLASSROOM REPLACEMENT. THANKS. THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION. UH, QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS, MR. PANSKY? UM, THIS SCHOOL, I HAVEN'T SEEN A SCHOOL WITH THIS MUCH CEMENT IN A LONG TIME. UH, IS GREENING PART OF THE FUTURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL? I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THAT O'MELVENY IS EITHER A, IT DOES HAVE A PAY UP OR A GREEN SCHOOLYARD PROJECT. UM, IT HASN'T BEEN SCOPED YET AND IT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, TO BE, UH, MOVED FORWARD TO THE BOARD, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ON OUR LIST OKAY. TO RECEIVE A PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. AND ONE LAST QUESTION, UH, AND I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT I I JUST WANT TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION. THE FORECAST ON THE, UH, STUDENT ELIGIBILITY PROGRAM FOR THE, UH, SCHOOLS IS THESE NUMBERS ARE CURRENT AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AREN'T GONNA BE FINISHED UNTIL THE END OF 29. HOW ARE YOU FORECASTING WHAT THAT FUTURE STUDENT IS GOING TO BE? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, UM, DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT AGAIN? SURE. BECAUSE I'VE JUST, UH, IT'S, UH, DO YOU STILL UPGRADE WITH ALL THE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE? SO THE ELIGIBILITIES ARE BASED UPON STUDENT IEPS, AS YOU SAY, UH, CURRENTLY, RIGHT. SO THE REALITY IS, UH, YOU HAVE IEPS UNDER THE IDEA, UM, AND WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TRANSITION PLAN UNDER THE A DA. SO THEY'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DUELING, YOU KNOW, CIVIL RIGHTS, YOU KNOW, LAWS. SO, UM, YOU HAVE SECTION FIVE OH FOURS, YOU HAVE I, UM, IEPS. UM, THE REALITY IS, IS REGARDLESS OF STUDENTS CURRENTLY ON SITE RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH WHATEVER ELIGIBILITIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STUDENTS WITH OTHER ELIGIBILITIES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR WHAT IS, UM, EXPECTED TO BE, UM, READILY ACCESSIBLE WHEN A STUDENT ARRIVES ON CAMPUS. SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND THE TRANSITION PLAN. AND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE BRING TO YOU GUYS ON THE TRANSITION PLAN IS TO ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE THAT FOUNDATION OF A SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES THAT MATRICULATION PATTERN FOR KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 12TH GRADE. SO THEN THAT WAY STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST ACCESSIBLE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO GO, UM, TO GO TO, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, BUT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A MILE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, AWAY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, AND I'M AB BELIEVE ME, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF A DA COMPLIANCE. MM-HMM. THAT, THAT'S NOT WHERE MY, MY HEAD'S AT. IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO JUST GET MY HEAD AROUND THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND TO UPGRADE THESE SCHOOLS, NOT KNOWING THAT THERE MAY BE NOBODY WITH A DISABILITY ON THAT CAMPUS AT 2030, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 2040 OR 2035, THERE ARE MORE DISABILITIES AT THAT TIME THAT THE SCHOOL'S NOW ACCOMMODATING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WITH HOW IT, THE OTHER FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT RIGHT [01:45:01] NOW IS, IS, IS MAYBE IT'S A BOND QUESTION, IS THERE ENOUGH POCKET MONEY JUST FOR COMPLIANCE IN OUR BONDS TO COVER THESE WITHOUT OTHER GENERAL BOND DOLLARS THAT WE'RE APPROVING FOR ROOFS AND OTHER REPLACEMENTS? I THINK IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO UNDER THE A DA. SO, YOU KNOW, THE A DA EXPECTS THAT WE HAVE THOSE SCHOOLS THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT FOUNDATION. SO, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE TRANSITION PLAN, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE, ALONG WITH OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, UM, BASICALLY IT'S ABOUT 235 EXISTING FACILITY CAMPUSES ALONG WITH THE 131 NEW CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM. SO APPROXIMATELY 360, UM, PROJECTS WOULD MAKE UP THE FOUNDATION OF OUR ACCESSIBLE, UH, SCHOOLS PERCENTAGES THAT WE OWE THE GOVERNMENT UNDER PHASE, UNDER PHASE ONE. SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING TO, TO GET TO THAT POINT. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T ACHIEVED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN GET STUDENTS TO ACCESSIBLE CAMPUSES, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. UM, WE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROXIMATELY 150, YOU KNOW, EXISTING FACILITY CAMPUSES, YOU KNOW, THUS FAR. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO, TO DO THAT, TO GET US TO, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA WHERE WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, CAMPUSES THAT ARE READILY ACCESSIBLE, UM, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES BASICALLY OUR FEEDER CLUSTERS THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO IN EACH REGION, THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET LIKE THREE TO FOUR CLUSTERS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT MATRICULATE INTO ONE OR TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, INTO A HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW, TO DO. AND, UM, THIS IS JUST A PIECE, KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THIS DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS THAT HAVE SECTION 5 0 4 PLANS AS WELL THAT ALSO HAVE PHYSICAL DISABILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A A GREAT LITTLE CHART THAT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY STUDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR THAT OR WHAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE. IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE. THANK YOU. BEFORE I, UH, GO TO MS, UH, PERONI AND MS. LAMEER, I JUST ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR. SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WHILE, WHILE WE'RE BEING PRESENTED WITH NUMBERS HERE THAT, UH, SPEAK TO THE SORT OF NEED OR THE, THE TYPES OF, OF, OF NEED OF THE STUDENT POPULATION AT THIS TIME, WE'RE SELECTING THESE PROJECTS TO SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN SOME GEOGRAPHIC PROXIMITY TO OUR SCHOOL FAMILIES, SCHOOLS THAT ARE ABLE TO MEET THE, THE A DA NEEDS KNOWING THAT WE, WE CAN'T AND AREN'T ABLE TO UPGRADE ALL OF THE SCHOOLS IMMEDIATELY. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE SAYING THESE CLUSTERS, THIS CLUSTER CONCEPTS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, OKAY, IF YOU'RE IN THIS GEOGRAPHIC AREA, THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT MATRICULATES TO A JUNIOR HIGH THAT MATRICULATES TO A HIGH SCHOOL, SORRY, MIDDLE SCHOOL, I'M OLD. UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO THAT THERE'S ONE THAT'S SORT OF PROXIMATE TO WHERE OUR, OUR, OUR POPULATIONS ARE. YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. WHEN, WHEN WE WORKED WITH, WE BROUGHT A CONSULTANT IN WHO, WHO WORKED WITH US YEARS AGO, UH, WHO ACTUALLY HELPED WRITE THE A DA. AND WHEN SHE CAME OUT HERE AND SHE WALKED TO SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS, SHE WAS LIKE, WOW, WE, WE NEVER ENVISIONED A SCHOOL DISTRICT LIKE YOURS WHEN WE WROTE THE A DA. BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE MIDWEST OR THE EAST COAST SCHOOL DISTRICTS AREN'T BUILT WITH, YOU KNOW, 40 ACRE FACILITIES. THEY'RE, THEY GO UP AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO OUT TO THE VALLEY AND WE HAVE THESE SINGLE LEVEL BUILDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, 40 ACRE CAMPUSES, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE PLUS OVER A THOUSAND SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF EXISTING FACILITIES. YEAH. UH, MS. URCHIN, IT ALSO AVOIDS LAWSUITS. 100%. THANK YOU, MS. PERRAN. THANK YOU. UM, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE CATEGORIES. WHEN YOU IDENTIFIED THESE PROJECTS AND YOU, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORY ONE, CATEGORY TWO, CATEGORY THREE LOOKS LIKE, UH, SO NEVIN AND O'MELVENY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE CATEGORY THREE. SO THEY NEED THESE SERVICES OR, OR THIS, THESE UPGRADES JUST TO BRING THEM UP TO CATEGORY TWO, OR THEY WOULD STILL REMAIN CATEGORY THREE, SO THEY WOULD REMAIN CATEGORY THREE. UM, AND, [01:50:01] AND JUST JUST SO WE'RE ALL AWARE, SO O'MELVENY, WHILE IT'S A CRITICAL BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, O'MELVENY ACTUALLY HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH AN 80 80, A BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT ALREADY. SO WE HAVE DONE A, UH, UH, A CAMPUS-WIDE, A DA BARRIER REMOVAL OUT THERE ALREADY, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE NEED. THEY, WE DID A, UH, A RESTROOM RENOVATION CHANGING ROOM SPECIFICALLY FOR A PALS CLASSROOM, UM, AT THAT CAMPUS. BUT THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST HAS CAME IN, COME IN FOR A, UH, HIGHER LEVEL CLASS, UM, UH, GRADE LEVEL. UM, AND I BELIEVE IT'S LOCATED IN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, A BUNGALOW, JUST YOU KIND OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE CAMPUS THERE. UM, SO WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ACCESSIBILITY OUT AT O'MELVENY. SO THIS ONE IS, IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS REQUEST, BUT WHEN WE DO A CATEGORY THREE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING BASICALLY ACCESSIBLE ROUTES THROUGH THE EXTERIOR OF THE CAMPUS. WE'RE DOING, UM, ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE, UH, WE REFER TO AS THE, THE CORE SPACES, GETTING ACCESS TO COMPUTER LABS, UH, LIBRARIES, FOOD SERVICES, AUDITORIUMS, UM, IF I DIDN'T SAY IT ALREADY, LIBRARIES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. UM, WE MAY NOT BE PROVIDING ACCESS IN, INTO EVERY SINGLE CLASSROOM, OR I, I SHOULDN'T EVEN SAY EVERY SINGLE CLASSROOM, BUT, UM, INTO ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CATEGORY TWO AND THE, UH, CATEGORY THREE IS EXACTLY THAT. IT'S THE PROVIDING THE ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL PROGRAMS. SO WE DO HAVE THE, THE RAPID ACCESS, UH, REQUEST, UM, PROCESS. UM, SO IN A CATEGORY THREE SCENARIO, WE, WE ALREADY DID O'MELVENY, RIGHT? WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, A RAPID ACCESS COMES, YOU KNOW, ALONG LATER ON AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, CHANGING ROOM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, UH, NEEDED AT THE TIME. BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY MAY NEED ACCESS TO, LET'S SAY CLASSROOM 15. UM, AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT WORK AT THE TIME, UM, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND BE ABLE TO GET A, A WORK ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, WORK PERFORMED, YOU KNOW, FOR DOOR HARDWARE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF A DOOR OR WHATEVER. SO THEN, JUST TAKING WHAT YOU JUST SAID, SO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST THAT THE CAMPUSES ARE IDENTIFIED AS CATEGORY TWO AND IN PARTICULAR, UM, HALE AND HUBBARD THAT HAVE THE LARGEST WELL, YEAH. AND OVERLAND THAT HAVE THE LARGEST, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. WOULD THAT WORK MAKE THEM CATEGORY ONE SITES NOW? OR THEY'LL STILL STAY AT CATEGORY TWO? NO, THEY'RE GONNA BE CATEGORY TWO, JUST SO YOU KNOW. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A CATEGORY ONE SCHOOL, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, THE 131 NEW CONSTRUCTION SCHOOLS, THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY LIKE A CATEGORY ONE A SCHOOL, RIGHT? AND A CATEGORY ONE B SCHOOL IS WHEN, WHEN WE'VE BROUGHT THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE MODERNIZATION PROJECTS FORWARD, THE MAJOR MODERNIZATION PROJECTS, UM, IF YOU KNOW THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS, THOSE ARE YOUR CATEGORY ONE SCHOOLS, IF, IF I MAY, YES. SO WHEN IT LISTS THEIR CATEGORY TWO FOR HAIL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR. THEY'RE NOT AT A CATEGORY TWO NOW. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS PROJECT, IS GETTING THEM TO A CATEGORY TWO, WHERE THAT, WHERE ALL OF THEIR CORE FACILITIES AS WELL AS ALL OF THEIR PROGRAMS, MEANING THEIR GRADE LEVELS, ET CETERA, WILL BE ACCESSIBLE. BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT. AND I'M SORRY, YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED THIS IN AS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION. SO THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, YOU'RE STRIVING TO GET THEM TO CATEGORY TWO, WHAT'S THE AGE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OF THOSE PROJECTS APPROXIMATELY? WELL, I, I, WELL, WHEN YOU SAY INFRASTRUCTURE, WE, IN OTHER WORDS, THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS THERE, OR THAT YOU'RE UPGRADING, IS IT LIKE FROM 50 YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE THE, OH, YEAH, THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE THE AGE OF THE BUILDINGS. THANK YOU, KEN. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. OH, WRONG WAY. SO YEAH, ON THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING DATES RANGE FROM 19 FOR HALE SPECIFICALLY 1963 TO 2010, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE RANGE FOR THE OTHERS. GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DO WE? OH, I'M SORRY, MR. MCFARLAND. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS ABOUT O'MELVENY, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO ADDRESS THE A DA ISSUES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WITH ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A VERY SHORT DISTANCE AWAY, AND WITH THE ENROLLMENT AS IT IS THAT IT WOULD BE A CANDIDATE FOR SOME SORT OF CONSOLIDATION OR SOME SORT OF CHANGES JUST CONSIDERING [01:55:01] THE PROXIMITY TO SAN FERNANDO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I'M WONDERING HOW THAT FACTORS INTO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR THIS, OR IF WE'RE LIKE, KIND OF THIS IS LIKE BEFORE WE'RE AT THAT STAGE? YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK TO, I'LL LET KEN SPEAK TO THE PROJECT ITSELF IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFICS OF WHY WE'RE BUILDING IT. BUT IN TERMS OF THE ENROLLMENT, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY WHEN WE LOOK AT EACH OF THESE CAMPUSES, WE ARE LOOKING AT, THERE'S NO SET NUMBER MINIMUM. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT A 308 STUDENT CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THERE'S VALIDITY THAT THAT CAMPUS WILL CONTINUE TO PROSPER GOING FORWARD. DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO JUST THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF? YEAH. AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROJECT IN, IN IN PARTICULAR? I, I MEAN I HAVE A, A, A GROUP OF STUDENTS SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THIS CRITICAL BARRIER REMOVAL THAT IS IN NEED OF, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGING, UM, THE CHANGING ROOM. NOW, THE QUESTION, DID I, I BELIEVE, UH, MR. CAMPBELL BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING CURRENTLY FOR, FOR THESE, UH, KIT? UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE INTERIM SOLUTIONS IN PLACE. UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S AN IDEAL, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, SOLUTION, UM, I'M NOT SURE. UM, WE HAVE DONE AN A DA BARRIER REMOVAL PROJECT ALREADY AT THIS CAMPUS, UM, DATING BACK I THINK ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. UM, SO WE, WE DO HAVE SOME ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES OUT THERE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE, UH, INTERIM SOLUTIONS. UM, BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, I, YOU KNOW, IDEAL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CHANGING NEEDS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE STUDENTS IN QUESTION, IT'S PROBABLY, UM, A STUDENT WITH AN MDO OR AN ORTHOPEDIC IMPAIRMENT, UM, UNDER DIVISION OF SPECIAL ED, AND WE'RE GETTING INTO AN AREA WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO FORCE THEM TO GO TO ANOTHER CAMPUS, UM, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS WAS A CAMPUS THAT THEIR PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY, UM, AT AND THAT WAS THE, UM, THE PROGRAM OFFERED IN THEIR IEP. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S THE LEGAL, YOU KNOW, OBLIGATION, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE, UH, LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THOSE STUDENTS AT THAT LOCATION EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT DELIVERING LIKELY THAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THOSE STUDENTS UNTIL 2029. WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN, I CAN GO OUT TO THE SCHOOL AND LOOK AT WHAT THE SPECIFIC INTERIM SOLUTION IS. UM, I DO KNOW THAT WE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES OUT THERE. 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE THE, UM, THE PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE SPECIFIC SCOPE OF WORK, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, ANY DESIGN THAT WE, YOU KNOW, MAY BE LOOKING TO, TO DO FOR THIS. UM, SO I MEAN, MY EXPECTATION IS, IS THAT THE INTERIM SOLUTION WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE ACCEPTABLE, BUT JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT ROUGHLY WHAT WE PAY FOR A DSA APPROVED PORTABLE STANDARD CLASSROOM THESE DAYS? THE BUILDING ITSELF? YEAH, LIKE IF WE WERE JUST, IF WE NEEDED A NEW DSA PORTABLE, LIKE YEAH, I'D HAVE, I MEAN THERE'S THE COST OF THE PORTABLE ITSELF AND THAT'S PROBABLY A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT THEN THE, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE SITE AND THE, THE COST TO BRING IT IN AND THE UTILITIES, ET CETERA, AND THE TOTAL PROJECT COST, IT COULD BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT. BUT I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. UM, YEAH. 'CAUSE SO WE'RE PUTTING THIS IMPROVEMENT IN A PORTABLE, AND IT'S PROBABLY THREE AND THE IMPROVEMENT IS PROBABLY THREE TIMES THE COST OF A NEW PORTABLE, NOT INCLUDING THE SITE WORK AND STUFF. AGAIN, THAT'S JUST THE BUILDING ONLY, RIGHT? SURE. SO THE, THE PROJECT COST WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE IF YOU TRIED TO, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS, WHICH IS IF YOU BROUGHT IN A PORTABLE OR PORTABLE RESTROOM, WOULD IT BE CHEAPER? THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO. YEAH, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO THE, THE PROJECT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A FULL FLEDGE ALTERATION, WHICH WOULD THEN TRIGGER A DA UPGRADES ON TOP OF THAT PATH OF TRAVEL AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH SURE, SURE. AND, AND O'MELVENY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS FROM YOU FOR 26, 27 CURRENT ENROLLMENT OF 3 0 8 19% ENROLLMENT DECLINE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THEN ANOTHER 4% FROM 25 26 TO 26, 27. SO 23% TOTAL DECLINE OVER OVER SIX YEARS. UM, I JUST NOTE THAT, UM, BASED ON THE NUMBERS PRESENTED HERE, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS ON THESE PROJECTS, MS. PERAN? UH, NOT A QUESTION, BUT I DID WANT TO, UH, JUST IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID IT, BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE PROVEN THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN, UH, THE CHART, THE STUDENT ELIGIBILITY BY PROGRAM AT THE SCHOOLS AS FAR AS AMALIE IS CONCERNED, LOOKS LIKE ONE THIRD OF THEIR STUDENT POPULATION IS, IS IDENTIFIED AS DISABLED AND WOULD NEED THESE SERVICES AT [02:00:01] ESSENTIALLY. SO THAT CREATES NO QUESTION ABOUT THE NEED. YEAH, THAT, THAT NONE FOR ME ANYWAY. THAT CREATES A CONUNDRUM IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT COST BENEFIT AND ALL OF THAT. SO, NO, I THINK THAT PUTS A REALLY FINE POINT ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE, THE COMPETING ISSUES THAT ARE FACING THE DISTRICT AND MAKING THESE DECISIONS. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE IT. MOVE BY MS. PERONE. I'LL SECOND. SECONDED BY MR. SULLIVAN. MR. POPE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU. MR. CAMPBELL. MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, FIVE ACCESSIBILITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECTS, MS. LANG. AYE. THANK YOU MS. LATHE. AYE. MS. MUELLER? AYE. MS. LEWIS? AYE. THANK YOU MS. GEN. UH, MS. MCDOWELL? AYE. THANK YOU MS. PERONE. AYE. MR. PETERSON? AYE. MR. SULLIVAN? AYE. MR. MCFARLAND? AYE. MR. PENSKI? AYE. MR. CAMPBELL? AYE, UH, THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 11 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS OUR LAST VOTING ITEM. THE REMAINING ITEMS ARE, UM, INFORMATIONAL IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND SO NEXT UP THAT BRINGS, UH, ITEM [8. ITS BOC Quarterly Program Status Report (July 1 – September 30) (Information Only)] NUMBER EIGHT, THE ITS QUARTERLY REPORT, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE MONICA NOLAN, DIRECTOR OF IT PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR A PRESENTATION. MS. NOLAN? YES. HI, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MONICA NOLAN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF IT PROJECT MANAGEMENT. UH, BEFORE I PRESENT TO YOU OUR BOC QUARTERLY REPORT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO INTRODUCE LAD'S, NEW CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER, MR. JACK KALANICK, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME HIM TO THE PODIUM TO SAY A FEW WORDS. WELCOME AND, UH, NOW GOOD AFTERNOON, . YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY GOOD MORNING. I'LL START WITH, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, MR. CAMPBELL AND MEMBERS OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JACK LANNICK AND I AM THE INCOMING CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER, UH, FOR THE DISTRICT. I'M ABOUT THREE AND A HALF WEEKS ON THE JOB, SO, UH, JUST, UH, GETTING UP TO SPEED RIGHT NOW. BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF MY PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF QUICKLY. I WAS TRAINED AS AN ENGINEER, I THINK THERE ARE SOME ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS IN THIS ROOM. AND, UM, BUT DEVELOPED A TE, A PASSION FOR TECHNOLOGY, UH, IN KIND OF THE FIRST GENERATION OF THE INTERNET. AND I'VE BEEN, UH, COMMITTED TO TECHNOLOGY FOR THE LAST 25 PLUS YEARS OF MY CAREER. UM, I PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN LA UNIFIED, UM, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 15, UH, YEARS AND VARIOUS CAPACITIES, BUT, UM, I DID, UH, AT ONE POINT LEAD THE ENTERPRISE APPLICATIONS TEAM. AND AT A SEPARATE POINT I LED THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES TEAM, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH HERE. UM, I'VE ALSO SERVED IN A-C-I-O-C-T-O CAPACITY IN THREE OTHER, UH, LARGE ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CITY OF TACOMA, WASHINGTON, UM, DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND MOST RECENTLY LONG BEACH UNIFIED. UM, AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT MY TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PLANNING AND EXECUTING A SIGNIFICANT PORTFOLIO OF TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. UM, AND OF COURSE WE TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY. UH, I LOOK WORK, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN THAT REGARD. AND SO MONICA NOLAN WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE REGULAR UPDATES ON OUR PROGRESS. UM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT SOON, UM, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT I'M ACCESSIBLE. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY FEEDBACK OR ANYTHING THAT, UH, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, UH, TO SUPPORT YOUR WORK. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I WOULD HAND IT, UH, BACK TO MS. NOLAN FOR HER REPORT. WELL, THANK YOU. PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU BACK. I GUESS IF THIS IS A RETURN TRIP TO YOU FOR THE, TO THE DISTRICT. YES, SIR. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I, I, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU IN THE FUTURE. UM, THERE, THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST, UH, HERE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF, OF IT, UH, TO STUDENT SUCCESS AND, AND, AND OUR CAMPUSES AND THE LARGE AMOUNT OF BOND FUNDS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE PURPOSES. UM, THAT THERE'S NO, NO SHORTAGE OF MEMBER INTEREST HERE IN, IN THOSE PROJECTS AND UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT THEM. SO, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, SO TODAY I WILL BE PRESENTING THE BOC QUARTERLY REPORT FOR Q3 2026, WHICH COVERS JULY 1ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. AND TODAY I HAVE SEVEN IMPORTANT PROJECT UPDATES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL COVER THOSE [02:05:01] AT THE END. OUR FIRST UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT AND IS FOR THE AUDIO VISUAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM MODERNIZATION AT MARTON SCHOOL. THIS PROJECT MODERNIZES THE AUDIO VISUAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AT MARTON SCHOOL, WHICH INCLUDES INTEGRATION OF THE NEW SYSTEM WITH THE SCHOOL'S LOCAL AREA AND WIRELESS LOCAL AREA NETWORKS. IN Q3 2026, THE PROJECT TEAM SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED AND WENT LIVE WITH THE AUDIO VISUAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. THEY ALSO COMPLETED STAFF TRAINING ON THE NEW SYSTEM AND THEY ARE NOW ENGAGED IN FINE TUNING AND STABILIZATION OF THE SYSTEM TO CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT. OUR NEXT UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 11 AND IS FOR THE INTELLIGENCE SCHOOL NETWORK CONTROLS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT ONCE IMPLEMENTED, WILL ENABLE SMART INTERNET ENABLED EDUCATIONAL AND OPERATIONAL DIGITAL DEVICES TO CONNECT TO THE DISTRICT'S K THROUGH 12 SCHOOLS NETWORKS QUICKLY AND SECURELY IN Q3 2026. THE PROJECT TEAM COMPLETED STABILIZATION OF THE SYSTEM AND WILL BEGIN THE CLOSEOUT PROCESS IN Q4 2026. OUR NEXT UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 13 AND IS FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROJECT. THIS PROJECT MODERNIZES THE DISTRICT'S RADIO SYSTEM BY REPLACING OBSOLETE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREATES A SINGLE UNIFIED SYSTEM THAT ENABLES IMPROVED COMMUNICATIONS FOR SCHOOLS, SCHOOL, POLICE, TRANSPORTATION, AND EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. IN Q3 2026, THE PROJECT TEAM CONTINUED WORK ON THE PROCUREMENT OF THE RAPID DEPLOYMENT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. ADDITIONAL LEGAL REVIEW HAS BEEN NEEDED AND HAS EXTENDED THE PROCUREMENT TIMELINE. HOWEVER, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THIS PROJECT WILL, UH, COMPLETE ON TIME. OUR NEXT UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 14 AND IS FOR THE SCHOOL NETWORK ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE CONNECTIVITY PILOT PROJECT. THIS PILOT, UH, IS FOR A DARK FIBER RING ACROSS 44 SCHOOL SITES TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE CONNECTION TO THE INTERNET. THE RING INTERCONNECT SCHOOLS TO EACH OTHER USING FIBER OPTIC CABLING, PROVIDING ALTERNATE PATHS TO THE INTERNET. INSTEAD OF A SINGLE POINT WHICH COULD BE INTERRUPTED. IN Q3 2026, A VENDOR WAS SELECTED TO PROVIDE THE PROJECT SOLUTION. THE TIMELINE FOR PROCUREMENT HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO COMPLETE IN Q1 2027 INSTEAD OF Q3 2026 TO ALLOW FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND BOARD APPROVAL. THE SUBSEQUENT PROJECT ACTIVITIES HAVE SHIFTED OUT BY ONE QUARTER TO ACCOMMODATE PROCUREMENT, BUT THE PROJECT IS STILL ANTICIPATED TO COMPLETE ON SCHEDULE. OUR NEXT UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 18 AND IS FOR THE SCHOOL NETWORK SYSTEMS UPGRADE PROJECT PHASE TWO, UH, GROUP FIVE, WHICH IS AT, WHICH IS 133 SITES. THIS PROJECT REPLACES OBSOLETE END OF LIFE AND FAILING NETWORK TELEPHONE AND PUBLIC ADDRESS EQUIPMENT TO MODERNIZE TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS FOR, FOR Q3 2026. THE PROJECT TEAM COMPLETED WORK AT ONE SITE, WHICH IS SHY OF THE 16 SITE TARGET. THE LOCAL AREA NETWORK, WIRELESS LOCAL AREA NETWORK FIBER COMPONENT OF COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT HAS EXPERIENCED EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES RESULTING IN SLOWER PROGRESS THAN ORIGINALLY PLANNED. THERE IS CURRENTLY A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE IN THE FORM OF SHORTAGES AND VENDOR DELIVERY PRIORITIZATION FOR THE LAN AND WLAN EQUIPMENT. THIS ISSUE IS ANTICIPATED TO PERSIST ACROSS THE COMING QUARTERS, BUT THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO RECOVER AND, UH, BE COMPLETED BY THE CURRENT PROJECT END DATE. AND, UH, WE HAVE A FINAL NOTE. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW PROJECTS THAT COMPLETED THEIR CLOSEOUT PROCESS IN Q3 2026. THESE PROJECTS WILL FALL OFF THE REPORT NEXT QUARTER AS THEY ARE DONE. UM, THE FIRST PROJECT IS ON SLIDE 15, I'M SORRY TO GO BACK. THERE WE GO. UM, THIS IS THE SCHOOL NETWORK SYSTEMS UPGRADE PROJECT PHASE ONE, GROUP TWO, WHICH IS 108 SITES. THIS PROJECT REPLACED OBSOLETE END OF LIFE AND FAILING NETWORK TELEPHONE AND PUBLIC ADDRESS EQUIPMENT TO MODERNIZE TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS AT 108 SITES. AND THE OTHER PROJECT IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 20. IT IS THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND NETWORK UPGRADES AT 83 SCHOOLS PROJECT. AND THIS PROJECT REPLACED FAILING AND OBSOLETE TELEPHONE NETWORK AND PUBLIC ADDRESS [02:10:01] SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT AT 83 SCHOOL SITES TO IMPROVE SCHOOL SITE COMMUNICATIONS AND SAFETY. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE Q3 2026 BOC QUARTERLY REPORT FOR JULY 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF OUR PROJECTS? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS? A QUESTION UNRELATED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL EVEN BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT TODAY, BUT MAYBE FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO BRING BACK, UH, FOR THE DISTRICT'S PLAN FOR AI GOING FORWARD, UH, AS YOU NOW HAVE A NEW TECH LEAD, AND WE KNOW THE FAILURE THAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAST AI CONTRACT. UM, WHAT IS THE FUTURE PLAN FOR AI? BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT, UH, WE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR IT UPGRADES, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO. AND NOW, UH, WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF AI AND, AND CENTERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I'M CURIOUS WHAT L-A-U-S-D STANCE IS. WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY BOND FUNDED PROJECTS THAT, UH, INVOLVE AI. UM, WELCOME. LET ME WELCOME HIM BACK. ? YES. THANK YOU. I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S OFF TOPIC FROM THE REPORT. THANK AND THANK YOU, MONICA. UM, YES. SO MONICA'S CORRECT. THERE IS NO, WE HAVE NO, UM, BOND FUNDED AI INITIATIVES, AND WE, TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN BUILDING AI INFRASTRUCTURE ON PREMISE. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE BOARD HAS A COMMITTEE THAT IS WORKING ON AI AND THEY ARE INTENDED TO SET, I THINK, THE HIGH LEVEL POLICY FOR WHERE THE DISTRICT IS GOING ON AI. AND THEN BEHIND THAT, THERE ARE SEVERAL WORK GROUPS THAT ARE CONVENING NOW TO DEVELOP KIND OF THE INTERNAL GOVERNANCE, IF YOU WILL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERNAL POLICIES, THE INTERNAL PROCEDURES, HOW WE VET AND VALIDATE AI TOOLS, WHERE THEY BELONG IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AND WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE USE AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THERE ARE VARIOUS WORK GROUPS, UH, ENGAGED AT THIS POINT. UM, BUT WE'RE STILL, I, UM, THAT'S STILL PRETTY MUCH, IT'S STILL VERY MUCH WORK IN DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE A WAY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ONE OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SOMEBODY CAN BE IN SOME OF THOSE EDUCATION PROGRAMS OR COMMITTEES TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS IS HEADED? BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES LAST TIME, UH, WAS THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION ZERO, AND THAT WE ASKED QUESTIONS OF YOUR IT TEAM. AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THAT. UH, AND EVERY SINGLE TIME, THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IS THE SUPERINTENDENT. SO AT, AT THIS CASE IS WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH AND THE DISTRICT'S GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH AI. UH, IT'D BE NICE THAT WE WERE KEPT IN THE LOOP EARLIER INSTEAD OF FINDING OUT THINGS AT THE LAST MINUTE WHEN IT'S A REQUEST. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT INPUT. THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS? MR. SULLIVAN? UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MONICA. I AM, I SAY THIS OFTEN, BUT VERY IMPRESSED WITH JUST HOW YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF ALL THESE PROJECTS. IT'S A LOT, UM, EVEN FOR ME TO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE SAME THING OVER, IT'S A LOT GOING ON. SO, UM, MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, IS SIMPLY JUST WHAT, UH, WHAT, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE LITTLE MORE ON THE, THE SUPPLY ISSUES THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING, UH, AS TO WHAT TYPE OF ITEMS AND, AND HOW THAT'S HOLDING THINGS UP? AND IF THERE ARE ANY BACKUP PLANS WHEN YOU HIT THOSE SUPPLY ISSUES, IS THERE ANOTHER SUPPLIER TO TURN TO? COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON THAT? SO, FOR OUR NET NETWORK EQUIPMENT, SPECIFICALLY OUR LOCAL AREA NETWORK AND OUR WIRELESS LOCAL AREA NETWORK EQUIPMENT, WE ARE HAVING TO COMPETE, COMPETE WITH, UM, THE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AS WELL AS THE COMPONENTS ARE USED IN, UM, EQUIPMENTS THAT ARE USED IN THE CURRENT, UH, CONFLICTS THAT THE, THE NATION IS ENGAGED IN. AND SO WE ARE NOT RECEIVING THE PRIORITIZATION TO RECEIVE THAT EQUIPMENT AT THIS TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM, [9. Incurred Cost Audit of Impex Technologies, Inc. for Data Center Equipment and Related Services (Information Only)] UH, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION FROM OUR, UH, OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL ON AN AUDIT THAT THEY DID, UH, LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AND, UM, UH, I, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PRUDENT IF WE CONTINUE ITEMS 10 AND 11, THE GREENING REPORT AND THE CFE REPORT TO THE NEXT MEETING. UH, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE FOLKS THAT, UH, ARE WAITING AND, AND MAY WANNA, UM, AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THAT FOUND TIME. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, [02:15:01] UM, YOUR, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE SCHEDULE THERE. UM, AND WITH THAT, UH, MR. MARGRAVE, UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. HELLO, MY NAME'S JOSH MARKGRATH. FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T MET ME YET, I ALSO HAVE MY TEAM WITH ME. THEY COMPLETED THE AUDIT REPORT. WE HAVE MARIA THOMAS, THE AUDIT MANAGER, ARMANDO ING, PRINCIPAL AUDITOR, AND JACKIE RAZ, SENIOR AUDITOR. THEY'RE GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE FINDINGS. UM, AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING US PRESENT. WE RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT AT THE END OF AUGUST, AUGUST 31ST. UM, WE ALSO EXTENDED THE COURTESY TO PRESENT TODAY TO ITS AND PSD AS THOSE ARE THE OFFICES. OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GEARED TOWARDS. UM, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT ITS MAY PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THIS CONTRACT AT A LATER DATE. IF SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT OIG ATTEND AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, OUR PREFERENCE IS TO TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE SLIDES, BUT IF THERE'S A BURNING NEED TO JUMP IN AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN IN WITH QUESTIONS. UM, WE'RE GOING TO JUST START WITH THE BACKGROUND AND SOME SUMMARIZATIONS OF WHAT WE FOUND RELATED TO THE CONTRACT, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH FINDING INDIVIDUALLY. SO ON THAT NOTE, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MARIA THOMAS, OUR AUDIT MANAGER. GOOD AFTERNOON BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I WILL FIRST GO THROUGH THE CONCLUSION, THEN GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT. THEN I'M GONNA GO BACK AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT WHY THIS AUDIT WAS PERFORMED, AS WELL AS A BACKGROUND ON THE CONTRACT AND OUR AUDIT OBJECTIVES. THEN I WILL PASS IT OVER TO OUR PRINCIPAL AUDITOR WHO WILL GO INTO THE DETAILED FINDINGS, OUR AUDIT CONCLUSION. UM, SO OUR AUDIT IDENTIFIED BOTH POSITIVE ITEMS AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DISTRICT TO STRENGTHEN SOME OF THE INTERNAL CONTROLS. OUR TESTING CONFIRMED THAT, UM, EQUIPMENT REVIEWED WAS ACTUALLY RECEIVED, APPLICABLE DISCOUNTS WERE APPLIED, AND ALSO THE INVOICES BILLED WERE PAID CORRECTLY. AT THE SAME TIME, WE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, SPECIFICALLY, UM, IN THE AREAS OF PROCUREMENT, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, PRICING, VERIFICATION, SURPLUS PROPERTY, AND PREPAYMENTS. WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH OUR AUDIT VALIDATED SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROCESSES, UM, THE REALITY IS THAT SOME OF THESE PROCESSES SUPPORTING THE TRANSACTIONS DID NOT CONSISTENTLY PROVIDE THE ASSURANCE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT OF TRANSACTIONS OF THE SIGNIFICANCE. SPECIFICALLY, STRONGER CONTROLS ARE NEEDED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, TRANSACTIONS ARE AUTHORIZED, CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, AND PRICING IS INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT'S INTEREST, UM, BEING ADEQUATELY PROTECTED. HERE WE HAVE A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT. FIRST, LET'S START WITH WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM. THROUGH OUR TESTING, WE VERIFIED THAT THE DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT WE REVIEWED WAS RECEIVED AND INSTALLED. WE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT IMPACTS APPLIED THE APPLICABLE DISCOUNT RATES ON THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES THAT WE TESTED. WE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT THE AMOUNTS BILLED ON THREE SELECTED INVOICES MATCHED THE PAYMENTS MADE BY THE DISTRICT. WHILE THOSE RESULTS WERE POSITIVE, WE ALSO IDENTIFIED SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. SPECIFICALLY, WE FOUND THAT CERTAIN PURCHASES FELL OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT. WE ALSO IDENTIFIED AN EQUIPMENT TRADING ARRANGEMENT THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD. IN ADDITION, WE WERE UNABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY SOME OF THE ACCURACY OF CERTAIN AMOUNTS, WHICH RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADEQUACY OF IT'S PRICING VERIFICATION PROCESS. LASTLY, WE FOUND THAT ITS PREPAID THREE YEARS OF MANAGEMENT AND HOSTING SERVICES THAT HAD NOT RECEIVED THE REQUIRED BOARD APPROVAL AND DID NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE POLICIES TAKEN TOGETHER. THESE FINDINGS POINT TO WEAKNESSES IN THE PROCESSES USED TO AUTHORIZE, MANAGE AND OVERSEE THESE TRANSACTIONS. LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. SO WE HAVE MORE THAN 6.7 MILLION IN MANAGEMENT AND HOSTING SERVICES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT. WE ALSO FOUND THAT 750,000 OF TRADING EQUIPMENT THAT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED MORE THAN $12 MILLION [02:20:01] IN PRIVATE AND CLOUD SYSTEMS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT TERMS. AND FINALLY, MORE THAN $4 MILLION IN PREPAYMENTS WERE MADE FOR THREE YEARS WORTH OF SERVICES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT. EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY ONE THING? YES. WHEN YOU SAID SERVICES WERE PREPAID, UH, WHICH BUCKET DID THAT FALL INTO? DID THAT FALL INTO THE MANAGEMENT AND HOSTING SERVICES? YES. YES, IT WAS. THANK YOU. NOW, UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER QUICKLY ABOUT HOW THIS AUDIT WAS CONDUCTED. AS YOU GUYS ARE, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CONDUCTS CONTRACT AUDITS IN THE PAST. AND THESE PRIMARILY PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY COMPLIANCE WITH CONTRACT LAWS AND REGULATIONS AS WELL AS TERMS AND CONDITIONS. AND THEY ALSO PROPOSE, UM, ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE EXECUTION AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONTRACTS. THIS SPECIFIC CONTRACT WAS SELECTED IN BIG PART BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE, UH, DATA ANALYSIS THAT ARE AUDIT AND SPECIAL SERVICES UNIT CONDUCTED. UM, THE RESULTS OF THIS DATA ANALYSIS WAS CONSIDERED DURING OUR ANNUAL RISK ASSESSMENT PROCESS, ALONG WITH OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE USUALLY CONSIDER DURING THIS PROCESS, INCLUDING, UM, WHETHER THE CONTRACTOR IS RELATIVELY NEW TO THE DISTRICT AND HASN'T GONE THROUGH AN AUDIT IN THE PAST. QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE CONTRACT, AS OF AUGUST, 2025, THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 23 MILLION PAID TO IMPACTS. AS MENTIONED, THREE INVOICES WERE SELECTED FOR TESTING. THESE TOTALED APPROXIMATELY $14 MILLION OUT OF WHICH 10 MILLION. APPROXIMATELY 10 MILLION WERE, UM, BOND FUNDED. THIS CONTRACT WAS PART OF 13 IT CONTRACTS THAT HAD AN AGGREGATE CAPACITY OF $250,000,250 MILLION. THE INITIAL CONTRACT TERM WAS 36 MONTHS WITH TWO 12 MONTH OPTION RENEWALS. THE CONTRACT PURPOSE WAS TO PROCURE DELL DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT AND RELATED SERVICES. I WON'T GO THROUGH THE DETAILS OR THE KEY DATES AND FUNDING. YOU GUYS HAVE THOSE FOR REFERENCE. UM, I'LL QUICKLY GO OVER THE SCOPE OF OBJECTIVES AND METHODOLOGY. SO THE SCOPE INITIALLY WAS INVOICES BILLED UNDER THIS CONTRACT FROM INITIATION THROUGH JULY 31ST, 2025. HOWEVER, GIVEN OUR OFFICES' FUNDING AND THE LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF GENERAL FUNDS, WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO REVIEW THREE INVOICES. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I, THE OBJECTIVES WERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT AND RELATED SERVICES WERE ALLOWED UNDER THE CONTRACT AND DELIVERED ALSO TO DETERMINE WHETHER BILL AMOUNTS WERE ACCURATE AND REFLECTED CORRECT MANUFACTURER'S PRICES AND DISCOUNTS. AND FINALLY, TO DETERMINE WHETHER INVOICES WERE ACCURATELY PAID IN ORDER TO COMPLETE, UM, TO MEET THESE OBJECTIVES, WE HAVE AUDIT PROCEDURES. THE METHODOLOGY INCLUDED, BUT WAS NOT LIMITED TO REVIEWING CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS, PURCHASE ORDERS, UM, QUOTES, UM, PERCENTAGE DISCOUNT RATES, JUST TO NAME A FEW. ALSO, WE RE WE VERIFIED RECEIPT AND INSTALLATION OF THE EQUIPMENT BY GOING TO THE ACTUAL SITES AND VALIDATING THAT. AND FINALLY, WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS WITH I-T-S-P-S-C AND IMPACTS. NOW I'LL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO OUR PRINCIPAL AUDITOR, ARMANDO ENG, WHO LED THE AUDIT AND CONDUCTED THE AUDIT AS WELL, UM, ALONG WITH JACKIE HARRIS, AND HE WILL GO OVER THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. UM, I'LL GO OVER THE FIRST FINDING. THE FIRST FINDING RELATES TO PURCHASE SERVICES. DURING OUR AUDIT, WE REVIEWED THREE INVOICES THAT WERE PARTIALLY OR FULLY PAID THROUGH BOND FUNDS. AND IN THOSE INVOICES, WE FOUND THAT IT HAD PURCHASED FIVE YEARS OF DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT MANAGEMENT AND HOSTING SERVICES, UH, AND A TOTAL OVER SIX AND A HALF MILLION. AND THOSE EQUIPMENT ARE CURRENTLY HOSTED AT A THIRD PARTY CO-LOCATION FACILITY. UM, AND WE FOUND THAT THAT TRANSACTION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BID OR THE CONTRACT, THEREFORE, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN COMPETITIVE BID OR AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD, UH, IN THE, UH, THIRD PARTY AGREEMENTS. SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT LATER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO FOUND, UH, UNENFORCEABLE RIGHTS AND REMEDIES, UH, IN EVENT OF DISRUPTION OR, OR, OR THERE'S A SLOW DOWN IN THE NETWORK. UH, AS FAR AS WHY IT OCCURRED, UH, IT OCCURRED BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT ITTS, UM, HAD INEFFECTIVE CONTROLS OVER [02:25:01] CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS THE REQUEST FOR PURCHASE ORDERS. AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT FOUND INEFFECTIVE CONTROLS OVER, UH, PROCUREMENT SERVICES REVIEW OF THOSE PURCHASE ORDER REQUESTS AND THE ISSUANCE OF THOSE PRECIOUS ORDERS. UH, WE, AND REGARD TO THE UNENFORCEABLE, RIGHT, WE FOUND THAT, UH, THE REVIEW OF THOSE CONTRACT LANGUAGES WAS LACKING. UH, SO WITH THAT SAID, OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY FOCUS ON IMPROVING THOSE PROCESSES. SO WE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENT IN CONTROLS OVER ITS CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND PURCHASE ORDER REQUESTS. WE ALSO RECOMMENDED PSD, UH, TO, TO IMPROVE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEIR CONTROL OVER THE REVIEW OF THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS. AND FOR OUR FINDING, NUMBER TWO RELATES TO SURPLUS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY TRADING. DURING OUR REVIEW OF THOSE, UH, THREE INVOICES, WE ALSO FOUND A TRADING ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN ITS, UH, AND UH, IMPACTS. UH, WHEREAS THE DISTRICT WOULD AGREE TO TRADE IN EXISTING THAT AS AN EQUIPMENT DEEMED AS SURPLUS PROPERTY FOR A CREDIT OF $750,000. AND WE FOUND THAT THAT TRANSACTION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BID OR THE CONTRACT. THEREFORE, IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AS WELL, WHETHER IT OCCURRED. WE FOUND THAT, UM, ITS AND PSD POLICY AND PROCEDURES DID NOT ADDRESS DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT. THE POLICY ADDRESSES MOSTLY COMPUTER DEVICES SUCH AS LAPTOP, MONITOR, DESKTOP AND SO FORTH. AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN PROCUREMENT AND ITS WAST CLEARLY DEFINED WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS KIND OF, UH, UH, SURPLUS PROPERTY. SO THERE MIGHT BEEN A GAP THERE. THEREFORE, OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY FOCUS ON ONE, DEFINING RESPONSIBILITIES, WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS TYPE OF SURPLUS PROPERTY, UH, AND AS WELL AS UPDATING POLICY AND PROCEDURE, PROVIDING TRAINING TO STAFF. AND WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THEY REVIEW THIS ARRANGEMENT, UH, TO DETERMINE IF CORRECT ACTION, ACTION IS NEEDED. AND OUR NEXT FINDING NUMBER THREE RELATES TO THE PURCHASE OF DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT. DURING, AGAIN, DURING OUR REVIEW OF PURCHASE ORDERS AND THE THREE INVOICES, WE FOUND THAT ITS PURCHASED A PRIVATE, OR I WOULD SAY A CUSTOM CLOUD SYSTEM, UH, FOR OVER 12 AND A HALF MILLION. WE COULD NOT LOCATE THE SYSTEM OR THE COMPONENTS IN THE, UH, MANUFACTURER PRICING LIST. UH, THEREFORE WE COULDN'T DETERMINE WHETHER IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT OR NOT, RIGHT? IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT, THEN IT, IT, IT WASN'T APPROVED. UM, NOW I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS PURCHASE WAS CATEGORIZED AS A NON-SPECIFICALLY PRICED ITEM UNDER THE CONTRACT. AND TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF NSP OR NON-SPECIFICALLY APPLIES PRICE. ADAM. UH, THEY NEED TO MEET TWO CRITERIA, TWO MAIN CRITERIA. ONE IS IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE PRICING LIST, WHICH WE COULDN'T CONFIRM THAT IT WAS IN THE PRICING LIST, AND ALSO NEEDS TO BE BE AT OR BELOW THE STATE COMPETITIVE BILL LIMIT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE, AT THE TIME, THE, UH, BILL LIMIT WAS ABOUT 109,000. SO TOWARDS 12 AND A HALF MILLION IS ABOUT A HUNDRED TIMES THAT LIMIT. UH, WHETHER IT OCCURRED. AGAIN, WE FOUND INEFFECTIVE CONTROLS OVER NSPS OR PURCHASE ORDER THAT CONTAIN NSP. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY FOCUS ON IMPROVING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THOSE CONTROLS, CONTROLS OVER THE NSPS AND PURCHASE ORDER REQUESTS FROM IT, WHICH IN THAT INCLUDES THE NSP. UH, WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT IT S REVIEW THE TRANSACTION FOR POSSIBLE CORRECTIVE ACTION. OUR FINDING NUMBER FOUR RELATES TO UNIT PRICES AND THE PRICE LIST, UH, ITSELF. UH, DURING OUR REVIEW OF THOSE THREE INVOICES, WE COULD NOT CONFIRM THE ACCURACY OF THE UNIT PRICES TO THE PRICING LIST. UM, THEREFORE WE COULDN'T CONFIRM WHETHER THE BILL AMOUNTS WERE ACTUALLY ACCURATE, BUT WE DID CONFIRM THAT THE DISTRICT PAID THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE BILLED BY IMPEX. WHY DID IT OCCUR? WE FOUND THAT ITS AND PSD DID NOT MAINTAIN THE PRICING LIST, UM, OR HAD ACCESS TO THE, UH, PRICING LIST FOR THE MANUFACTURER. UH, WE ALSO FOUND THAT IMPEX DIDN'T PROVIDE UPDATED PRICING LIST AS REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT. AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT ITA DOES NOT VERIFY THE UNIT PRICES TO THE PRICING LIST. UH, THAT GENERALLY VERIFIED THE DISCOUNT THAT IS TO THE, UH, UNIT PRICE, BUT THEY DON'T VERIFY THE UNIT PRICE. UM, THEREFORE, OUR RECOMMENDATION FOCUS ON IMPROVING CONTROLS OVER THE REVIEW OF INVOICES, UH, TO INCLUDE THE UNIT PRICES, NOT JUST THE DISCOUNT PERCENTAGE, BUT ALSO THE UNIT PRICES. AND WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT ITS AND PROCUREMENT MAINTAIN THE, UH, PRICING LIST, UH, AND AS WELL AS WORKABLE IMPACTS TO MAKE SURE THE INEX PROVIDE THOSE [02:30:01] PRICING LISTS AS REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT. AND OUR LAST FINDING, FIND NUMBER FIVE, UH, RELATES TO PREPAYMENT. DURING OUR REVIEW OF THE, UH, PAYMENTS RELATED TO THE PURCHASE ORDERS AND THE INVOICES, WE CAME ACROSS, UH, A PAYMENT, UH, THAT WAS A PREPAYMENT FOR THREE YEARS OF MANAGEMENT AND HOSTING SERVICES, UH, THAT TOTAL A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION THAT WAS NOT PERMITTED ON THE DISTRICT POLICY AND WASN'T EXPLICITLY AUTHORIZED UNDER THE, UH, CALIFORNIA STATUTE. UH, JUST TO NOTE, THE ORIGINAL BILLING TERMS WAS AN ANNUAL BILLING TERM INSTEAD OF A PREPAYMENT. UH, THIS OCCURRED BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE, UH, THIS OCCURRED BECAUSE THERE WAS AN INEFFECTIVE CONTROL OVER IT, TS REQUESTING PREPAYMENTS, AND AS WELL AS PROCUREMENT SERVICES REVIEWING AND AUTHORIZING THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS, THE PREPAYMENT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE ORDER. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY FOCUSED ON IMPROVING CONTROLS OVER ITS REQUESTS WHENEVER THE REQUEST FOR PREPAYMENTS, UH, AND AS WELL AS PSD REVIEWS OF THOSE PURCHASE ORDER THAT CONTAIN PREPAYMENTS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE. NOW, WE ALSO RECOMMENDED, UH, THAT A REVIEW BE MADE OF THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE TRANSACTION, UH, FOR POTENTIAL CORRECTIVE ACTION. AND IN OUR NEXT SLIDE, UH, JUST TO BE REAL QUICK, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, WE HAD 24 RECOMMENDATIONS, 12 OF WHICH WERE FOR ITS NINE FOR PROCUREMENT SERVICES, AND THREE FOREX. AND WITH THAT SAID, OUR TURN IT BACK TO MARIA THOMAS. THANK YOU. OVERALL, I-T-S-P-S-E AND NEX WERE RELATIVELY RESPONSIVE TO OUR AUDIT. UH, RECOMMENDATIONS. ITS AGREED WITH 11 OF 12 RECOMMENDATIONS. PSD AGREED WITH SIX RECOMMENDATIONS AND PARTIALLY AGREED WITH THREE ANDEX AGREED WITH ALL THREE RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS HERE, BUT I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE RESPONSES IN THE NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE RESPONSE HIGHLIGHTS. UM, SO RESPONSES, I-T-S-P-S-D AND IMPACTS MADE SOME NEAR TERM AND LONG-TERM COMMITMENTS. SOME OF THE SHORT TERM COMMITMENTS INCLUDED ITS AGREED TO ENHANCE PURCHASE REQUESTS AND ENSURE THAT EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT. PSD COMMITTED TO ENHANCE INSTRUCTIONS ON REVIEWING AND PROCESSING PURCHASE ORDERS, AND DOCUMENTING APPROVAL FOR, FROM OG CEX AGREED TO PROVIDE MONTHLY MSPS AND TO ESTABLISH A PRICING REPOSITORY. AND A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT. WE DID RECEIVE CONFIRMATION THAT IMPACTS DID PROVIDE, UM, MSRP FOR THIS MONTH, AND THEY DID INCLUDE A DISTRICT ACCESSIBLE PRICING REPOSITORY FOR US TO USE GOING FORWARD. LONG-TERM COMMITMENTS INCLUDED ITS STRENGTHENING PROCUREMENT AND PREPAYMENT CONTROLS AND PS PSD, UPDATING MSRP AND PRICING CONTROLS, AS WELL AS REVIEWING AND ESTABLISHING SURPLUS IT POLICIES AND TRAINING. THE OIG REITERATES THAT DEPARTMENTS TO WHOM RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE SHOULD RETAIN CLEAR OWNERSHIP COORDINATION AND FOLLOW UP RESPONSIBILITIES TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. ULTIMATELY, THE FOCUS OF OUR AUDITS AND THE FINDINGS WAS TO STRENGTHEN ACCOUNTABILITY, REDUCE RISK, AND ENSURING THAT THE DISTRICT HAS THE APPROPRIATE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE GOING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN, UH, ACCESS OUR COMPLETE REPORT IN THE OIG WEBSITE AS WELL AS THROUGH THIS QR CODE. AND NOW I TURN IT BACK OVER TO ASSISTANT INSPECTOR GENERAL JOSH BAR. UH, THANK YOU, MARIA. THANK YOU, ARMANDO. NEXT SLIDE. SARAH, I THINK YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANNA REITERATE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, COMMENTS, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US VIA OUR WEBSITE OR THAT PHONE NUMBER, EMAIL ADDRESSES ON THE SCREEN. STOP NOW. TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR US FOR THE TEAM. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE AUDIT. UM, I AM ALARMED, FRANKLY, BY SOME OF THE FINDINGS. UH, I I HAVE A, A GENERAL QUESTION. WHAT SHARE OF THIS WAS BOND FUNDED? ALMOST, I WOULD SAY ALMOST 50%. I THINK THERE WAS LIKE 23 APPROXIMATELY FOR THE CONTRACT, BUT 10.55 WAS BOND FUNDED. SO WE JUST FOCUSED ON THE BOND FUNDED, UM, RECEIPTS TRANSACTIONS. [02:35:01] SO, UH, I'M, UH, THE, THE PREPAYMENT ISSUE IS PARTICULARLY ALARMING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE SERVICES THAT WERE, UH, UH, OF THOSE MANAGEMENT SERVICES THAT WERE BEING PURCHASED, IF ANY OF THAT COMPONENT WAS PAID FOR WITH BOND FUNDS. UM, I CAN, I CAN SEE A NUMBER FROM A PRIVATE BUSINESS STANDPOINT OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR THE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN OWNING THIS BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP FOR MAXIMIZING REVENUE TO THEMSELVES AND THEIR BUSINESS IN A PARTICULAR YEAR, LIKE FOR BONUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I, I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATIONS WHY THEY WOULD PUSH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, BUT GIVEN THAT THIS IS INCOMPATIBLE NOT ONLY WITH THE DISTRICT'S OWN POLICY, BUT WITH STATE LAW, HAVE WE OR HAS THE DISTRICT ATTEMPTED TO RECOUP THOSE PREPAID FUNDS? OH, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, ARMANDO CONFIRMED THEY USED GENERAL FUNDS FOR THE PREPAYMENT. WE MET WITH OGC JUST TO KIND OF GET THEIR TAKE. AND THEN IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ITS IS REACHING OUT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN GET THOSE PREPAID FUNDS BACK. BUT WE'LL REQUEST AN UPDATE LATER. UM, I, I THINK WHAT I SAW WERE GENTLE EUPHEMISMS SURROUNDING POTENTIAL ADMINISTRATIVE CULPABILITY FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, EITHER THROUGH NEGLIGENCE OR, UM, DELIBERATE MISCONDUCT, UH, ENGAGED IN SOME OF THESE PRACTICES. ARE THE RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS UNITS GOING TO REPORT BACK TO THE IG IF THEY DO TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, UH, AGAINST EMPLOYEES WHO FAILED TO PERFORM THEIR JOB DUTIES IN THIS MANNER? WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY ANY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS, AND WE DIDN'T ASK THEM TO REACH OUT TO US. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO IF THE PARTIES DO DETERMINE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION IS WARRANTED. AND, AND BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES, IT, IT SEEMS THAT A NUMBER OF THESE ARE, ARE ITEMS WHERE, UH, EQUIPMENT OR, UH, SERVICES WERE PURCHASED WITHOUT A CLEAR AUTHORITY OF LAW. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISPERSING PUBLIC FUNDS, UM, IN A MANNER NOT DESCRIBED ANYWHERE IN THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ELECTED BOARD. UM, AND SO THAT RAISES A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LEGAL AUTHORITY, UH, FOR THOSE PURCHASES. IS THE BUSINESS UNIT GOING TO RETURN TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR A CONFIRMING CONTRACT OR A, UH, CONFIRMING PURCHASE ORDER FOR, FOR THOSE, UM, TO, TO ESTABLISH A LEGAL AUTHORITY TO, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S AFTER THE FACT, LIKE A RETROACTIVE CONTRACT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, NO. UM, YEAH, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, UH, THE SYSTEM OF CONTROLS, UH, I MEAN, I, I'M NOT, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME HOW, HOW, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LOOKED AT THE INVOICE REVIEW PROCESS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE INVOICES, UH, WERE REVIEWED BY SOMEONE IN THE DISTRICT WHO, WHO AGREED THAT THEY WERE OKAY TO PAY, RIGHT? SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, THE REVIEW. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A POTENTIAL WEAKNESS WITH JUST A SIGNATURE, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW HOW DETAILED THEY WANT, OR DID THEY JUST SIGN OFF ON IT? AND JUST GOING BACK REAL QUICK TO GOING BACK TO THE BOARD, THAT IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE, THAT THEY DO GO BACK TO THE BOARD TO KIND OF HAVE THE BOARD LOOK AT WHAT WAS PURCHASED AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS RELEVANT OR APPROPRIATE. SO YEAH, IT, IT, IT CERTAINLY, IF, IF I WAS ON THE END OF, OF THE MECHANICAL PROCESS OF ISSUING THAT DISBURSEMENT, IT WOULD NOT BE CLEAR TO ME THAT THERE WAS A LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MATT FRIEDMAN, CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER. SO SPECIFIC TO THAT QUESTION, WE'RE WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL HAVE AN ANSWER AT SOME POINT. I, I'LL, I'LL LOOK FOR THAT IN A FUTURE BOARD OF ED MEETING. UM, I, I DON'T MEAN TO MONOPOLIZE ALL THE TIME HERE. UH, I'LL START WITH MS. ORCHARD MUELLER. MY QUESTION, IS ANYONE GOING TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE, BOTTOM LINE, AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST WAS THERE, UH, COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WELL, I CAN SPEAK FROM THE AUDIT STANDPOINT WE JUST IDENTIFIED. NO, I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. BUT NOW THE BALL IS IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S COURT, AND ARE YOU GONNA HIT OR MISS OR STRIKE OUT? UH, SO I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. UH, IN, IN MY VIEW AND IN THE DISTRICT'S VIEW, THERE'S SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AMONGST A NUMBER OF DIVISIONS. AND SO AS FAR AS THIS AUDIT GOES, THERE'S A, A FEW THINGS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT FROM A POSTMORTEM OR FROM AN AFTER ACTION REVIEW TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IN THE PROCESS THINGS BROKE DOWN. UM, YEAH, I'M A FORMER MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, AND IF THIS HAPPENED AT MY SCHOOL, I WOULD BE NO LONGER WORKING FOR THE DISTRICT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AND CONCERN. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT. UH, SOME OF THE FOLKS INVOLVED ARE NO LONGER WITH THE DISTRICT, AND SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AS PART OF THE PROCESS ARE STILL HERE. AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK OUR, OUR VIEW IS TO TAKE [02:40:01] A LOOK AT IT FROM A ENTIRE PERSPECTIVE AND LOOK AT IT FROM LIKE A POSTMORTEM TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. I, I, I JUST TO, TO THAT POINT, I, I, I THINK THE, THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PREPAYMENT IN PARTICULAR, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE OBVIOUS AND, AND EASY TO COMPREHEND FINANCIAL INCENTIVES, WHY A PRIVATE BUSINESS WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT SORT OF ARRANGEMENT WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPRESSLY PROVIDED FOR A DIFFERENT PAYMENT ARRANGEMENT. AND THE FACT THAT ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A MINIMALLY FUNCTIONAL SYSTEM OF INVOICE REVIEW, WHERE SOMEONE RECEIVES AND CONFIRMS THAT WE GOT WHAT WE PAID FOR AND AUTHORIZES IT FOR PAYMENT, AND THAT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE AUTHORIZATION BASED ON THE DOLLAR VALUE, AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE ISSUED THAT DISBURSEMENT. AND ALL ALONG THAT, THAT PATHWAY THAT INVOLVES THEORETICALLY SEGREGATED DUTIES, APPROPRIATELY SEGREGATED DUTIES, NO ONE CAUGHT THAT THIS WAS CONTRARY TO THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT. THAT IS, I MEAN, I SAY ALARMING, BUT THAT DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO TOUCH IT. UM, IT'S, IT, IT RAISES, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS FOR ME, AND MOST OF MY GOVERNMENT CAREER HAS BEEN IN FRAUD INVESTIGATION ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THESE TRANSACTIONS AND, AND A A, A NUMBER OF OTHER TROUBLING THINGS. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST A COMPLETE PROCESS BREAKDOWN, BUT IT, IT, IT SEEMS SO EXTREME BASED ON THE INFORMATION PRESENTED HERE THAT IT, IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I I ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. YEAH. UM, IT, IT, IT REALLY RAISES CONCERN ABOUT, UM, WHAT ELSE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OTHER INVOICES FOR COMPLICATED PROJECTS AND PROCUREMENTS SUBJECT TO A SIMILAR, UH, I GUESS LACK OF VALIDATION AGAINST THE UNDERLYING CONTRACT. RIGHT. , I'M SORRY, MR. SULLIVAN. HONESTLY, THAT WAS JUST A REALLY GOOD SEGUE INTO KIND OF MY QUESTION FOR, FOR, FOR THE AUDITORS IS, IS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND IS EGREGIOUS AS IT IS, ARE, DOES THIS INFORM FUTURE AUDITS? I I MEAN, WE JUST LOOKED AT 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND WE FOUND $6 MILLION WORTH OF MISAPPROPRIATED . SO LIKE, UH, IS IS THIS, ARE, ARE THE, THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED OFF ON THIS ARE, ARE THEY, IS THEIR WORK BEING LOOKED AT CLOSER? IS THERE MORE SCRUTINY ON ITS IN THE FUTURE? IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DOES THIS INFORM YOU GUYS GOING FORWARD AND PERFORMING AUDITS OF THE FUTURE? WE TAKE SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE LEARNED AND WE LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENTS. WE'VE, WE'RE PART OF THE AUDIT, AND THEN THAT FACTORS INTO OUR ANNUAL AUDIT PLANNING AND LIKE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR LIMITED RESOURCES. LIKE MARIA MENTIONED, MOST OF OUR AUDIT STAFF IS BOND FUNDED, THEREFORE, WE'RE KIND OF BOXED IN TO LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S FUNDED WITH BOND STUFF, WHERE A LOT OF THE FUNDING FOR THIS CONTRACT WAS GENERAL FUNDED. SO WE'RE KIND OF TAKING WHAT WE LEARNED HERE AND TRYING TO APPLY IT TO OTHER BOND FUNDED, UM, CONTRACTS AND OTHER TYPES OF PERFORMANCE AUDITS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO ROLL OUT JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DISTRICT IS DOING TO ONE, IMPROVE UPON WHAT WE FOUND. AND THEN TWO, LIKE ANY UPDATES TO THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE CALLED OUT. SO I TURN OVER TO ARMANDO. I THINK HE HAS A, YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT PROCESSES AND WHERE THINGS BROKE DOWN, THAT THE PROCESS REALLY STARTS WITH THE CONTRACT OWNER. AND THE CONTRACT OWNER IS ITS 'CAUSE THEY PUT IN THEIR REQUEST PROCUREMENT. I KNOW, UH, MR. FREEMAN IS HERE. UH, BUT THE, SO THE ONLY POLICY, BUT THEY'RE SORT OF MORE THE FACILITATOR. BUT FOR US, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE CONTROL REALLY STARTS WITH THE CONTRACT OWNER. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST LINE, RIGHT? AND THEN PROCUREMENT BECOMES THE SECOND LINE. THEY MONITOR THE REVIEW TRANSACTIONS AND APPROVE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THE, UH, THE PROCESS WHERE IT STARTS WITH, WITH THE CONTRACT OWNER, IT S THEN IT MOVES INTO PROCUREMENT, AND THEN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE MAKES THE PAYMENT. I, I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST, MAYBE JUST TO KIND OF RE-ASK THE QUESTION, BUT DOES THIS IN THE FUTURE, HAVE YOU GUYS PLACED MORE SCRUTINY ON ITS THAN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW OCCURRED HERE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, YES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THAT WE ADDED, UH, ON OUR CURRENT WORK PLAN THIS YEAR. THIS AUDIT WAS FINISHING UP AS WE WERE PRODUCING OUR CURRENT WORK PLAN. UM, WE HAVE A AUDIT LOOKING AT PREPAYMENTS, TO WHAT EXTENT ARE PREPAYMENTS HAPPENING, TO WHAT EXTENT HAVE THEY OCCURRED, WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THESE TYPE OF PREPAYMENTS. SO THAT REPORT IS STILL IN ITS INFANCY, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO KIND OF SEE HOW PREVALENT PREPAYMENTS ARE AND WHAT PART DEPARTMENTS LIKE ARE USING THE PREPAYMENTS IF THERE ARE HAPPENING. SO THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, MR. PETERSON, SO I WAS GOING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE KEY DATES AND FUNDING THAT, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED ON THE FIFTH SLIDE. AND THE INVITATION TO BID WAS AUGUST OF 2021. I'M ASSUMING THAT SINCE BOND FUNDS WERE USED, THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST MADE FROM BOND OVERSIGHT TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT PROBABLY IN THE YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE. [02:45:02] I'M WONDERING, NOT TO MAKE ANY EXCUSES, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE WHOLE COVID SHUTDOWN, YOU KNOW, STANDSTILL WOULD'VE HAD AN EFFECT ON SOME OF THE LENIENT WAYS THAT THINGS WERE WERE DONE. AND HAVING SAID THAT, UM, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BE BENEFICIAL AT SOME POINT IN TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL THE CONTRACTS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT, OR MAYBE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY, OR, OR THESE AUDITS ARE ALREADY IN PROCESS FOR YOU. BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND HAVING SAID THAT, THEN, UM, AND SINCE YOUR FINDINGS ARE COMING ABOUT NOW, UM, DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE ALSO NOW NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S COMING THROUGH FOR SOME OF THESE MORE FINE TUNED, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND SO FORTH OR, OR MORE SCRUTINY AS THESE CONTRACTS ARE COMING FORWARD? UM, AND ONE FINAL QUESTION IS, ARE WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY, THIS VENDOR? YES. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE, UH, THE DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT THAT WERE PURCHASED WERE PART OF A INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE THAT WAS PART OF ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR BOND FUND. IT'S ONE OF THOSE, AND I, I DON'T RECOLLECT WHICH ONE, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE TWO, UH, NETWORK UPGRADES THAT MS. NOLAN NORMALLY PRESENTS TO THE, UH, BOC. UH, AND AS FAR AS WHETHER WE'RE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH INEX, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO MR. FRIEDMAN. AND, AND, UH, IT S TO ANSWER REPORT INDICATED $250 MILLION OF CAPACITY IN THIS AREA. IS THAT, IS THAT BOND DOLLARS AVAILABLE OR IS THAT THE TOTAL TOTALITY OF CONTRACT THE UNIVERSE WITH IMPACTS OR, I, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THAT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A MIX OF BOTH GENERAL AND BOND, DEPENDING ON THE 13 CONTRACTS FOR THE IMPACTS WAS A MIX. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY BUSINESS WE HAVE WITH PEX, THOUGH. UM, I WOULD DEFER TO. OKAY. OR WE DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS, THE PRIVATE SECTOR HEADS WOULD'VE ROLLED A LONG TIME AGO, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. YEAH. UM, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HERE ARE, HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, OF APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING OF WHERE THIS MONEY GOES, AND IT'S A LIMITED POT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING SPENT PROPERLY AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF OUR STUDENTS AT THE END OF THE DAY. UM, SO I, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD REQUEST THAT IF AT SOME POINT YOU ARE LOOKING AT OTHER CONTRACTS OR, OR PROVISIONS OR SPENDING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS DURING THIS TIMEFRAME, MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT IF, IF IT'S NOT ALREADY ON YOUR AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON. UH, JUST A QUESTION REGARDING THE CONTRACT TERM. THERE'S A LINE THERE THAT SAYS TWO 12 MONTH OPTION RENEWALS. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALREADY AT THE END OF YEAR 2026. DO THEY HAVE AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL FOR THEIR CONTRACT FOR THIS? HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN APPROVED? ? SO THE CURRENT CONTRACT ENDS JANUARY 26, AND THOSE OPTION YEARS WERE, WERE EXTENDED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PREPAYMENT, UH, THE SERVICES ARE ONGOING. I BELIEVE THAT WAS A QUESTION. SO THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS, UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS ORGANIZATION. UM, AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE'RE WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO IDENTIFY HOW TO APPROACH THIS IN A MANNER THAT SUPPORTS THE DISTRICT OR IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT. I MEAN, BEING THAT THEY WERE PREPAYMENTS AUTHORIZED THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE. I JUST THINK THAT, UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING BUSINESS WITH US ANYMORE. AND, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT MY DECISION. LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO THE RESPONSES FROM THE THREE DIFFERENT PARTIES, IT WAS REALLY DISHEARTENING TO SAY OR TO SEE THAT, UM, ITS YEAH, AGREED WITH THEM, BUT THEN THEY EMPHASIZED THEY WANTED TO POINT THE FINGER AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE POINT OF ALL THIS IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. WE'RE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS PROPERLY. AND SO WHEN IT GOES OUT INTO THE ETHER AND IT JUST GOES WILLY-NILLY TO THE PROCESS AND WE THROW UP, AND FOR PEOPLE TO COME UP HERE AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA THROW OUR HANDS UP AND SAY, OH, WELL THIS HAPPENED, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT. THAT, THAT NOT, THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR. NO, I THINK MARIE HAS A COMMENT, BUT ONE THING I WANNA SAY TOO, THOUGH, I THINK THIS IS INDICATIVE MAYBE OF LACK OF POTENTIAL CLARITY WITH SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE, RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW DETAILED THE PROCESSES ARE. AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? HOW DETAILED ARE THE PROCESSES? HOW DO THEY FOLLOW THIS STUFF? AND THEN TO WHAT EXTENT ARE THEY BEING FOLLOWED? SO LIKE THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS THAT ARE JUST BROADER IN GENERAL, LIKE, WHAT COULD THE DISTRICT BE DOING BETTER WITH THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT HAS IN PLACE, AND HOW [02:50:02] CLEAR ARE THEY? AND TO WHAT EXTENT HAVE THEY BEEN IMPLEMENTED? SO I'LL STOP ON THAT. THAT'S MORE OF LIKE A BROADER QUESTION WE HAVE AND TURN IT OVER TO MARIA. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY MENTION BECAUSE, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS REGARDING IMPACTS, UM, FROM WHAT WE COULD SEE IN, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH IMPACTS, THE DISTRICT PROPOSED TO PREPAY THE IMPACTS, DID NOT, UM, ASK FOR PREPAYMENT. WE OFFERED FOR THE PREPAYMENT, THEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE CAN GIVE YOU THIS DISCOUNT, WHICH WAS LIKE 0.05%, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NOTHING. UM, SO THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. SO I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT WE WOULD WANT TO KIND OF TELL IMPACTS, NO, YOU CAN'T RECEIVE MONIES THAT WE'RE OFFERING YOU AHEAD OF TIME. UM, SO THAT WAS ONE THING. UH, THE OTHER THING REGARDING, IN REGARDS TO RESPONSIBILITIES, THERE ARE SOME GRAY AREAS, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UM, A, A CERTAIN POINT OF, OF, UH, RESPONSIBILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY IN REGARDS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN INVOICES ARE RECEIVED, UM, THE REQUESTING OFFICE, WHEN THEY ENTER A RECEIVER IN THE SYSTEM, IF IN THE SYSTEM YOU HAVE THE THREE-WAY MATCH, THE PURCHASE ORDER, THE RECEIVER, AND THE INVOICE, THE PAYMENT GOES THROUGH. SO, UM, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE COULD REVIEW. I DO NOT KNOW, BUT, UH, THE RECEIVER, THE ENTERING OF THE RECEIVER IS A KEY POINT IN THIS PROCESS. AND THAT'S DEFINITELY MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE, UM, THE BUSINESS UNITS THAT'S REQUESTING THE SERVICES, UM, HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND, AND I THINK, AND, AND I THINK YOU'RE ON EXACTLY THE RIGHT TRACK THERE. I MEAN, WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A DEMAND ON THE TREASURY OF THE GOVERNMENT, IN THIS CASE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UM, THE STAFF WHO ARE INVOLVED IN APPROVING OR ASSESSING WHETHER TO APPROVE THAT DEMAND, UM, HAVE TO DETERMINE IF IT'S LEGITIMATE, RIGHT? DO THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY UNDER LAW TO MAKE THAT DISBURSEMENT? UH, AND IS THE AMOUNT CORRECT? RIGHT? AND THAT INCLUDES, AS YOU SAID, A THREE-WAY MATCH, VERIFYING, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT? WELL, IT'S TO VERIFY FROM SOMEONE WITH FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE IN THE BUSINESS UNIT THAT REQUESTED THE GOOD OR SERVICE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED IT AND IT WAS RECEIVED AS CONTRACTED. AND THE FACT THAT WE PAID FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T SPECIFIED IN THE CONTRACT AT ALL, UM, IT, IT SUGGESTS SUCH A FUNDAMENTAL BREAKDOWN, BEST CASE SCENARIO, A FUNDAMENTAL BREAKDOWN IN THE, IN THE PROCESS OF INVOICE REVIEW AND, UH, APPROVAL. UM, THAT, THAT IT KIND OF CALLS INTO QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, UH, MR. PANSKY AND THEN MR. SULLIVAN, I'VE GOT A MORE OF A BROAD STATEMENT THAN, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. WE, WE HAVE THE NEW IT TEAM HERE, NEW LEADERSHIP, AND YOU'RE HEARING ALL OF THIS. THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE THAT GOES BACK YEARS WITH THIS DEPARTMENT BACK TO MISIS AND ISIS. AND THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD. I'VE SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THIS TYPE OF A REPORT, AND THAT THE BREAKDOWN IN SYSTEMS AND HOW THE APPROVAL PROCESSES AND THINGS THAT THEY'VE FOUND OUT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT YEARS AGO, NOT JUST THIS PROJECT, BUT BASED ON ALL THE OTHER PAST ISSUES THAT IT HAS HAD. AND THE PROCUREMENT TEAM KNOWS THIS. SO I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED THAT THERE AREN'T SAFEGUARDS THAT WOULD'VE PROTECTED THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. COVID ISS A GREAT EXCUSE, AND IT MAY BE A HUNDRED PERCENT THE REAL REASON, AND THE VENDORS, UH, THAT ARE USED. I JUST, LIKE ROBERT SAID, I, I UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WOULD WANT THESE TYPES OF CONTRACTS, BUT WHEN THEY DID THE OFFICIAL FIRST ROUND OF PAPERWORK, THIS WAS ALL SPELLED OUT AND PROTECTIONS WERE PLAYED BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. SO TO KNOW THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED AGAIN, AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME BACK UP HERE NEXT YEAR, AND YOU'RE GONNA ASK FOR MORE MONEY FROM US TO APPROVE, NOT THAT WE HAVE AUTHORITY, BUT HERE ARE NEW ID PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN THE SCHOOL. AND IT PROJECTS WERE QUESTIONABLE IN THE FIRST PLACE, UH, BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUNDS WEREN'T THERE TO PAY FOR ALL THIS. THAT'S HOW BONDS FUNDS GOT USED AND CUSTOMIZED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. WE HAVE TO TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY AT L-A-U-S-D FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, IS IT IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST HOLES IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. SO I I HOPE YOU [02:55:01] GUYS CAN CREATE SOME SYSTEMS TO BRING THIS FORWARD. MR. SULLIVAN, UM, ACTUALLY REALLY KIND OF GOING OFF OF WHAT MR. PANSKY SAID. I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS WHAT WE, AND I LOVE THAT YOU LIST OFF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AND WHAT THE RESPONSES WERE, AND THEY SAY, OH, WE AGREED WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS GOOD TO KNOW, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING TO, TO, TO GO BACK AND LOOK, WHETHER IT BE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR A YEAR FROM NOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE INDEED, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SOLUTIONS ARE, WERE, WERE FIXED. THAT THE, THAT THE, THE SOLUTIONS YOU'VE POSED ARE, WERE ADAPTED. UH, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, ARE WE LOOKING INTO THAT AND WE USUALLY DO RECOMMENDATION FOLLOW UP ONCE A YEAR TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? OR MAYBE IS THAT RIGHT TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, JUST TO KIND OF CATCH UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE PROMULGATED OR IMPLEMENTED OR TO WHAT EXTENT THEY ARE, AND THEN WE REPORT ON THAT BECAUSE IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED, THAT THEN AGAIN, FEEDS INTO THE NEXT RISK ASSESSMENT CYCLE AND KIND OF DRIVES OUR WORK PLAN. AM I MISSING ANYTHING ON THAT ONE? GOOD. SO, UH, UNDERSTOOD. I THINK I JUST, I, I HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT MR. PENSKY'S SAYING ABOUT HOW HE'S BEEN HERE ALL THE, THESE YEARS AND SEEN THESE ISSUES KIND OF COME UP BEFORE. SO, YOU KNOW, I PRESUMABLY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THOSE PAST ISSUES WOULD'VE BEEN MADE AND, YOU KNOW, BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN. SO I'M JUST STATING THAT JUST A QUICK RESPONSE TO MR. PANKEY'S QUESTION. SO, SO THANK YOU. AND WE WERE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY, ITS WAS OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD AN ITEM TO THE AGENDA TODAY AND, AND SPEAK IN RESPONSE TO THE AUDIT. SO WE CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTICALLY. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. AND AS MR. FRIEDMAN INDICATED, UM, WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER TO, UM, TO RENEGOTIATE OR WORK OUT WITH OUR VENDOR OR GO BACK AND TRY TO RESOLVE THESE CONTRACT ISSUES AS BEST WE CAN. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT OUR OVERALL SYSTEM OF CONTROLS, UM, AND MAKE THE, UH, AND MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS. AND, AND WE WOULD WELCOME YOU TO COME BACK IF AT A FEATURE POINT YOU WANT TO UPDATE US ON NOT ONLY YOUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE IG CAN CAN BE HERE AS WELL. UM, I, I DO THINK GIVEN SORT OF THE, THE, THE CONTENT OF THIS REPORT AND THE, THE COMMENTARY OF THE MEMBERS HERE THAT IT, IT WILL BE IMPORTANT. THAT'S THE ONE BIG DEAL. IT WASN'T, RIGHT? IT, IT, YEAH. I MEAN, IT LOOK, WASN'T WORKING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS THE SYSTEM, AT LEAST THE IG SYSTEM WORKING AS IT SHOULD, RIGHT? UM, AUDITS ARE PERFORMED, THEY FIND THINGS, AND HOPEFULLY THEY WERE, THEY, THEY RESULT IN CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT HAVE A LASTING IMPACT. BUT, UM, I, I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL AS FUTURE PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED TO INCLUDE SOME CONTEXT ABOUT ADDITIONAL CONTROLS, PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS OR CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT ITS IS IMPLEMENTED TO IMPROVE ITS MONITORING OF AGREEMENTS AND, AND TO PROVIDE GREATER ASSURANCE THAT WHEN INVOICES ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED FOR PAYMENT, THAT THEY'RE VALIDATED AGAINST DELIVERABLES IN A CONTRACT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACTUALLY AUTHORITY UNDER LAW TO PAY THEM. SO, UM, I KNOW WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT. I WILL BE, UH, THE NEXT TIME WE'RE ASKED TO CONSIDER OR RENDER A RECOMMENDATION ON A AN IT PROJECT. IF I MAY JUST ADD ONE FINAL COMMENT, YOU GUYS ARE THE BEARERS OF THE BAD NEWS OR GOOD NEWS. SO IT'S NOT YOU NECESSARILY, BUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED AS IN ADDITION TO LOOKING FORWARD, I THINK YOU ALL NEED TO DO AN INTERNAL, UH, LOOK BACK AT THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE LOOPHOLES, LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH TODAY, THAT THOSE ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED. I THINK PART OF THE JOB OF THE OIG IS, IS TO IDENTIFY THINGS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT JUST APPLIES TO THIS ONE SITUATION. YOU TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GO BACK INTO YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND SEE WHAT ELSE IS, IS OUT THERE THAT COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM. THAT'S JUST MY, UM, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMING UP ON OUR HARD STOP AT 1:00 PM SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING UP AND, AND PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY AND CLARIFICATION FOR US. APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AROUND THIS. IF IT WAS UP TO ME, UH, I, I WOULD SUGGEST MORE BOND FUNDING BE ALLOCATED FOR ADDITIONAL WORK IN THIS AREA. UM, WITH THAT, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED AND FILED THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. UH, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 12, NON AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY NEED TO BRING UP? OKAY. UH, SEEING NONE THEN, UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. I WANT TO, AGAIN, THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE DISTRICT STAFF FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN TODAY'S MEETING. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3RD AT 10:00 AM UH, SO WE ARE OFF FOR NOVEMBER. HAPPY HALLOWEEN. HAPPY VETERAN'S DAY. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.