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[Call to Order ]
GOOD MORNING.WELCOME TO THE MAY 28TH, 2026 BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL HAMNER, CHAIR OF THE BOC.
I WANNA WARMLY WELCOME ALL OF OUR MEMBERS, DISTRICT STAFF, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS A B C'S LAST MEETING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND AS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE TO READ OUR BOC MISSION.
THE BOC CHARTER AND MEMO OF UNDER OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING STATES THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS SHARED VISION WITH THE DISTRICT AND BUILDING, MODERNIZING, AND MAINTAINING SCHOOLS THAT PROMOTE THE FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHILD ARE EDUCATIONALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND, ENHANCE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH DESIGN AND PROGRAMMING AS CENTERS OF COMMUNITY, AND REFLECT THE WISE AND EFFICIENT USE OF LIMITED LAND.
THE MOU ALSO STATES THAT THE BOC HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THE EXPENDITURE OF BOND FUNDS WHEN THE DISTRICT DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE INFORMATION OR EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT, OR WHEN A PROJECT OR PROGRAM APPEARS TO BE IMPERMISSIBLE OR IMP PRUDENT.
FOR THIS MEETING, WE HAVE 14 MEMBERS ATTENDING IN PERSON HERE AT THE BOARDROOM, AND, AND MEMBER IAN MOLER IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY.
I WANT TO THANK K-L-C-S-I-T-S AND THE SPANISH INTERPRETATION STAFF FOR THEIR SEAMLESS WORK AND BROADCASTING OUR MEETINGS BOTH TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
YOU KNOW, AT OUR LAST MEETING, I HAD A YOUNG LADY FROM THE STAFF COME AND THANK ME FOR SAYING THIS EVERY MEETING, AND, UM, I WANTED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
BUT IN REALITY, THOUGH, I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT SHE, UH, UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AGAIN, THANK YOU KLCS AND IT S STAFF.
[Chair’s Remarks ]
I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. CAMPBELL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REMARKS.I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
THE BOC WEBSITE CAN BE FOUND@WWW.BOND OVERSIGHT.
A LIVE STREAM OF TODAY'S MEETING CAN BE FOUND ON THIS WEBSITE UNDER THE TAB MEETING AGENDAS, UPCOMING MEETINGS.
THE WEBSTREAM INCLUDES VERSIONS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
THE BOC WEBSITE ALSO INCLUDES ALL MATERIALS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BOND MEASURES, AND OTHER INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE DISTRICT'S BOND PROGRAM AND OUR OVERSIGHT ROLE.
THIS MEETING IS BEING CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BROWN ACT.
FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE REMOTELY, WE ASK THAT YOU REGISTER ON A GOOGLE FORM PROVIDED AS A HYPERLINK ON THE MEETING AGENDA.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE BOARDROOM WHO WISH TO SPEAK, YOU MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO THE RIGHT OF THE SPEAKER PODIUM.
UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO, UH, CONGRATULATE WHO'S REMOTE WITH US TODAY.
UH, MEMBER CHARLOTTE LURCH MUER FOR BEING RECOGNIZED FOR HER WORK BY THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS AND RECEIVING THE ROBERT E. KELLY AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY SERVICE.
THIS AWARD HONORS INDIVIDUALS WHO HELP ADVANCE THE HIGH QUALITY OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND WHO HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS OVER THE YEARS, AS SHE WILL RECEIVE THE AWARD AT THE A CLA LEADERSHIP SUMMIT IN CHULA VISTA IN NOVEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT LOOKED WEIRD, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT YOU UP HERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW I SAW YOU AND I, YOU'RE, I COULD HAVE SEEN THAT.
NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, MUEY CHO IS A WONDERFUL CREATIVE WRITER,
SECOND, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE BOC MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED RECENT EVENTS ON MAY 5TH FI, UH, MAY 5TH, EXCUSE ME.
BOCC MEMBER ROBERT CAMPBELL AND SANDY BETS TOURED THE DISTRICT'S EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
THE CONTOUR, THE TOUR WAS CONDUCTED BY ITS STAFF MEMBER KIM KENNEDY AND SCHOOL POLICE.
THE MEMBERS GOT TO SEE FIRSTHAND HOW BOND FUNDED, UH, CAMERAS AND INTRUSION ALARM SYSTEMS ARE MONITORED BY POLICE STAFF AROUND THE CLOCK AND HOW THEY'RE USED TO REDUCE INCIDENTS OF THEFT AND VANDALISM.
UH, THANK YOU, UM, SANDY AND, AND ROBERT FOR ATTENDING THAT ON MAY 26TH, BOC MEMBER SCOTT PANSKY AND PATRICK MCFARLAND ATTENDED THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY FOR THE MAJOR MODERNIZATION PROJECT AT CANOGA PARK HIGH SCHOOL.
THANKS TO DISTRICT'S COMMUNITY OUTREACH STAFF FOR THIS EVENT.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SCOTT AND PATRICK FOR REPRESENTING THE COMMITTEE ON MAY 27TH.
BOC MEMBER SANDY BETS ATTENDED THE HAYDEN AVENUE EA OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIBBON CUTTING, UH, FOR THE NEW PLAY STRUCTURE, MATTING AND CAL FIRE GREENING PROJECT.
AGAIN, SANDY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, WAS THERE ANY COMMENTS THOUGH, FROM ANY OF THE MEMBERS THAT WENT TO ANY OF THESE EVENTS? ROBERT, UH, JUST WANTED TO THANK THE DISTRICT AGAIN FOR FACILITATING THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO
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SEE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, UM, AS NOT ONLY A MEMBER OF THE BOC, BUT AS A, A PARENT OF A CHILD IN THE DISTRICT.UM, I, I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE, UM, CAPABILITIES THAT THE CAMERA SYSTEMS BRING TO BEAR IN TERMS OF HELPING THE, UM, VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF SCHOOL POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE MAXIMIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO INCIDENTS, UH, TO MONITOR THOSE SCHOOL SITES WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING USED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PREVENT AND RESPOND TO, TO CRIMES AND OTHER SAFETY THREATS.
IT WAS, UH, REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE INTEGRATION OF THAT TECHNOLOGY AND, AND HOW THEY CAN ACCESS IT REMOTELY TO, PARTICULARLY TO FACILITATE, UM, INCIDENT RESPONSE IN AN EMERGENCY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT THE INTEROPERABILITY OF THESE SYSTEMS AND, AND THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THEM REMOTELY.
SO, WAS VERY THANKFUL TO GET TO SEE THAT.
UM, SANDY OR SCOTT OR PATRICK, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO YOUR EXPERIENCES? SCOTT? UH, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND, UH, CHRISTINA TOS AND, UH, THE STAFF, UH, AT L-A-U-S-D.
AGAIN, ANOTHER PHENOMENAL EVENT AND, AND SEEING WHERE WE ARE SPENDING OUR FUNDS AND, AND WHAT'S BEING DONE WITH THEM.
UH, THE BOARD CHAIR, UH, SCOTT LINSON, VERY, VERY, UH, WELCOMING TO EVERYBODY AND JUST IT, IT WAS A LOVELY EVENT AND, UH, ALWAYS ENJOY ATTENDING THEM.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE HADDEN ELEMENTARY, UH, RIBBON CUTTING YESTERDAY, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING THE UNIQUE COMMUNITY THAT EVERY SCHOOL HAS.
UM, THERE WAS A, UM, ACCESSIBLE PLAY STRUCTURE, UM, ALONG WITH A SHADE SALE OR SHADE, UM, STRUCTURE INSTALLED.
AND THAT, UM, PROJECT ACTUALLY HAD MEDI-CAL REIMBURSEMENT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS AN ACCESSIBLE PLACE STRUCTURE.
SO THAT WAS, UH, A, A NEW PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE FOR ME, UM, AS TO HOW SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED.
UM, WHEN THE PRINCIPAL GAVE HER REMARKS, UH, SHE NOTED THAT THE STUDENTS WERE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE PLANTING OF THE TREES BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO 19,000 SQUARE FEET OF ASPHALT THAT WERE REMOVED AND THEN REPLACED WITH TREES AND A GRASS FIELD.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.
ANYTIME THE STUDENTS ARE INVOLVED WITH PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE SCHOOL SITE, THAT'S ALWAYS, UM, BENEFICIAL.
AND SHE SAID THAT NOW THE ENTIRE SCHOOL COMMUNITY REFERS TO THAT FIELD AS HADDON PARK.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY NICE IDEA THAT THE SCHOOLS OR THAT THE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A, A FEELING AND AN ACTUAL, UM, INVOLVEMENT WITH A PARK AT THEIR SCHOOL SITE.
UM, ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT, UM, SO THERE WAS THE GRASS FIELD AND THE NEW PLAY STRUCTURE.
THERE IS AN EXISTING KINDER PLAY STRUCTURE, UM, THAT IS IN THAT SAME AREA.
AND, UM, IT IS IN NEED OF THE RUBBER MATTING REPLACEMENT.
UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT, UM, FACILITIES COMING IN AND DOING A PROJECT, UM, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE TENDED TO.
UM, AND THERE'S SEPARATE PROGRAMS, SEPARATE, UM, POTS OF MONEY, UM, BUT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THERE'S ONE NICE NEW PLAY STRUCTURE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A PLAY STRUCTURE THAT NEEDS WORK.
UM, SOMEHOW, SOME WAY I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IF THEY WERE ALREADY THERE INSTALLING THE, THE, UM, NEW RUBBER MATTING TO THEN GO AHEAD AND REPLACE THE RUBBER MATTING WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HAPPENS.
UM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
UM, BUT IT WAS A GREAT, UH, GREAT PROGRAM AND GREAT PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADDED COMMENTS AND, AND, UM, OBSERVATIONS.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT, PATRICK? I, I THINK JUST FOR ME, JUST TO ADD ON TO, UM, MR. PENSKE'S COMMENTS, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE STUDENTS AND, AND THEIR JOY ESPECIALLY UNDERSTANDING THIS, THIS TIME OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AS, AS IT WINDS DOWN.
AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE PROGRESSION OF THE PROJECT, SORT OF THIS BIG HOLE, UM, IN THE GROUND AND, UM, SORT OF READY TO, TO GET STARTED, SORT OF WHEN THE SCHOOL YEAR ENDS.
AND I, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IT WAS NOTICEABLE HOW THEY, THE DISTRICT HAD MANAGED THE TIMELINES, UH, WITH THE SCHOOL SCHEDULE AND TO SORT OF MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE, ON THE SCHOOL.
AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED AND I WANTED TO JUST MENTION TODAY.
WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UM, SLATE 13 ITEMS. UH, WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC
[1. Public Comment]
COMMENT.SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD AS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
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ONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL BE PROVIDED SIX MINUTES TOTAL.
UM, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE BOARDROOM THIS MORNING WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE? YES, THERE A SPEAKER JUST ARRIVED, MR. DAVID KOSKI, AND HE WILL BE PROVIDING COMMENTS ON SEVERAL ITEMS. GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
I MISSED YOUR LAST MEETING TODAY.
YOU HAVE, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE MOU.
AND I ENJOYED VERY MUCH THE PRESENTATION HISTORICALLY OF, OF THAT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE VERY FACT THAT BOARD, UH, DIDN'T HAVE THE IDEA OF AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
UH, BUT IT GREW OUT OF THE FIASCO AT THE BELMONT LEARNING COMPLEX, WHICH, UH, WAS ALSO DOCUMENTED BY THE JUDGE'S COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO YOU WHEN THERE WAS A LAWSUIT SAYING THAT THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE THE, UH, NOT THE AFTER SITE COMMITTEE, BUT THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
AND SO, AS YOU GO OVER $36 BILLION, I THINK, UH, WA WAS MENTIONED, UM, THAT IS LARGER THAN 121 NATIONS, UH, OF THE WORLD.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE WORK YOU DO, UH, THE LAST BOND BEING 9 BILLION AND OTHER BOND MONEY STILL AVAILABLE, YOUR DUTIES ARE IMPORTANT.
AND I WAS GLAD TO AUTHOR, UH, THE, UH, CREATION OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, PRELIMINARILY ON ITEM ONE, UH, THERE SHOULD BE A MUCH MORE PUBLIC INPUT.
E EVERY CLASSROOM IN THE DISTRICT.
YOU ALL JUST REPORTED, I'M GOING TO SCHOOLS.
YOU DID NOT SEE THE WILLIAMS COMPLIANCE MONITORING AT ANY, EVERY CLASSROOM, AND EVERY MAIN OFFICER SHOULD BE THERE.
THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU FEEDBACK MORE THAN JUST ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER OUT OF 10 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANNA AMEND SOME OF THE GOOD THINKING ON ENROLLMENT NUMBERS YOU'VE GOTTEN THE DISTRICT TO, TO PUT THAT FORWARD.
AND AS THE DISTRICT COMES UP WITH THE IDEAS OF CLOSING SCHOOLS OR CONSOLIDATING, I HOPE YOU WILL HELP THEM RE-ENVISION WITH YOUR ORGANIZATIONS AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO YOU SEE TODAY, CARPENTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COMES TO YOU WITH 886 KIDS IN AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOULD AND, AND A WAIT LIST, PROBABLY OF 400 MORE PEOPLE.
AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE THAT LARGE.
AND IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STATE, THERE ARE NO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND DISTRICTS OF THE PROPORTION OF A HUNDRED AND SEVENTH STREET, WHICH YOU SEE TODAY AT 753 KIDS OR VALERIO AT 672.
SO DON'T THINK OF JUST LOW ENROLLMENT.
THINK OF HOW YOU COULD HELP THE DISTRICT MOVE ON, RE-ENVISIONING THESE THINGS.
UM, ON, UM, THE MOU, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE, UH, THE ACTING SUPERINTENDENT CH COME.
HE'S BEEN HERE A A MONTH ALREADY.
UH, I HOPE HE DOESN'T WAIT TWO YEARS, UH, TO COME AND VISIT.
IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE HIM HERE AND TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE TWO YEAR LOGGER JAM YOU'VE HAD WITH THE MOU.
UM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU FOCUSING ON COOPS IN THERE AND THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE PURSUING.
EITHER ALL OF YOU SHOULD STAND UP AND HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE, BUT TO SIT HERE FOR TWO YEARS, MICKEY MOUNTING OVER THAT MOU WHEN IT IS THE PUBLIC'S VIEW IN EVERY BOND ELECTION THAT YOU EXIST.
AND THEY VOTE BECAUSE THERE'S TWO HOUSES HERE.
IT'S NOT JUST THE BUREAUCRACY, BUT IT'S AN OUTSIDE COMMITTEE THAT EVALUATES THESE THINGS.
SO LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A LIT, LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE.
NOW, YOU ALSO HAVE THE IG AND THE IG CAME, WASN'T PART OF THE PRESENTATION BY MR. BUCKMAN, BUT THE IG CAME AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, ON THE HEELS OF THE BELMONT, UH, FACILITIES FIASCO.
UM, LET ME JUST SAY THAT YOU NEED TO INPUT SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS IN A GREATER WAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE SPENDING, UH, SOMEWHERE OVER $600 MILLION ON THE THREE SCHOOLS IN THE PALISADES.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE AUDIT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ONTO THE FEMA.
DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S GOING ON TO FEMA OR YOU'RE JUST GONNA TAKE IT FROM THE POOR DISTRICTS AND SEND IT TO THE WEST SIDE? YOU OUGHTA HAVE SOME SORT OF EVALUATION THERE.
THE BUSES, YOU'RE APPROVING BUSES AND BUS DEPOTS.
DO YOU TRULY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THOSE PLACES? DO YOU KNOW THAT BUS DRIVERS CHOOSE NOT TO GO ON THE ELECTRIC BUSES BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO UPHILL VERY WELL? ONE OF THEM EVEN BLEW UP ON THE NEWS.
THEY'VE BEEN RECALLED, AND YET YOU'RE EXPENDING BOND OVERSIGHT MONEY.
YOU SHOULD TAKE A DEEPER LOOK ALWAYS AT THE END OF YOUR COMMITTEE.
YOU HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS OF IT MONEY, A BILLION DOLLARS, AND IT ALWAYS COMES AT THE LAST ITEM.
YOU SHOULD DEDICATE A WHOLE MEETING AND USE
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OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.YOUR CONCERNS OVER THE AUDITORS.
DID YOU NOTICE THAT THE IGE IS AUDITING THE AUDITORS? UH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANNA PUT IN IN YOUR CONCERNS.
THEY'RE ALSO AUDITING, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, LET ME CONTINUE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE REALLY QUITE GOING QUITE SLOW.
OH, YOU HAVE PINNER CONSTRUCTION IN, IN THE IG PLAN.
PINNER CONSTRUCTION IS ONLY BEING AUDITED ON ONE SCHOOL.
THE DISTRICT WON'T EVEN GIVE THEM MORE CONTRACTS BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD SIX OR SEVEN SCHOOLS WITH PROBLEMS. DID YOU KNOW THAT? BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT PINNER.
INVITE PINNER TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND LET THEM TELL YOU DIRECTLY WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND WHY THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS IN VARIOUS PLACES.
AND SCOTT, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT BEING SORT OF A NAIVE CITIZEN RATHER THAN A TECHNICAL EXPERT.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOU AND SPEAK FROM THE DISTRICT LIKE ME AND LIKE SCOTT, WE HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, OKAY? WE'RE NOT ARCHITECTS, WE'RE NOT ENGINEERS, WE'RE NOT CONTRACTORS.
BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM FACILITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, HISTORY MAJORS OR SPANISH MAJORS, AND YET THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND PRESENTING TO YOU.
SO, DRILL DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND THANK YOU.
UH, ASK WHY THE SHADE STRUCTURES COST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, AND WHY WE'RE NOW VENTURING LIKE NO OTHER DISTRICT INTO HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EARTHQUAKE TO BE THE FIRST DISTRICT IN THE WORLD TO MODERNIZE OUR EARTHQUAKE STATUS.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, STAFF? THANK YOU WITH THAT.
[2. Consent Calendar]
AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.UM, THIS CONCLUDES OUR MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 30TH, 2026.
DO ANY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE MINUTES WITH THAT? IS THERE A MOTION? ALL MOTION SULLIVAN? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND BY PALLADIAN, PLEASE VOTE FOR MR. UH, SORRY, TIM.
I I CAN DO THAT TOO THOUGH, BUT YOU CAN ASK FOR THE VOTE.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE CONSENT CALENDAR, THE BOC MINUTES FROM THE APRIL MEETING.
UH, I'M GOING TO GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND OFFICERS VOTE LAST.
WE HAVE A LOT OF VOTES TODAY, JUST SO YOU HAVE A HEADS UP ON THAT.
CONSENT CALENDAR IS APPROVED WITH 13 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.
[3. BOC Annual Election]
ON THE AGENDA, UH, IS THE BOC ANNUAL ELECTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME, UH, OUR BOC INDEPENDENT LEGAL COUNSEL, JOEL BUCKMAN, TO CONDUCT THE ELECTION.THANK YOU CHAIR HAMNER, UH, GOOD MORNING BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE, THE MATTER OF THE ANNUAL ELECTION OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE'S, OFFICERS, AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
UM, THE, THE OFFICES ARE FOR THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, SECRETARY, AND THEN TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS WHO SERVE ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AS PROVIDED IN THE, UH, IN THE BO C'S BYLAWS.
SO, UM, TO COMMENCE THE ELECTION, I'LL, UH, OFFER TO TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIR.
UH, OR IF ANYBODY WISHES TO MAKE A SLATE, UM, WE CAN CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE A SLATE OF CANDIDATES.
UH, SO FOR CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MICHAEL HAMNER, UH, FOR VICE CHAIR ROBERT CAMPBELL FOR SECRETARY DR.
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MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, PATRICK MCFARLAND.AND FOR AT LARGE MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, SCOTT PANSKY.
SO, UH, SLATE HAS BEEN NOMINATED OF, UH, THE CHAIR, UH, AS MICHAEL HAMNER, VICE CHAIR ROBERT CAMPBELL.
UM, AND AT LARGE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBER PATRICK MCFARLAND AND SCOTT PANSKY.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO PROCEEDING BY SLATE? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, UM, I WOULD AS THE, UH, OFFICER OF THE ELECTION CALL FOR A, A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
I'LL SECOND BY MR. SO BY MEMBER SULLIVAN.
ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
UH, MR. UH, DE POPE JOY, COULD YOU CALL A VOTE? YES, MS. BELL? AYE.
THE, UH, SLATE IS APPROVED WITH 15 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES? VERY, VERY GOOD.
CONGRATULATIONS WITH NOMINATIONS CLOSED.
UM, THE, UH, SLATE IS ELECTED BY ACCLIMATION, BUT THANK YOU.
UH, OFFICES TAKE, UH, START ON JULY 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2027.
UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN REMAIN THERE.
UM, JOE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
[4. BOC Charter and MOU]
THE BOC PROPOSED, UH, PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE MOU.AND WITH THAT, UH, CONTINUE TO WELCOME BOC INDEPENDENT COUNSEL JOE BUCKMAN TO MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE BOC CHARTER AND THE MOU.
AND THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR HAMNER.
SO, WHEN I WAS WITH YOU LAST MEETING, UM, I REVIEWED THE HISTORY OF THE, UH, THE MOU AND ALLUDED TO THE, THE, UH, PROPOSED REVISIONS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM THE DISTRICT IN WHICH WE RECEIVED THE BALANCE OF, UH, ON THE DAY OF OUR LAST MEETING, UM, AT THE REQUEST OF CHAIR HAMNER, I PREPARED AND PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING, A MEMORANDUM.
UM, THAT RE THAT, UH, GOES THROUGH THE FIRST, THE INTRODUCTION AREA IS THE HISTORY OF OUR EFFORTS TO FULFILL THE, THE, THE PROVISIONS OF THE MOU FOR PERIODICALLY LOOKING AT THE MOU AND TO SEE IF REVISIONS ARE INDICATED SHOULD BE MADE, HOW TO, HOW WE'VE MADE THOSE, THAT THERE WAS A TASK FORCE THAT PUT TOGETHER PROPOSED REVISIONS.
UM, THOSE WERE COMMUNICATED TO DISTRICT STAFF, UM, WHEN NO RESPONSE WAS HEARD OTHER THAN INFORMAL RESPONSES.
UH, EVEN AFTER, UH, MANY REMINDERS.
UH, LAST AUGUST, THE COMMITTEE, UH, APPROVED A, UH, RESOLUTION TO ADOPT AS ITS PROPOSAL, AS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE'S PROPOSAL FOR REVISIONS, A SET, UH, OF PROPOSED REVISIONS THAT WERE COMMUNICATED DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
FOLLOWING THAT, THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE, PRIMARILY THROUGH MR. TORRENS, UM, HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH US AND INDICATED THAT THE, THE REVISIONS WERE ON THEIR WAY OR THEIR PROPOSALS.
AND SO THOSE WERE EVENTUALLY RECEIVED, UH, ON, IN FULL ON THE LAST MEETING.
SO IN LOOKING AT THE, UH, WHAT COMPARING THE TWO SETS OF REVISIONS, WHAT WE AS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAD PROPOSED, UH, IN THE SPIRIT OF ENSURING THAT, UM, OVERSIGHT CONTINUES TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE, UM, WE PUT FORWARD AND I, IN MY MEMO, I CITED A FEW, NOT ALL OF THE CHANGES 'CAUSE THAT'S IN THE, IN THE, UM, RESOLUTION OF AUGUST, BUT SOME VERY SPECIFIC ONES THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE ONES I WAS GONNA COMPARE TO
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WHAT THE DISTRICT HAS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING.UM, THE RESOLUTIONS ARE THE, UH, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THEY ADDRESS THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN SINCE THE LAST, UH, AMENDMENTS WERE MADE.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL IN MY VIEW, OF WHAT THE PROCESS FOR, UH, MAKING REVISIONS IS.
WE, WERE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT ALL THE TIME.
EVERY, EVERY YEAR THINGS COME UP.
AND IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP THAT CAUSE FRICTION, WHERE A PATH FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF VIEWS AND WE MAYBE WORK OUT A, A COLLABORATIVE WAY FORWARD, GREAT.
PUT THAT IN THE MOU SO THAT FUTURE GROUPS KNOW THAT THAT WAS DONE, HOW IT WAS DEALT WITH BEFORE, AND THEY CAN JUST BENEFIT FROM THOSE LESSONS LEARNED WHERE THERE'S ALSO FRICTION AND NO RESOLUTION HAPPEN.
THEN WE ASK FOR WHAT WE SEE AS THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE THAT OVERSIGHT CONTINUES AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO, IN THAT SPIRIT, UM, WE HAD PROPOSED REVISIONS, UH, THAT MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE AUDITORS WHO DO THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL AND PERFORMANCE AUDIT IN THEIR SCOPING AND, UM, VIEWS AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE THINK WOULD, WOULD AID US BEING THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO, TO FIND OUT INFORMATION THAT'S HELPFUL AS MR. KOSKI, UH, URGES THE COMMITTEE TO DO EVERY TIME HE COMES TO SPEAK.
AND WHICH AS THE, UH, THE PROXIES FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, THIS COMMITTEE IS.
SO WE HAD PROPOSED SOME CHANGES OR ADDITIONS THERE.
ALSO, THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP, UM, REGARDING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION, WHICH THE, UH, BOARD PASSED TO FUND PARTICULAR PROJECTS, AND WHICH THOSE PROJECTS WERE NOT, UM, SHOWN TO THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR ITS TAKE ON WHETHER THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE GOOD OR BAD, OR WHETHER THE FUNDING MECHANISM ITSELF WAS A GOOD IDEA, UM, THE WAY IT WAS SET UP.
UM, AND THE REASON WE WERE TOLD THE, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WASN'T TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WAS 'CAUSE THE FUNDING WAS NOT FROM BONDS.
BUT HISTORY TOLD US THAT VERY OFTEN, I MEAN, EVERY TIME THIS DISTRICT HAS ISSUED COOPS FOR, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THEY EVENTUALLY ASK THE, THE VOTERS TO PAY THOSE OFF, DEFE THEM WITH BOND FUNDS.
'CAUSE IT'S, THE COP PS ARE PAID OUT OF GENERAL FUND MONEY VERSUS BOND FUNDS.
AND THAT HAPPENED AGAIN WITH THIS ONE.
SO WE PROPOSED IN THE, UH, IN THE RE IN THE AMENDMENTS TO SAY THAT IF THE DISTRICT DOES THAT, THAT IF THEY'RE THINKING THEY MAY IN THE FUTURE WANT TO HAVE BOND FUNDS, DEFE THOSE COOPS, THAT THEY AGREE, THEY'LL BRING IT TO THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY AGREE THEY WON'T SEEK TO DEFEASE THEM WITH BOND FUNDS.
THAT WAS A PROPOSAL THAT WE MADE, UM, BECAUSE OF AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP.
UH, AND THEN MAYBE I DIDN'T CONNECT THE DOTS THERE.
THEY DID EVENTUALLY DEFE THOSE BONDS, I MEAN THE COOPS WITH BOND FUNDS.
BUT ALL THEY ASKED US AS THE, AS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW WAS DEFE, THE COOPS, NOT THE UNDERLYING PROJECTS.
THOSE COMPLETELY BYPASS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
AND TO AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN THE LAST EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS, UM, INTERFERENCE WITH THE, UH, THE BOC STAFF AND THE, UH, OFFICE FOR THE BOC.
UM, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHEN IT WAS FIRST FORMED, HAD NO LOCATION.
UM, AND IT WAS HARD FOUGHT, UH, BY THE THEN COMMITTEE TO GET AN OFFICE, UH, IN HEADQUARTERS, UH, NEAR THE, UH, THE DIVISION THAT IT PRIMARILY WAS INVOLVED WITH FACILITY SERVICES DIVISION.
AND THAT, THAT OFFICE HAS BEEN THE LOCATION, MANY, MOST OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THERE TO, TO GET YOUR, UH, WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, YOU GET A, UH, ONE OF THESE, AND IT'S A PLACE FOR THE STAFF TO MEET WITH YOU.
IT'S WHERE THE STAFF TALKS WITH, UH, YOU OR WITH, UH, LEADERSHIP ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
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THOSE DIVISIONS THAT THEY, THEY WORK WITH, THAT THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WORKS WITH.AND THEY TAKE THEIR DIRECTION, UH, IN THE MOU, UH, FROM THE CHAIR OF THE O OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, STANDING IN FOR ALL OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY, UH, THE DISTRICT AGREES THAT THEY ARE TO DO.
UM, AND THEY INTERACT WITH ME AS THE INDEPENDENT LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND WITH THE OVERSIGHT CONSULTANT.
AND THEY HAVE THAT OFFICE TO, TO, UM, TO WORK WITH.
AND THE OFFICE HAS A DOOR, AND THE DOOR LOCK HAS A LOCK ON IT.
I POINT THAT OUT IN MEMORY OF ROBERT GARCIA, WHO WAS THE, UH, THE FIRST CHAIR THAT I WORKED UNDER.
AND HE LOBBIED FOR THAT VERY HARD.
UM, THE, UH, THERE ARE SENSITIVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND THAT PRIVACY, THAT SECURITY OF, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH IT DOES ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC, AND TO MAKE THE DISTRICT'S PROCESSES MORE EFFECTIVE, UH, IS IN THE INTEREST OF ALL.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, THOSE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF WHY WE PROPOSE SOME CHANGES.
WHEN WE GOT THE, THE, UH, DISTRICT'S RESPONSES, EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROPOSALS THAT I JUST CI CITED HAVE BEEN REJECTED.
THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, UH, AGREE WITH ANY OF THAT.
BUT WE COULD HAVE A, WE, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A, A CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM.
UM, BUT THEY ALSO WANTED TO MAKE, AND I PUT IN MY MEMO A FEW CATEGORIES OF CHANGES THAT I THOUGHT WERE OF A SPECIAL CONCERN.
FIRST CATEGORY WAS BASICALLY ELIMINATING THOSE STATEMENTS OF THE MISSION AND PURPOSE OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT ARE IN THE MOU AND WHICH HAVE BEEN AGREED TO SINCE, UM, THE 2002 VER, UH, MOU THAT I WAS, UM, PART OF, UH, CREATING.
UM, AND WHAT WE RECITE EVERY TIME, UH, WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE'S MISSION AND PURPOSE IS TO BE STRONG AND INDEPENDENT.
UM, SECOND CATEGORY WAS THAT I NOTED WAS, AND WHICH I ALLUDED TO IN MY, UH, PRESENTATION LAST MEETING, WHICH IS HOW THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE SELECTED.
UM, THE COMPROMISE MADE THEN, BACK IN 2002, WAS THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPOINT THE NOMINEES, NOT THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER THEM OR DECIDE IF IT WAS POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT TO APPOINT OR REFUSE APPOINTMENT OF A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL, BUT INSTEAD TO APPOINT WHO THE INDEPENDENT STAKEHOLDERS OR THE PEOPLE THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAD AGREED TO PARTICIPATE PAID FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, UH, THE BOND, UH, PROJECTS, THE BOND, UH, PROGRAM, WHO THEY PUT FORWARD AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND, UH, I ALSO NOTED THAT CERTAIN ELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF LA, UM, THAT THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
AND THE VERY FIRST CHAIR OF THE PROPOSITION BB OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UM, WAS STEVE SOOF.
AND HE WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF MAYOR REARDEN ON THE OVER ON THE BLUE RIBBON OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
HE WAS NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE, OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
HE, HE DIDN'T WIN, BUT HE WAS NOT.
SO THE HISTORY OF THE, UH, AND THE TRADITIONS OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, DO NOT REQUIRE THAT.
BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WISH, UH, THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSALS ANYWAY INCLUDED.
UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS THEY WANT TO, UH, REMOVE ANY, UH, ASSURANCE THAT THE, UH, THAT THE BOC STAFF, UH, WOULD BE, UM, MORE DIRECT UNDER THE DIRECT CONTROL OF THE, OF THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
AND THAT THEY WOULD BE MORE CLOSELY UNDER THE CONTROL, SPECIFICALLY OF THE CFO'S OFFICE, WHICH IS ALSO IN CHARGE OF THE AUDITS THAT ARE DONE FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE MOVED WELL AND NO ASSURANCE THAT THEIR LOCATION WOULD BE MOVED OUT OF THE OFFICE.
THAT THEY'VE, THAT THE, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE'S OFFICE HAS BEEN, UM, FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
SO THE RATIONALE THAT, UM, THE DISTRICT HAS PUT FORWARD OR CITED OVER
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AND OVER AGAIN, UM, AS TO WHY THEIR CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE, UM, IS BASED ON A VERY SHORT STATEMENT IN THE SPECIAL REVIEW THAT WAS DONE IN 2022, WHICH ALLUDED TO THE POTENTIAL, UM, THAT, AND I'LL READ IT FOR THE RECORD, BUT IN THEIR REPORT, THEY WROTE, GIVEN THE BROAD AUTHORITY AND RESPONSIBILITY GIVEN TO THE BOC, THERE IS A, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE BBOC TO ENCROACH UPON THE GOVERNANCE AND DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND DISTRICT MANAGEMENT TO AVOID POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WITH THE BOC AND THE GOVERNANCE AND DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY OF THE BOE AND SUPERINTENDENT AND DISTRICT MANAGEMENT.THE AUTHORITY OR LANE OF THE BOC COULD BE CLARIFIED AS PART OF THE AMENDMENT OF THE BOC CHARTER, MOU.
THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE TO CONSIDER THE REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTIONS AND BOND MEASURES, GIVING THE BOC ITS AUTHORITY.
SO IN THERE, UH, THE RED LINE THAT THEY GAVE US BACK, THEY CITE TO THAT AS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THESE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WOULD CHANGE THE, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY, UM, AND I WILL ATTEST THAT OF COURSE, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS ADVISORY ONLY.
WE ARE NOT TAKING ANYBODY'S DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY AWAY.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T, YOU'RE NOT ELECTED.
THE BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS THAT AUTHORITY AND THEY DELEGATE IT, OR, AND THEY USE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND DISTRICT STAFF TO DO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE AGREED THAT THIS BODY WOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM.
AND STATE LAW BACKS UP WHAT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR ENTITLED TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AUDITS AND FINANCIAL AUDITS IN ASKING FOR INFORMATION TO ENABLE YOU TO GIVE THAT ADVICE.
IN MY OPINION, THAT IS NOT ENCROACHING ON ANY, UH, DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY.
IT'S ASKING FOR INFORMATION ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT GIVEN THEN THE COMMITTEE'S ADVICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS IT AND EFFECTIVE AS IT COULD BE.
UH, I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT THERE.
UM, SO AT THE CONCLUSION OF MY MEMO, I, I POINTED OUT THAT THE, UH, THE RESOLUTION IN, UH, AUGUST HAD ASKED THE, THAT WHEN THE COM, WHEN THE DISTRICT'S RESPONSE IS RECEIVED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT THE, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAD PROPOSED THAT THE CHAIR BE, UM, CHARGED WITH, UH, WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, DISTRICT, UH, THE SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD TO FIND A, A MECHANISM PROCESS WHERE THOSE, THE PROPOSALS COULD BE WORKED THROUGH TO HOPEFULLY A FINAL, UH, A FINAL FORM, UM, THAT IS STILL POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT I POINT OUT THAT IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS THAT MAYBE THESE ARE THERE PARTIES ARE TOO FAR APART AT THIS POINT, UM, THAT AN OPTION WOULD BE TO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO, TO NOT GO FORWARD ANY FURTHER IN THIS CYCLE.
UM, IF THE MOU IS FOLLOWED, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER INDEPENDENT REVIEW IN 2027, UM, AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE MOU FOLLOWING THE RECEIPT OF, OF THAT INDEPENDENT REVIEW REPORT.
SO I LAID OUT THREE, THREE OPTIONS THAT EXIST IN THEORY, I FEEL YOU
UM, ONE IS TO ACCEPT THE BOARD'S, I MEAN THE, UH, DISTRICT'S PROPOSALS, AND WE'RE DONE.
UM, TWO WOULD BE TO CONTINUE WITH NEGOTIATIONS, UM, IN THIS CYCLE.
AND THE THIRD WOULD BE TO JUST WAIT, UM, TO, TO BASICALLY TABLE ANY CHANGES TO THE MOU FOR THIS CYCLE.
AND I'D, THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ASK, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR INVITE THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THIS AMONG THEMSELVES.
AND, AND, AND COMMENTARY REAL QUICKLY, WHEN I SPOKE TO,
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UH, JOE, MR. BUCKMAN BEFORE HE CAME UP, I'M GONNA MAKE A SHORT STATEMENT.I'M, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE DETAIL AND REALLY THE INVESTMENT, UM, THAT THE PRIOR VOCS, OUR CURRENT BOC AS IT'S HAD IN THIS DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, IN RELATION TO WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED, FINALLY, FROM THE, FROM THE DISTRICT, LET SET IT UP AND THEN LET EVERYBODY ELSE COMMENT.
UM, I THINK YOU'VE ALL RECEIVED ALSO, UH, A HANDOUT THAT IDENTIFIES THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN, UH, COMMENTED ON BY THE DISTRICT.
UH, THAT IS THEIR, UH, STRIKETHROUGHS AND RATIONALIZATIONS, WHICH WERE SUMMARIZED BY, BY JOE.
UM, I WANT TO CORRECT OUR SPEAKER.
UM, IT'S THREE YEARS WE'VE BEEN THIS, THIS SUMMER.
UH, WE, WE PUT TOGETHER THE MOU TASK FORCE THREE YEARS AGO, MAY, AND WE DID OUR DUTY DURING THE SUMMER AND PRESENTED THE, OUR RELEVANTLY UPDATED MOU ORIGINALLY IN THAT SEPTEMBER WHEN WE CAME BACK FOR THE ACADEMIC YEAR.
AND IT SAT FOR TWO YEARS UNTIL LAST SUMMER.
AND DURING THAT TIME, BECAUSE A NEW, WE WERE, FIRST OF ALL, WE WERE ONE YEAR LATE IN OUR FIVE YEAR CYCLE TO UPDATE THE MOU.
SO WE ARE ALREADY BEHIND, IT'S FIVE YEARS SINCE 2002.
AND WE'VE NOW GONE THROUGH THIS ENCROACHING ON THE SECOND, THE NEXT CYCLE AFTER THAT, WE DECIDED TO MAKE SOME MORE RELEVANT CHANGES BASED ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
I MEAN, THE IDEA OF THE BOC IS TO STAY CURRENT AND RELEVANT, AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY OVERSEEING 36 BILLION PLUS DOLLARS OF BOND FUNDS IN OUR, IN OUR HISTORY AND, AND SOME 10, 11, 12 BILLION STILL TO COME.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE MADE THESE OPPORTUNITY, WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOW BRING UP SOME MORE RELEVANT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MOU.
UM, I HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY MET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, TO GET THIS MOVING AFTER WE WERE DELAYED WITH PROMISES THAT WOULD BE, UM, LOOKED AT IN A EFFICIENT AND POST-HASTE MENTALITY.
WE HAD THE ELECTION THAT SLOWED US DOWN.
WE HAD A FIRE THAT SLOWED US DOWN.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER THINGS AND LIFE HAPPENS, BUT THE DELAYS OF THIS AMOUNT OF TIME HAS BEEN ONE THAT'S BEEN, UH, DIFFICULT.
AND THEN TO FINALLY RECEIVE THIS AT MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING OF OUR LAST MEETING MINUTES, LIKE NINE 30, UM, AND NOT HAVING REALLY A CHANCE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT FOR THAT MEETING LAST MEETING, AND NOW HAVE THE, THE PAST MONTH TO REALLY KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
JOE DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING THE HISTORY OF IT.
EVEN FOR ME, IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING.
UM, NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF SEE THIS AND FEEL EVEN MORE AS ONE OF THE, YOU'VE HAD AN AUTHOR HERE THAT SPOKE PUBLICLY.
YOU'VE HAD SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING CRAFT THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE RESPONSIBILITY TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC WHO'S ENTRUSTED US AT 36 PLUS BILLION AND MAYBE EVEN MORE IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT THEM AS AN ADVISORY ROLE WITH OUR VARIED EXPERIENCES OF LIFE AND SKILL TO GIVE ADVICE TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR OPINION, TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
BUT TO TAKE THAT DOWN AND TO REDUCE THAT WITH THE COMPLEXITY THAT L-A-U-S-D IS, AND LOOK AT, WE'VE ALL TAKEN DIFFERENT ROLES, AUDITS, GREEN TURF, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE OTHER DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE, WE HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE IN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, IN OUR COMMENTS, IF YOU RESTRICT DOWN THAT RESPONSIBILITY, YOU HAND PICK THE MEMBERS OF YOUR BOC, YOU DON'T HAVE AN INDEPENDENCE ANYMORE.
THAT'S MY, UH, SOAPBOX WITH THAT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMENTS.
I FEEL MS. KAISER FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES NOW,
SO I'M GONNA START WITH HER AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND THE ROOM, OF COURSE.
AND, AND, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HAS COMMENTS, MS. KAISER, THANK YOU.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO YOUR, YOUR SENTIMENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TIMING IN WHICH I THINK THAT THIS AND THE CHANGES ARE JUST IN POOR TASTE.
THE REASON BEING IS WE JUST HAD THE VOTERS PASS ANOTHER $9 BILLION BOND THAT COMPETED WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND TO OVERSEE THAT AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AND TO, TO MAKE THESE MODIFICATIONS NOW, I THINK WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE TO THE INTENT OF WHAT THOSE DOLLARS WERE MEANT FOR.
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THE ASSET THAT ALL OF US HERE PROVIDE IN OUR DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, AS YOU MENTIONED TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, WHO AREN'T NECESSARILY THE EXPERTS IN CONSTRUCTION OR, OR OR WHATNOT.AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT WE'RE ALSO HERE TO BE A, A TOOL IN THEIR TOOL BELT AND NOT, UM, A, A COMPLEXITY, UM, IN THEIR PROCESS.
UM, BUT I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
IF, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, WHEN YOU SAY THE DISTRICT, CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC AS TO WHO THE DIRECTION OF THIS IS, IS COMING FROM? THE COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY? 'CAUSE I THINK THE DISTRICT IS PRETTY GENERAL.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS IF YOU COULD ELABORATE MORE ON THE ESSENTIAL NEED FOR COLLABORATION AND, AND WHAT SPECIFIC, UM, I GUESS DISCREPANCIES HAVE THERE BEEN THAT WE'VE RAN INTO, UM, THAT ARE REALLY THE REASON WHY WE NEED THE COLLABORATION? UM, SURE.
UM, I BELIEVE THE COMMENTS ARE FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE.
UM, I, THE, UH, THERE ARE INITIALS ON THE COMMENTS, BUT, UM, IT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE IMP PRADA.
SO I WOULDN'T TRY TO ZERO IN ON ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL OTHER THAN IT'S COMING FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE.
AND, AND, AND THIS IS THE ACTING SUPERINTENDENT OR THE FORMER SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE BEST I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE MEET, MET WITH THE, THE, THE CURRENT, NOT THE INTERIM, THE CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS STAFF.
SO THAT'S WHO I'VE BEEN RECEIVING THIS INFORMATION FROM.
THIS, THIS DOCUMENT CAME VIA THE SECOND, AND I'M NOT SURE OF MR. TORRANCE'S EXACT TITLE, BUT FROM MR. TORRENS WHO WORKS DIRECTLY WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, UH, THAT OUR AMENDMENTS WERE AIMED AT, UM, THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT I HAVE FRESH IN MY MIND.
UM, THE ONES THAT I, I ALLUDED TO, UM, AS TO WHY WE WERE, UM, WANTING THEM.
I THINK THE AUDIT ISSUES HAVE BEEN THE MOST, UH, FRONT OF MIND.
UM, THAT WAS A, THERE WAS FRICTION OVER THAT BEFORE.
UM, THERE WAS AN, WE HAD AN AUDIT TASK FORCE THAT LOOKED INTO AN ISSUE OVER, OVER HOW THE AUDITS WERE BEING DONE.
UM, AND IT WAS THERE, THE COMMENTS WERE INFORMED BY THAT ACTION.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN ONE THAT I WOULD CITE.
AND IT'S, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, THAT ISSUE IN THE VERY NEXT ITEM HERE TODAY.
UM, THE, UH, THE, THE ISSUE WITH STAFF AND THE, UH, OFFICE THAT CAME UP VERY RECENTLY WITHIN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UM, AND THEN COP FUNDING THAT CAME UP TWO OR SO YEARS AGO, UM, WHERE THEY JUST, UH, DIDN'T BRING THE PROJECTS THAT WERE BEING FUNDED BY THE COOPS OR ASKED FOR ANY INPUT FROM THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE OVER, YOU KNOW, DESPITE OUR INQUIRY INTO IT, ANTICIPATING THAT THE, UH, BOND FUNDS WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ASKED FOR TO, TO DEFEASE THEM.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, THANK YOU.
YEAH, I WANTED TO ADD, BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE STATING, ONE OF THESE ISSUES.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CRYING WOLF.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS COULD HAPPEN.
UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH STAFF DID HAPPEN.
THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT BY CFO WHO'S NO LONGER HERE, UH, TO RELOCATE AND REMOVE THE FACILITIES SECURITY OF OUR STAFF.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE THREATS ARE, ARE VERY REAL AND VERY MUCH A CONCERN.
AND SO THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE TO BE DISCUSSED AND, AND TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND SOME OF 'EM ARE NOT JUST THEORY, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN MERGING AS REALITY WITH THAT.
WELL, OTHER QUESTIONS ARE COMMENTS FROM OTHER, UH, MR. SULLIVAN? FIRST, MR. SULLIVAN, I'LL GET YOU NEXT.
I WE CAN CALL THIS MORE A COMMENT AND, AND I, I, I, I'VE READ YOUR, UH, YOUR REPORT AND I'VE SEEN THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS AS YOU'VE LISTED THEM AT THE END.
UM, AND I, I SORT OF TO ECHO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT COMMENTER TODAY, GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THIS PROCESS, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE BO C'S PROPOSED CHANGES AND THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSED CHANGES ARE SO FAR APART, I MEAN, NOT EVEN IN THE SAME REALITY.
AND REALLY THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSED CHANGES SEEK TO ESSENTIALLY WEAKEN THE ABILITY OF THIS COMMITTEE TO DO WHAT IT
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IS INTENDED TO DO.AND GIVEN THAT THE VOTERS HAVE ESSENTIALLY, LARGELY THROUGH MEASURE K, PROVIDED THIS COMMITTEE WITH MOST OF ITS AUTHORITY, WHICH AGAIN, AS YOU STATED, IS JUST TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ESSENTIALLY ASK QUESTIONS.
GIVEN OUR THIRD, THE ONE I DIDN'T MENTION, WHICH IS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT, IS THERE A REASON THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING TO THE PRESS WITH THIS? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE ARE LOUDER VENUES FOR WHICH WE COULD BE HEARD.
AND AND I VERY MUCH THINK THAT THE TAXPAYERS IN VALLEY COUNTY AND HERE AT L-A-U-S-D WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO DO HERE.
IS THERE ANY REASON WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT? IT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COMMITTEE.
IT'S TO ANYBODY TO SPEAK TO THE PRESS IF THEY WISH, JUST TO ASK, UH, MR. MR. CHAIR, IS THERE, HAS THAT BEEN LOOKED AT, UM, AS FAR AS GOING TO THE PRESS WITH THIS? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, MAKING THIS A MORE PUBLIC ISSUE? YEAH, OF COURSE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF HELD ON A LINE FOR A WHILE HERE.
BEING GOOD STEWARD WORDS OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
I GOT YOU, MRS. DR. MILLER, I'LL GET YOU.
WE'VE, UH, CONTINUED TO TRY TO WORK THIS.
YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, WE PROVIDED OUR DOCUMENT THREE YEARS AGO.
THIS IS THE FIRST FULL RESPONSE DOCUMENT.
WE DID RECEIVE A PARTIAL REVIEW, UM, BACK IN DECEMBER.
AND THAT WAS OF THE FIRST SIX SECTIONS, UM, MUCH DIFFERENT DOCUMENT THAN WHAT WE SEE HERE IN TOTALITY.
SO NOW WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THIS IS WHY WE'RE ALL ENGAGED.
WE FINALLY RECEIVED THIS DOCUMENT, OUR DUTY TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER, AND VIA THE, WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS, IS NOW TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY.
THIS IS NOW, WE, WE JUST RECEIVED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.
SO THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS WOULD PROBABLY BE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER, WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS, I THINK, AND I, I'M NOT, I'M BEING, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE CLOSE TO MY EYE, YOU KNOW, PERIPHERAL, AND I'M NOT COUNTING OUT.
BUT I KNOW MS. BEU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ASK.
SO MY QUESTION IS, THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE ENGAGED IN THIS TOO.
SO IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE TALKING TO THEM AND COMING BACK TO US, OR IS THIS JUST THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION? OR IS IT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS? UM, WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT IS, BECAUSE THAT SPEAKS TO A CONCERN TO ME.
'CAUSE I'VE OFTEN FELT THAT WE WERE ADVISORY, BUT NOBODY WAS LISTENING.
I MEAN, WE DO A LOT OF DELIBERATION, WE MAKE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY GO AND DO THEIR THING LIKE THIS MEETING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT US TO BE HERE, AND SO THEY JUST GO AND DO THEIR THING.
SO I WONDER IF THERE'S DIALOGUE WITH THEM AND THIS HAS COME OUT OF THAT AS WELL.
UH, MRS. LEL, LEMME TAKE MR. CAMPBELL, THEN I'M GONNA COME BACK TO YOU, PLEASE.
NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. CAMPBELL'S DEFERRING, THIS IS AUDIO, WHICH IS PROBABLY, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
UM, THERE SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, OKAY, GO AHEAD, TRY AGAIN.
WELL, THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM HERE WITH ME.
MY QUESTION IS, HE'S TALKING ABOUT SUPERINTENDENT, UM, LET, CAN WE NAME NAMES CARVALLO? HE IS STILL THE SUPERINTENDENT.
YES, HE IS OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE SUPERINTENDENT CARVALLO, THAT'S WHO'S BEING REFERRED TO HERE AND THAT'S COMING FROM CARVALLO, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
I, I THINK REVIEWED IN ITS ENTIRETY, THE PLAIN LANGUAGE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSED REVISIONS IS AT LEAST TO ME, CLEAR AND UNAMBIGUOUS AND, AND CUMULATIVELY HAVE THE EFFECT WERE THAT IT BE ENACTED OF LESSENING THE ABILITY OF THE BOC TO PROVIDE FUNCTIONAL AND MINIMALLY EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT AND TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT BEFORE EXPENDITURES ARE COMMITTED TO.
I THINK THIS IS NOT ONLY CONTRARY TO THE INTENT OF THE STATUTE, WHICH REQUIRED THE CREATION OF THE BOC.
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MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S CONTRARY TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF VOTERS WHO WERE ASKED TO AND DID GIVE THE DISTRICT AUTHORITY TO EMBARK ON MASSIVE BORROWING WITH THE PROMISE THAT THE USE OF THOSE BORROWED FUNDS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ROBUST OVERSIGHT.THIS BODY CANNOT BOTH BE HELD OUT AS A PROMISED MECHANISM OF OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO OBTAIN THE ASCENT OF TAXPAYERS FOR BORROWING, WHICH THEY WILL ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR REPAYING, AND AT THE SAME TIME BE DISEMPOWERED TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PROVIDING THAT OVERSIGHT.
THE RESULT OF THESE CHANGES WOULD BE FOR THIS OVERSIGHT BODY TO BE REGULARLY ASKED TO CONSIDER PROJECTS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON LESS THAN ALL THE FACTS AND DEPRIVED OF THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION NECESSARY TO CONTEXTUALIZE PROPOSED USES OF BOND FUNDS.
AND WHERE WE DO ACCEPT THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSED CHANGES, I BELIEVE WE WOULD ABROGATE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE DISTRICT TO WHOM WE OWE A DUTY TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THIS BODY, WHICH IS GOING TO CONTINUE ON LONG AFTER ALL OF THESE MEMBERS ARE GONE.
MR. BUCKMAN REFERENCED, BUT I WANT TO BRIEFLY REVISIT SEVERAL OF THE MATTERS WHICH LED TO SOME OF THE MODEST REVISIONS WE PROPOSED.
AND THOSE INCLUDE AT ONE POINT IN TIME A REFUSAL TO ALLOW BASIC PARTICIPATION IN THE AUDIT PROCESS.
UH, WHEN FOR THE BOND PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL AUDITS, WE ARE NOT ONLY ADDRESSES OF BUT PRIMARY USERS OF THOSE AUDITS, THEY'RE NECESSARY FOR US TO PERFORM OUR BASIC OVERSIGHT ROLE, REFUSAL TO PROVIDE OTHERWISE PUBLIC INFORMATION, WHICH ULTIMATELY NECESSITATED FILING A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUEST BY THE BOC TO GET INFORMATION WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, A A QUESTIONABLE, I WILL SAY, REPRESENTATION BY A DISTRICT EXECUTIVE TO ME IN WRITING ABOUT SOMETHING AS BENIGN AS WHETHER OR NOT AN AUDIT ENTRANCE CONFERENCE WAS EVER HELD, WHICH WAS LATER DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED BY THE DISTRICT'S OUTSIDE AUDITOR AT OUR LAST PUBLIC MEETING.
AND AS WAS REFERENCED CONCERNING CONDUCT BY THE DISTRICT, THAT AT A MINIMUM, TO ME, CREATED THE APPEARANCE OF ATTEMPTING TO INTERFERE WITH THE WORKING CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF WHO DIRECTLY SUPPORT THIS BODY AND THEIR INDEPENDENCE IN CARRYING OUT THEIR DUTIES.
UM, I AM GRAVELY CONCERNED BY THE REVISIONS PROPOSED BY THE DISTRICT.
UH, AND AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, I THINK THE STRIKING OF STRONG AND INDEPENDENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOU, UH, REALLY SETS THE TONE FOR THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED REVISIONS.
UM, I, I, I DON'T SEE HOW HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN ANY WAY, UH, WITH THE WIDE GULF THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS BETWEEN OUR PROPOSAL AND THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVE FROM THE DISTRICT.
I'M GONNA GO TO THE BACK ROW AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU THIS ROW HERE, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A NEWER MEMBER TO THIS BOARD, BUT I TAKE GREAT PRIDE, AND I'M SURE YOU ALL DO AS WELL, FOR THE TRUST THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY OUR VARIOUS REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATIONS TO REPRESENT THEIR INTERESTS IN PLACE OF THE PUBLIC WHEN IT COMES TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, I LAED THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE PREPARING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, AND FRANKLY, IN LOOKING OVER WHAT THE DISTRICT IS PROPOSING, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, I'M OFFENDED BECAUSE, TO SAY THE LEAST, IT'S OVERKILL.
UM, AND I THINK SOME OF THE INFORMATION OR SOME OF THE CONCERNS COULD HAVE VERY EASILY BEEN, UH, ADDRESSED AS, UM, MR. BUCKMAN MENTIONED BY SOME SIMPLE LANGUAGE OF REITERATING THAT WE ARE IN AN ADVISORY ROLE AND SO FORTH.
IF WE WERE TO ACCEPT THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSALS, I THINK WE JUST BE A RUBBER STAMP.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ENTRUSTED TO DO.
IN FACT, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE ENTRUSTED TO DO.
AND THEREFORE, UM, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LOCK, STOCK AND BARREL, UH, JUST DISMISS, UH, AND REJECT THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSALS.
NOW, COMING BACK TO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO ANYTHING FURTHER OR MOVING FORWARD, UM, YES, THERE'S A WIDE GAP, BUT I THINK THAT I'M NOT ONE TO WALK AWAY FROM GOING BACK TO RENEGOTIATE.
AND BY RENEGOTIATE I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, MAYBE SIMPLIFYING SOME LANGUAGE TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME COMMON GROUND.
OF COURSE, THAT MAY TAKE JUST WAITING IT OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND MAYBE IF THE, UM, THE STONEWALLING IS HAPPENING THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM TO CHANGE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UH, SO JUST TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND THAT WAY.
BUT OTHERWISE, IF WE'RE JUST FACED WITH WHAT THE DISTRICT HAS PROPOSED, AGAIN, I WOULD COMPLETELY REJECT IT AND JUST STAY WITH, WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THE STATUS QUO AND SEE WHERE, WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
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MS LA.I JUST WANNA EXPAND ON WHAT MS. UM, P AND PERONE HAD SAID.
I FELT LIKE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE CHANGE, WHERE IT CHANGES THE WORD, UM, PURPOSE TO VISION.
IT SEEMED TO IMPLY THAT WHAT WE DO IS A LOFTY IDEA AS OPPOSED TO A TANGIBLE RESPONSIBILITY.
EVEN IN ED CODE, IT STATES EXPLICITLY WHAT THE BOC PURPOSE IS, AND THE CHANGE SEEM, THE CHANGE SEEMS OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
EVEN WITH ED CODE, THOUGH, THEY'RE CLAIMING THAT, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE BOC HAS EXCEEDED WHAT ED CODE OUTLINES FOR US.
I BELIEVE THAT IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE BOC REMAIN A STRONG AND INDEPENDENT BODY AS IT'S BEEN STATED HERE ALREADY.
WE'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD AS IT IS, AND REMOVING THE INDEPENDENCE REMOVES OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE IMPACTFUL OVERSIGHT.
AND EVEN GOING BACK TO MEASURE, UH, US AND THE 9 BILLION FUNDING THAT VOTERS RECENTLY PASSED, IF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION DOESN'T WANT THE BOC TO REMAIN AN INDEPENDENT AND STRONG BODY, PERHAPS THEY SHOULD TAKE THAT BACK TO THE VOTERS THAT APPROVED OF THAT BOND.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT A VOTED ON BOND DOES NOT SUPERSEDE STATE LAW OF EDUCATION CODE, I DON'T FEEL THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BACK ROW? OKAY, HERE, MR. MCFARLAND.
ANY COMMENTS OR, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I WANTED TO, UM, JUST EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR OPTION TWO TO DECLINE FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS.
I WANTED TO COMMEND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BOC THAT HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS ENGAGED IN GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED, UM, THAT IN, IN EXCHANGE FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE.
AND THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS, IS DEEPLY DISRESPECTFUL.
AND I'M, I'M DEEPLY OFFENDED BY THAT ALL OF US ARE VOLUNTEERS.
WE'RE NOT, UH, PAID TO BE HERE.
WE'RE WE'RE GIVING OF OUR TIME.
AND FROM MY, MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, THINKING BACK TWO YEARS AGO TO THE, THE TIME, THE ONE TIME THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT DID COME, UM, THERE WERE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT MEETING THAT ARE STILL MEMORABLE TO ME TODAY.
AND I THINK THAT REPRESENT FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T, UM, ON THE BOC, THEN I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK AND, AND WATCH THE VIDEO OR READ THE MINUTES AND TO, AND TO LOOK AT THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND, AND THE WAY THAT, HONESTLY, THAT THOSE QUESTIONS WERE DISMISSED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HOW ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE PLAYED OUT TO THIS POINT.
UM, SO I, I THINK FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, I, I STRONGLY SUPPORT DECLINING FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS.
AND I WOULD CALL ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION TO STEP UP AND ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE MEANINGFULLY ENGAGES WITH THE BOC TO FINALLY RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR VERY INSIGHTFUL COMMENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ECHO MY SUPPORT FOR ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE MADE SO FAR.
I, UM, I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE LIKE MR. MCFARLAND SAYING THIS IS A VOLUNTEER POSITION.
WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.
I IMAGINE MOST OF US WERE WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE KIDS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
WE JUST BELIEVE IN THE ETHOS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MR. MCFARLAND AND, AND OTHERS TO DECLINE NEGOTIATION AND TO ALSO WAIT UNTIL, UH, WE HAVE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT.
I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND MINE ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BUT SUPPORTIVE.
I'VE SERVED, THIS IS NOW GOING ON MY 11TH YEAR ON THE CITIZENS BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A YEAR DEAL DEALING WITH A HEALTH ISSUE AND MADE A PLEA PRIOR TO ME LEAVING ABOUT THE MOU AND GETTING IT COMPLETED.
AND TO KNOW THAT WE GOT IT BACK LAST MONTH WHEN I WAS BACK VERY MUCH CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE.
UH, I WAS HERE WHEN THE LAST MOU COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WAS IT, JOE, SEVEN YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT.
AND WE DIDN'T GET THE SAME KIND OF PUSHBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING TODAY.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE FORGET THE IMPACT THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS.
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CHALLENGED AND ASKED QUESTIONS NUMEROUS TIMES OF STAFF, AND I WOULDN'T SAY ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME DEFENSIVENESS.AND I UNDERSTAND THEY SPEND HOURS AND HOURS ON THEIR JOB PUTTING TOGETHER THESE BUDGETS AND PROGRAMS RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND MOST OF US, YOU KNOW, UH, DAVID, YOU TALKED ABOUT MY COMMENT ABOUT BEING NAIVE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NAIVE, BUT WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND THE QUESTIONS WE ASK COULD BE LAYMAN QUESTIONS FOR OUR AREAS OF EXPERTISE.
AND I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO THE SUPERINTENDENT A FEW TIMES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE RESPECTS THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE DO, UH, YET.
I KNOW, UH, IN THE 11 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, THAT THERE'S AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONED THAT THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND CHANGE.
AND AGAIN, WE ARE IN AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THIS INFORMATION GOES BACK TO THE DISTRICT.
UH, THE LAST ONE WAS, UH, I, I, I JUST WANNA RE BRING IT UP 'CAUSE IT'S TIMELY IS I'M REPRESENT THE LA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND I WAS AT A MEETING IN WHICH THE SUPERINTENDENT PRESENTED HIS BRAND NEW AI CONCEPT THAT WAS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED INTO THE DISTRICT.
WE HAD JUST APPROVED OVER $400 MILLION IN IT SUPPORT FOR L-A-U-S-D.
AND I HAD NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS AI PROJECT, WHICH I WOULD'VE ASSUMED THE IT DEPARTMENT WOULD'VE BROUGHT UP TO US.
THE STAFF HAD NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
THEN WE ASKED THE IT DEPARTMENT, DID THEY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT? AND THEY DEFERRED EVERY INFORMATION QUESTION REGARDING AI BACK TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND LOOK AT WHERE THE SUPERINTENDENT IS TODAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GENERATES FROM THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO TO WHERE WE ARE.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE QUESTION.
AND THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY VIA THE MOU.
IF WE DON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT TURF FIELDS.
TURF FIELDS ARE OVER $10 MILLION.
IF WE CAN GET CORPORATE SPONSORS TO HELP UNDERWRITE THAT, WE SAVE MONEY.
IF THE DISTRICT DOESN'T LOOK INTO IT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA KEEP SPENDING $10 MILLION.
IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE MOU IS SOMETHING WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR.
I DON'T THINK WE TOTALLY AVOID DISCUSSION.
I ALMOST THINK IS TAKE THE MOU COMMITTEE AND FORCE A FACE-TO-FACE MEETING WITH THE ACTING SUPERINTENDENT NOW AND MAKE CHANGES TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND, OR WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING DIRECT DIALOGUE.
I'M GLAD THEY PRESENTED SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING IN TWO YEARS.
DOESN'T MEAN WHAT THEY DID IS PERFECT, BUT IF WE DON'T TALK TO THEM, NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, OR IF THEY WON'T DO THAT, AT LEAST GIVE THEM THAT OPTION TO DO THAT.
IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE GO THE OTHER ROUTE.
UH, BUT WE HAVE PROOF OF OUR EFFORTS OVER THE YEARS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO PUSH.
IS THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS? ARE WE ALL GOOD? UM, SO THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS THAT WERE, UM, PRESENTED.
ACTUALLY, JOE, YOU HAD FLIPPED, OH, I'M JUST GONNA READ THE THREE AGAIN.
YOU HAD FLIPPED, UH, TWO OF 'EM.
ONE IS TO ACCEPT THE DISTRICT'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AS YOU'VE RECEIVED.
THE NEXT OPTION WOULD BE, OR ACTION WOULD BE DECLINE ANY FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE, THE DISTRICT TO REVISE THE MOU AT THIS CYCLE OR TIME AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT BOC REVIEW SCHEDULE FOR THE 2027 PER THE MOU SECTION 6.6.
THE REASON WHY THIS IS, UH, AN INTERESTING ALTERNATIVE TOO, UM, AND I'M NOT DISCOUNTING WHAT WAS JUST RECENTLY STATED BY MR. PANSKY, BUT AS CLARIFIED, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE, WHICH AS WE KNOW IS IN A, UM, IS IN A TRANSITION, WORKING WITH CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT MAY YIELD SOME RESULTS, BUT IT'S ALSO AN INTERIM POSITION THAT OFTENTIMES NOT USING THIS INCORRECTLY, BUT IT COULD BE A LAME DUCK POSITION WHERE YOU DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF, UH, DECISION FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE BODY.
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FOR THE NEXT BODY TO BE SELECTED BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.AND OF COURSE THERE IS, UM, THE, AS JUST MENTIONED BY YOURSELF, MR. PANSKY IS, IS MOVE FORWARD AND SEEK A METHODOLOGY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REVISIONS TO THE MOU THAT CAN MOU THAT CAN BE AGREED UPON.
UM, I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, WHICH I THINK IN GENERAL IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT WITH THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE HAD HERE NOW OVER THREE YEARS, THE ABILITY TO GET THESE MEETINGS TOGETHER, THE, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE PLAYERS IN THE ROOM OTHER THAN TWO SPOKESPERSONS, WHICH IT'S REALLY BEEN A CONDUIT ME TO THE BOARD, BOC, EXCUSE ME, COMMITTEE, AND THEN A CONDUIT, WHICH IS THROUGH MR. TORRENS.
WE'RE NOT SPEAKING WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE, OF, OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THAT TASK FORCE ON THEIR SIDE THAT ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS THAT ARE EITHER TAKING ADVICE FROM THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL, WHICH IS THE PRO, WHICH IS THE INDIVIDUALS YOU SEE THE INITIALS MAKING MOST OF THE COMMENTS.
UH, OR IS IT JUST THE LEGAL COUNSEL ACTING INDEPENDENTLY? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, JOE.
SO THIS COULD BE A LOT MORE TIME.
WE HAVE THE AUDIT ISSUE, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY FOCUS ON.
WE'VE GOT SIMULTANEOUS BALLS IN THE AIR, THE MOU, BUT WE HAVE AN MOU WE'LL JUST CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT MOU FOCUS ON THE AUDIT ISSUES HERE, GET THAT IN PLAY, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT END UP BEING A PART OF THE MOU ANYWAY, IN TERMS OF HOW THAT'S CONTINUED ON.
AND THEN WE AS A, AS A COMMITTEE AND INCLUDING OUR PROJECTS, AND WE WILL HAVE SOME OTHER BIG PROJECTS COMING UP TOO, FOCUS ON THOSE AND, AND DO OUR JOBS CORRECTLY.
BUT ANYWAY, THERE'S A, I THINK YOU HAD A COMMENT JUST A, WELL, A QUESTION OR A POINT OF INFORMATION ARE, ARE, ARE WE, IF WE ELECT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICHEVER PATHWAY WE DECIDE TO DO, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
IS THAT, SO AS I SEE THE, THE COMMITTEE HAD PASSED A RESOLUTION IN AUGUST THAT SAID, WHEN WE GET THE RESPONSES, THE CHAIR WAS TO, UM, SEEK A METHODOLOGY TO, TO WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHAT COULD BE PROPOSED TO BOTH THE DECISION MAKING BODIES.
WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW, BUT YOU TAKING THE TEMPERATURE, THAT MAY NOT BE WHAT THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE IS FEELING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE CAN MEET TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, DECIDE WHAT PATH IT WANTS TO CHOOSE FORWARD AS A PUBLIC MEETING SUCH AS TODAY.
SO HOWEVER THAT DIRECTION IS CHOSEN, IT CAN BE DONE BY A MOTION.
BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS IS THAT RESOLUTION FROM AUGUST.
I MEAN, IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD, AND, AND JUST TO, TO PIGGYBACK ON, ON THE POINT, UH, THAT CHAIR HAMNER MADE, WE, WE ARE, I BELIEVE, DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SAME PEOPLE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
I MEAN THE, THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE, UH, ACTING SUPERINTENDENT NOW, BUT THE FOLKS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THEM, THE PRINCIPAL EXECUTIVES THAT ARE SUPPORTING THEM ARE THE SAME.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO, UH, PURSUING AVENUES FOR DIRECT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BOARD OF ED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THESE ISSUES.
I I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THEY, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN READ INTO THESE CHANGES AND HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS, UH, THEIR POSITION ON THEM.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AND RESPECTFUL OF THEIR POSITION, UH, FOR AN EMISSARY FROM THE BOC TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT OUTREACH AND, AND PERHAPS THAT HAPPENS IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, BUT, UH, IN, IN LIGHT OF THAT AND, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME FOLKS HERE WHO ULTIMATELY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING THESE DOCUMENTS AND, AND, AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO US, UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I I I WOULD MOVE MR. CHAIR THAT WE, UM, REJECT THE PROPOSED CHANGES FROM THE DISTRICT AND DISCONTINUE, UH, THE REVIEW PROCESS UNTIL THE NEXT CYCLE.
AND IF THAT FAILS OR IT DOESN'T, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
SO THEN I'LL TAKE THAT AS A MOTION, AS YOU JUST STATED BY CAMPBELL, TO DECLINE ANY FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS AT THIS TIME WITH THE DISTRICT ON THE REVISIONS OF THE MOU.
AND, UH, WE WILL AWAIT THE NEXT BOC REVIEW SCHEDULE FOR 2027.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
MR. SULLIVAN DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? GOOD POINT.
MR. PENSKY, BEFORE WE JUST SAY NO, WE HAVE HAD NO DIALOGUE WITH THEM SINCE THEY PRESENTED THIS.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE'VE HAD CONTINUING DIALOGUE VIA,
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AGAIN, THE CONDUITS, BUT SINCE THEY DELIVERED THIS VERSION, HAS THERE BEEN DIALOGUE ABOUT THE RECEPTION, HOW WE'VE PERCEIVED THIS? NO.UM, AND TO CLARIFY THIS MORNING ON MY DRIVE IN, I DID RECEIVE A TEXT MESSAGE FROM MR. TORRENS WHO, UH, RESPECTFULLY, AND HE'S ALWAYS LET, LET'S PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
MR. TORRENS, TO ME, HAS BEEN EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL, RESPECTFUL, UM, EVEN PERSONAL.
UH, HE DID WRITE ME, UH, AND SAID HE HAD A SCHEDULE CONFLICT AND, UH, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S MEETING TO, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS OR HEAR.
AS YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO, UH, THERE'S BEEN AN EARNEST EFFORT ON HIS PART, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS NO.
SO THEY DON'T KNOW OUR RESPONSE AND EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY JUST SAID TODAY, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL HEAR THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND CAN RESPOND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND JUST SAYING NO.
AND ONE OTHER THING THAT, UH, MR. SULLIVAN HAD BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE LA TIMES.
THE LA TIMES USED TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS.
THEY SAT UP HERE AND TOOK NOTES.
THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN'T INVITE THEM TO ATTEND AND WATCH THAT DISCUSSION AND SEE WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING WORTHY OF PRESS OR NOT.
AND THEY HA, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S HISTORY THERE.
I THROW ONE, ONE THING OUT, I THINK ON THE TEMPERATURE AND, AND MAYBE THE REASON WHY WE'RE INITIALLY, IT COULD BE EMOTIONAL, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
ALL OF US, WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS.
WE HAVE EVERY MONTH AT OUR MEETINGS REFERENCED THE MOU, WE HAVE MET PERSONALLY TAKEN PERSONAL TIME TO COME BACK OUT TO THE DISTRICT OFFICE TO MEET AT ZOOM MEETINGS.
WHEN YOU RECEIVE A DOCUMENT AS PRESENTED, YOUR, YOUR RESPONSE IS, WHERE'S THE GOOD FAITH? MM-HMM
YOU STRIPPED EVERYTHING WHEN, AT A TIME WHEN, AS JOE PRESENTED VERY WELL, WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING ADDING TO IT BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE NATURE OF THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, THESE PROJECTS, THE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP, TECHNOLOGY BEING WHAT IT IS.
SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND BY THE WAY, IT WAS RECEIVED WITHOUT ANY COVER LETTER, WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION, WITHOUT ANY DEAR SIR, MA'AM, WITH ANY EXPLANATION OF WHO THESE REVIEWERS ARE.
AND, AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PARAGRAPH, WHICH IMMEDIATELY SETS THE TONE, STRIPS AWAY THE ADMISSION STATEMENT.
I ONLY STATE WHAT I'M STATING BECAUSE I FEEL I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF PATIENCE AND I'M NOBODY, I'M JUST ONE.
YOU GUYS DECIDED THAT I'M JUST THE SPOKESPERSON AT THE MOMENT.
I KEEP, I WILL, I'LL STOP TALKING AT A MOMENT.
YOU TELL ME TO, AND I'LL LISTEN TO YOU AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF THE, OF THE BOARD.
I, I FEEL I'VE SAT THERE AND ASKED, WE'VE PUT A TASK FORCE TOGETHER AND WE'VE PATIENTLY WAITED AND WE'VE GOT OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE OF, OF A CONCERN.
SO I THINK YOU'RE DEAD SPOT ON, EXCEPT IN MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, AND I KNOW I'M, I'M ADVOCATING FOR THIS MAYBE TOO MUCH MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE.
HAVE WE HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH THEM SINCE THEY GAVE US THIS? NO, WE HAVE NOT.
BUT I THINK THE MANNER OF WHICH IT WAS RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, VIA AN EMAIL RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, WITHOUT ANY OTHER EXPLANATION, AND WE'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHO THEIR TASK FORCE IS.
IT WAS, WE HAD A TASK FORCE AND NOW WE HAVE TO PUT ANOTHER ONE TOGETHER.
MR. SULLIVAN, I, I WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING.
UH, CHAIR HAMNER SAID, AS WELL AS I BELIEVE IT WAS MS. PERONE HAD BROUGHT IT UP, BUT I, AND I SAID IT EARLIER, I'M ALL FOR FINDING COMMON GROUND.
IF, IF THERE'S COMMON GROUND TO BE FOUND.
IT, IT, THESE DOCUMENTS ARE SO FAR APART, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHERE THAT WOULD E DISCUSSION WOULD EVEN BEGIN.
AND, AND REALLY GIVEN ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO OUR REVISIONS TO RECEIVE THIS, THIS IS INSULTING.
THIS IS NOT WORTHY OF CONTINUING DISCUSSION.
AND I THINK THE HOPE WOULD BE IS THAT BY RETURNING TO THEM SAYING EXACTLY THAT, THAT MAYBE THAT'LL LIGHT A FIRE UNDER THEM AND, AND GAIN SOME RESPONSE THAT
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MIGHT BE MORE FAVORABLE THAN THE ONE WE'VE RECEIVED A MONTH AGO.I KNOW MR. PANSKY WAS ASKING HAVE WE HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BUT SINCE RECEIVING THIS, HAVE THEY REACHED OUT TO SAY ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE TEXT MESSAGE YOU RECEIVED? DID YOU GET IT? QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MEET? COULD I, I TALK YEAH.
HAS THERE BEEN A RES A REQUEST TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT IT? YES.
AS OF TODAY, UM, THIS MORNING, CAN WE SPEAK EITHER TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK? MM-HMM.
WELL, I, I, I WANT TO ADD ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE GO THROW OUT THE OPTION OF, WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS, BUT FOR US TO HAVE THIS ON THE TABLE AS A, AN ACTION ITEM THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH, WE, WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THEM.
WE SHOULD HAVE A TASK FORCE AND WE CONTINUE TO MEET SO THAT WHEN 2027 COMES ALONG, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
SO WE KNOW WHERE THAT COMMON GROUND IS.
BUT MR. CAMPBELL, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN, IN THE STATE OF TRANSITION WE'RE IN, I, I, I DON'T HAVE INSIGHTS INTO THE, THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE DISTRICT.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT MY RECOLLECTION FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IS THE LA TIMES SAID THAT MR. TORRENS MAY NOT BE RETURNING, UH, AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AS WELL, JUNE 30TH.
AND SO THAT WOULD ADD, IF THAT'S TRUE, AGAIN, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT I, I DON'T, DON'T HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO PERSONNEL MATTERS OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, AND, AND THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT SITUATION, I, I, I THINK, I THINK TAKEN TOGETHER WITH THE CONTENT OF THIS, THE WAY THAT IT WAS TRANSMITTED AND ALL THE OTHER MATTERS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, IT, IT, IT, IT MAKES IT, I THINK, THE MOST PRUDENT COURSE TO REJECT THESE CHANGES, COMMIT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT CYCLE.
AND, AND AS CHAIR HAMNER SAID, I, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE FULLY SUPPORTIVE, TWO OF US, OF US TAKING AN INDEPENDENT ACTION, NUMBER ONE TO SET UP ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL COMMITTEE IF WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE THAT READY TO GO AS WELL AS IF, IF SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS, UH, SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, WITH THE BOE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I, I, I THINK THAT THEY DESERVE, UM, THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE DOUBT.
I HAVE NO INFORMATION THAT, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY INFORMED OF OR, OR ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED AND, AND, AND WOULDN'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT, UM, I, I'D, I'D WANT TO KNOW, AND IF I WAS IN THEIR SHOES, I, I WOULD WANT THESE ISSUES BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SO I, I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE DO REJECT THIS, THEN WE SHOULD, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET ON TO THEIR COMMITTEE MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, THEIR BOARD MEETING, BUT WE SHOULD BE THERE TO DISCUSS IT.
AND AS MANY OF US THAT CAN RALLY TO BE THERE AT THE SAME TIME, TO SUPPORT OUR SPOKESPERSON, THAT, THAT, THAT DEFINITELY WAS SOMETHING AS AN OPTION, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN OUR SMALL GROUP TO TALK ABOUT, TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT INPUT FROM YOU.
I THINK IT'S NOT A DEAD ISSUE, IT'S JUST THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED BEING AN ACTION ITEM SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO CONDUCT OUR WORK.
MS. LEWIS? YEAH, I JUST THINK IN THE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PRUDENT USE OF OUR TIME, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WAITING FOR A NEW ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK IF WE ENGAGE WITH THESE COMMENTS AT ALL, IT IS EVEN REMOTELY LEGITIMIZING THEM AS REALISTIC AND LEGITIMATE COMMENTS.
AND THEY'RE NOT LEGITIMATE COMMENTS, THEY'RE HOSTILE COMMENTS AND I DO NOT THINK IT'S WORTH ANYONE'S TIME TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, PER, BASICALLY OPTION TWO.
AND THAT'S AGAIN, GO AHEAD MR. BUCKMAN.
JUST A POINT OF, UH, INFORMATION.
THIS WILL BE A VOTE ON A MOTION THAT DOES NOT CONCERN THE EXPENDITURE OF BOND FUNDS.
SO IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT MAJORITY.
UH, WE'LL CARRY THE MOTION OR NOT, DOESN'T NEED A EXTRA AMOUNT.
SO AGAIN, ITEM TWO, UM, OR SORRY, ALTERNATIVE ACTION TO, UH, DECLINING FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS AT THIS TIME WITH THE DISTRICT TO REVISE THE MOU AND AWAIT THE NEXT BOC REVIEW SCHEDULE FOR 2027.
MOTION CARRIES WITH 15 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
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FOR YOUR BRIEF, UH, PRESENTATION.[5. FY25 - Bond Performance & Financial Audit Reports ]
FIVE, WE HAVE THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BOND PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL AUDITS.UM, WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOME MATERIAL HERE.
WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA BE PRESENTED TO US UNLESS THE ONE THAT'S NOTED AS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.
THAT'S THE IG, RIGHT? I GOT IT.
WELL, I, BACK TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE HERE, MEMBERS.
THERE'S A DRAFT DOCUMENT ENTITLED, UH, RESOLUTION REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UH, PARTICIPATION IN BOND AUDIT PLANNING AND AUDITOR COMMUNICATION.
WHAT WAS EMAILED TO YOU YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
IF YOU RECEIVED IT, YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY PRINTED IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE THERE MAY BE A CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION.
I WOULD INVITE, UH, VICE CHAIR CAMPBELL TO OFFER HIS THOUGHTS REGARDING THE BOND AUDITS.
YOU MAY RECALL IN OUR LAST MEETING, MR. JOE MOA FROM SIMPSON, SIMPSON MADE A PRESENTATION ON THIS TOPIC.
AND ROBERT, UH, I'M GONNA KEEP THIS EXTREMELY BRIEF, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT, UH, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE, UH, ALL VOLUNTEERS AND, AND WE HAVE, UH, LIMITED EXPOSURE AND LIMITED CONTINUITY RELATIVE TO FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT TO, UM, THE UNIVERSAL PROJECTS AND THE HISTORY BEHIND THEM.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY TOOLS THAT WE RELY ON, AT LEAST THAT I RELY ON ARE, ARE THESE AUDITS.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE AUDITS ARE CONTRACTED FOR BY THE DISTRICT.
THEY MANAGE THOSE ENGAGEMENTS.
THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT OR LACK OF CLARITY ON THAT POINT.
UM, BUT PROFESSIONAL AUDITING STANDARDS AND, UH, THE RELEVANT, UH, SECTIONS OF THE ED CODE, UM, PRESCRIBER ROLE FOR US IN THAT WE ARE ADDRESSES OF THESE AUDITS AND PRIMARY USERS OF THEM, UM, OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
MY REQUEST HAS SIMPLY BEEN TO HAVE SOME FORMAL COMMUNICATION WITH THE AUDITORS BEFORE THEY BEGIN THEIR AUDIT SO THAT WE COULD SHARE INSIGHTS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE BOC ABOUT AREAS OF POTENTIAL RISK AND AREAS OF POTENTIAL CONCERN AND AREAS OF POTENTIAL INTEREST TO HELP THESE AUDIT PRODUCTS BE MORE USEFUL TO OUR BOARD.
UM, AND I I, I NEVER PERCEIVED THAT AS, AS A DIFFICULT OR CONTROVERSIAL REQUEST.
UM, BUT AS WE SAW IN THE LAST MEETING, UH, APPARENTLY IT IS, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, AT LEAST ONE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE TOLD ME IN WRITING THAT THERE WAS NO ENTRANCE CONFERENCE AFTER I WAS TOLD THAT WE WOULD BE INVITED TO ONE.
AND THEN THE AUDIT PARTNER FOR THE FIRM LATER STATED THAT THEY DID HAVE AN ENTRANCE CONFERENCE IN JANUARY.
AND I WAS TOLD IN FEBRUARY IN WRITING THAT THERE WAS, THERE WASN'T ONE.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT, UM, THIS ESSENTIALLY, UH, STATES OUR, OUR POSITION, OR AT LEAST AS I SEE IT, UH, WHAT I RECOMMEND OUR POSITION SHOULD BE AND, AND REITERATES OUR REQUEST NOT FOR ANY MANAGEMENT CONTROL OR, UH, ABILITY TO PROVIDE DIRECTION, UH, TO THE AUDITORS OR, OR, OR TO HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP OF THE ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS NOT OURS TO OWN, BUT SIMPLY TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE AUDITORS BEFORE THEY BEGIN THEIR WORK.
I, I, UM, AND SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S THE SUBSTANCE OF THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR. PANSKY? JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS.
THI THIS FALLS WITHIN THE CURRENT MOU CORRECT? AS FAR AS THE REQUESTS AND, AND JUST TRANSPARENCY? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
AND, AND, AND PARTICULARLY GOING TO THE DISTRICT PROVIDING THE NECESSARY TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO, TO THE BOC AND, AND IN THIS CASE, THAT TECHNICAL SUPPORT WOULD BE THE ABILITY, AGAIN, JUST TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF INTERFACE OR CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE AUDITORS IN AS THEY PLAN THEIR WORK.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE THINGS, THAT TRANSPARENCY IS THE KEY TO EVERYTHING HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ASK OUR QUESTIONS AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, WANT
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TO BE INVOLVED SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND SO THAT WE OR THE BOARD CAN CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHAT'S HAPPENING.AND THESE AUDITS ARE CRUCIAL IN SUPPORTING THAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE FUNDS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS WITHOUT ANY, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION BY BELL? SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
MR. PANSKY, CAN YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE? THANK YOU, MR. I'M SORRY.
HEY MR. PANSKY, I'LL HAPPY AND YOU WILL.
ON BEHALF OF SCOTT EARL, YOU'RE NEXT MEMBERS.
THIS IS A VOTE ON, UH, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE RESOLUTION READING REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PARTICIPATION AND BOND AUDIT PLANNING AND AUDITOR COMMUNICATION.
MR. HAMNER AYE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 15 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
[6. FY27 Office of the Inspector General (OIG) Work Plan/Strategic Execution Plan ]
NUMBER SIX, THIS IS OUR FISCAL YEAR 27 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, UH, GENERAL WORK, SORRY, INSPECTOR GENERAL WORK PLAN.I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MR. MICHAEL MCLEAN IN INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GET SET UP WITH THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL FIRST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING TIME TO HAVE ME HERE.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL MCLEAN, I'M THE INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL, WHICH, UH, SOMETIMES I FEEL SORRY THAT YOU WERE SADDLED WITH THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO BE GONE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION THAT YOU RECEIVE EVERY, EVERY YEAR ABOUT THE, UH, I'S WORK PLAN AND THE RISK ASSESSMENT.
UM, IT'S WORK THAT WENT, UH, WAS ONGOING AND UNINTERRUPTED DURING MY TIME AS INTERIM SINCE, UH, DECEMBER.
BEFORE I START, I WANT TO DO SOME THANK YOUS.
I WANNA SAY I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT EACH OF YOU DO.
I HAVE BEEN A VOLUNTEER IN MANY CAPACITIES IN MY, WHAT FEELS LIKE GETTING LONGER AND LONGER LIFE.
AND VOLUNTEER WORK IS OFTEN GOES UNRE UNRECOGNIZED FOR A BUNCH OF REASONS.
AND BECAUSE OF HOW PROFESSIONAL YOU ALL LOOK, I THINK PEOPLE PROBABLY ASSUME THAT LIKE YOU ARE EITHER ELECTED OR PAID.
AND AS TO THE WORK OF BONDS AND FACILITIES, I WAS AN L-A-U-S-D STUDENT PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUNDS LONG AGO BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE EXISTED.
BUT THAT WORK OVER, UM, OVERLAPS WITH MY LIVED EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS SELFISH THOUGH IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND, UM, AS A LITIGATOR WITH OGC, PRIOR TO MY CURRENT ROLE, I OFTEN LITIGATED CASES THAT INVOLVED THE, OR DEFEND THE DISTRICT THAT INVOLVED, UH, THE CHOICES THE DISTRICT MADE ABOUT PUTTING CERTAIN PLAYGROUND MATERIALS IN THERE.
SO I'M, UH, DEEPLY FAMILIAR, UH, WITH PLAYGROUNDS, UH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH.
SO I'M GONNA LEAD INTO THE PRESENTATION WITH THAT ODD BIT OF DETAIL.
SO HERE ARE THE OIG BOND FUNDED ACTIVITIES.
UM, I HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE HERE WITH ME ALSO, I WANT TO SAY THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN THIS.
I AM THE ONE COMMUNICATING THE INFORMATION TO YOU AS THE EXECUTIVE.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, I WILL BE GIVING IT TO THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY CREATED AND KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME.
THE AUDIT ACTIVITIES THAT THE OIG UNDERTAKES OR PERFORMANCE AUDITS AND CONTRACTS AUDITS, ALL OF THIS WILL BE TOUCHED IN ON A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
SPECIAL SERVICES, TECHNICAL EVALS OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, SPECIAL REVIEWS AND DUE DILIGENCE REVIEWS AND ALSO INVESTIGATIONS.
I'D SAY THESE ARE LISTED, UM, PROBABLY IN THE ORDER OF USAGE OF THE BOND FUNDS INVESTIGATIONS, HAVING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF BOND FUNDING.
UM, THE ANNUAL RISK ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
IT, UM, YOU WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE BOARD EARLIER.
THE RISK ASSESSMENT PROCESS INVOLVES EACH BOARD MEMBER AND EACH BOARD OFFICE.
IT'S SENT TO THEM FOR THEIR COMMENTS REVIEW AND THINGS THAT THEY THINK ARE IMPORTANT THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL MOVING FORWARD.
THERE'S A SURVEY, OIG STAFF EXPERTISE.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOLKS WHO, WHO ARE DOING THE WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, WHO I CAN, WHO CAN IDENTIFY TRENDS AND LOOK TO THE PAST, LOOK TO THE PRESENT AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE DEVELOPING MAYBE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S TRENDS PRIOR OIG WORK.
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WE IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE WORK PLAN.UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IDENTIFYING TRENDS IN THE DISTRICT SYSTEM, PROCESSES AND CONTRACTS, AS WELL AS WAYS TO FRAUD AND ABUSE.
AND THE GOAL IS TO DELIVER HIGH END PRODUCTS.
THERE IS A PIECE HERE THAT ISN'T IN THERE THAT, UM, DOESN'T SUPER OVERLAP, BUT ALSO WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY PROUD THAT THE OIG OFFICE DOES, AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE BOND RELATED ACTIVITIES, BUT IT CAN OVERLAP AT TIMES FOR THOSE WHO DECIDE TO BLOW THE WHISTLE ON SOMETHING THEY SEE GOING WRONG.
AND THE OIG IS MEANT TO HAVE A WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTIONS IN PLACE.
UH, THE NOW WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
PERFORMANCE AUDITS ARE RELATED TO FACILITIES, CAPITAL, CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESSES, THIRD PARTY RISK MANAGEMENT, EARLY PAYMENT DISCOUNTS, GOVERNANCE, PREPAYMENTS, UM, AND CONTRACT AUDITS RELATED TO CAMPUS MODERNIZATION AND IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
I REALLY DO NOT LIKE READING OFF OF A POWERPOINT 'CAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOUR TIME IS PRETTY VALUABLE.
BUT THIS IS THE STUFF THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU SHOULD HAVE ALSO RECEIVED THE POWER POWERPOINT WELL IN ADVANCE OF THIS.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, GET READY FOR THEM.
UH, THE TECHNICAL EVALUATIONS ARE RELATED TO COMPREHENSIVE MODERNIZATION PROJECTS, ROOFING AND HVAC WORK, OUTDOOR CLASSROOM, CAMPUS UPGRADES, UM, AND DUE DILIGENCE REVIEWS.
AND THE SPECIAL REVIEWS ARE RE RESULTS AND INSIGHTS FROM OIGS DATA ANALYTICS, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEW, UH, UNIT WITHIN THE IIG G'S OFFICE.
THAT, UM, INVOLVES BOTH INVESTIGATIONS AND AUDITS.
SO WE TAKE ALL THE DATA THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY FIND AND USE THAT AS A DATA ANALYTICS DEPARTMENT THAT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE, TO AGAIN, IDENTIFY TRENDS THAT SOME SOMETIMES ARE BELOW THE SURFACE THAT YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY JUST BY READING REPORTS.
UM, THE DUE DILIGENCE REVIEWS RELATED TO CONTRACTED VENDORS AND SENIOR MANAGEMENT APPLICANTS.
INTERNAL STAFF BUDGET IS ABOUT 4 MILLION EXTERNAL STAFF, WHICH IS A BENCH THAT THE, UH, OYG MAINTAINS IN ORDER TO, UM, USE OUTSIDE EXPERTISE ON PARTICULAR TOPICS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE INTERNAL KNOWLEDGE ON.
IT'S 500,000 AND TRAINING IS, UH, $10,000.
I THINK TRAINING ISN'T, UH, TALKED ABOUT, UM, AS OFTEN AS IT SHOULD BE, BUT TRAINING IS EXCEEDINGLY IMPORTANT IN A WORLD THAT MOVES AS FAST AS THIS ONE OIG RESOURCES.
YOU CAN SEE OUR FTES, UM, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD EXTERNAL STAFF ON THAT BENCH.
UM, 18 BENCH FIRMS, LIKE I SAID, TO PROVIDE CONSULTING AND ADVISORY SERVICES.
THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
I, YOU GUYS ARE, HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE TODAY.
UM, THERE IS ALSO A, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? SHOULD WE START WITH QUESTIONS? YEAH, IF, IF YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND YEAH, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE AS A FOUNDATION.
I'M LAYING NO FOUNDATION, SIR.
I HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.
WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, I'M SURE.
SO, UH, I, I KNOW I'LL START WITH MR. CAMPBELL.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY DO, UM, AND, AND THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT THEY BRING.
UM, ONE QUESTION ON, ON THE LIST OF AUDITS.
I, I NOTICED UNDER CONTRACT AUDITS HERE, UH, PROJECT NUMBER NINE, LISTS TWO, UH, CONTRACTOR OR PRO PROJECT NAMES.
SDV CONSTRUCTION SLASH SIMPSON AND SIMPSON.
IS THAT SIMPSON AND SIMPSON THE SAME? SIMPSON AND SIMPSON, THAT IS THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR.
NO, BUT I'LL HAVE JOSH COME UP THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A BIG NO AND SOMETHING I LEARNED ABOUT MY SECOND MONTH ON THE JOB.
I WAS LIKE, UH, THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR TO ME.
UH, NO, WE SAW THAT WHEN WE, YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, JIM.
I'M THE ASSISTANT INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR AUDITS.
UM, NO, IT'S NOT THE SIMPSON SYSTEM.
WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT LIST, TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHICH CONTRACTS WE LOOK AT, THIS POPPED UP ON OUR RADAR TOO.
BUT THEN WE SPOKE WITH AMY, SHE'S OUR ASSISTANT INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR SPECIAL SERVICES.
SHE'S LIKE, NO, THIS IS A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FIRM.
SO I'VE CHECKED AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT FOR I THINK ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW OR SO.
SO, AND IT'S NOT THE, IT IS NOT LIKE AN ADVISORY BRANCH OF THE SIMPSON, SIMPSON CGA A FIRM? NO, NO, IT'S NOT IN NOW.
NO, THEY'RE JUST THE NAME SIMPSON AND SIMPSON.
SO I THINK THEY'RE LLC AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AUDIT'S FULL NAME IS, BUT YEAH.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER MEMBERS? ASSUME NONE.
I DO HAVE, I DO HAVE ONE THING I ACTUALLY WANTED TO BRING UP, WHICH WAS THERE'S A RESOLUTION PRESENTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH, WITH THIS AND I SPOKE WITH, UH, COUNSEL JUST BEFORE I WANTED TO THIS RESOLUTION.
THE WORDING IN PART COMES FROM MY OFFICE AND THEN YOU CREATE THE RESOLUTION.
SO THERE'S SOME PROPRIETY I'M ASKING, UH, ON YOUR BEHALF HERE 'CAUSE I CANNOT AMEND A RESOLUTION SITTING HERE ALL THE WAY DOWN, DOWN HERE AT THIS MIC.
UH, THE THIRD RESOLVE ORIGINALLY SAYS THE DISTRICT IS DIRECTED TO TRACK THE ABOVE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, MY PROPOSED AMENDMENT, HOPEFULLY VIA THROUGH YOU IS THE DISTRICT, UH, TRACK THE ABOVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HEARD SEVERAL TIMES OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT IT'S ADVISORY IN NATURE AND TO PUT THE DIRECTED TO IS ACTUALLY COUNTER TO WHAT MY OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IN TERMS OF PRESENTING YOU INFORMATION.
AND, AND COUNSEL PROBABLY WANTS TO HAVE A WORD
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YES, IF I MAY.UM, SO I DID SPEAK WITH MR. MCLEAN AND THE LANGUAGE IS TYPICAL OF ALL OUR RESOLUTIONS.
IT, I I, MY MEMORY DOESN'T EXACTLY REMEMBER WHEN IT, IT WAS ADOPTED IN THIS WAY.
UM, BUT I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS, UH, REVISION.
UM, I'LL JUST QUOTE TO THE COMMITTEE WHAT SECTION 6.2 OF THE MOU SAYS, WHICH IS CITED IN THAT RESOLVE.
THE, UH, THE PERTINENT LANGUAGE SAYS THE DISTRICT AGREES TO TRACK ALL RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE COMMITTEE AND TO REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE WHETHER THE RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE DISTRICT OR REJECTED BY THE DISTRICT OR THE STATUS OF THE DISTRICT'S CONSIDERATION OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE UH, USE OF THE VERB DIRECT IS SUPERFLUOUS IN MY OPINION.
AND THAT THE RESOLVE JUST SIMPLY SAY THAT THE DISTRICT, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE DISTRICT TRACK IN ACCORDANCE WITH ITS AGREEMENT UNDER THE MOU.
SO THEN I, I'LL I'LL GO AHEAD AND THROW OUT ON THE TABLE THEN THERE IS A MOTION WITH THE, UM, REVISION CLARIFICATION DESCRIBED.
IS THERE A MOTION? SO, SO WE'RE MOVING THE, WE'RE MOVING THE WORK PLAN AS AMENDED.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
MS. PERONE? MR. POP? JOY, CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? SECOND BY PERONE WHO MADE, WHO MADE THE INITIAL MOTION PLEASE? CAMPBELL.
THIS IS THE VOTE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS AMENDED.
REGARDING THE OIG WORK PLAN? YES.
MS. L MUELLER? SHE MIGHT BE, SHE MAY HAVE, UH, LOOKS LIKE SHE DROPPED OFF.
AYE MR. HAMNER? AYE UH, THE MOTION IS AMENDED, UH, PASSES WITH 14 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES AND ONE MEMBER ABSENT.
ALRIGHT, THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE THANK YOU.
YOU NEVER APPEAR IN THIS CAPACITY
JUST TO REMIND YOU, UM, MS. LURCHER MUER HAD MENTIONED THAT SHE, UM, HAD AN APPOINTMENT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSER TO 1230, BUT SHE MAY HAVE LEFT TO, SHE'S STILL ON.
[7. Chief Facilities Executive’s Report (Information Only) Part 1 of 2)]
SEVEN CFE PRESENTATION.REMEMBER WE SAID WE WERE GONNA HAVE YOU EARLY IN THE AGENDA.
CAN I SAY GOOD MORNING? GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
CHRISTINA TOKS, CHIEF FACILITIES EXECUTIVE EXCITED TO START TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT PROJECTS.
UM, AND I AM ACTUALLY GONNA DO MY PRESENTATION IN TWO PARTS.
YOU'RE GONNA BE HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY OUR LATEST ROUND OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING, UM, SEISMIC PROJECTS.
YOU'VE HEARD OF COMP MODS, MAJOR MODS.
NOW WE'RE DOING SEISMIC MODERNIZATIONS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WANNA PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE CAME TO THESE PROJECTS.
THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ASSAM, WHO'S GONNA GET INTO THE ACTUAL PROJECTS.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND DO THE SHADE SHELTER PORTION BEFORE MARK CHO BRINGS SHADE SHELTER PROJECTS.
SO NOT TO GET TOO WONKY, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN A RABBITS HOLE OF SEISMIC SAFETY.
UM, AND I KNOW MIKE HAMNER KNOWS THIS LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND, BUT FOR THE REST OF US, UM, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT KIND OF VERY BIG PICTURE.
I THINK THE REALLY MAIN POINT I WANNA MAKE IS THAT SEISMIC SAFETY IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE.
AND EVERY EARTHQUAKE EVENT, UM, WE THE COLLECTIVE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURAL COMMUNITY LEARN SOMETHING NEW AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING AND TRYING TO ENSURE THAT OUR BUILDINGS AS ARE SAFE AS THEY CAN BE.
BUT THERE'S NO RIGHT BLACK OR WHITE, SAFE OR UNSAFE.
IT'S ALWAYS DEGREES OF SAFETY.
AND WE'RE OUTLINING NOW OUR APPROACH OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO INVEST THE NEXT SET OF FUNDS IN SEISMIC UPGRADES.
SO WITH THAT, JUST ALWAYS WANTED TO REMIND YOU WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM.
IN OUR S FUNDING CATEGORIES, THE
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LARGEST IS WHAT'S CALLED FOR MAJOR MODERNIZATION.THERE'S SEVEN DISTINCT KIND OF FUNDING CATEGORIES OR BUCKETS IN THOSE.
TODAY I AM TALKING ABOUT THE 2.8 BILLION TO REPLACE MODERNIZED BUILDINGS FOR SEISMIC SAFETY.
AND THEN I'M GONNA COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE 50 MILLION FOR SHADE SHELTERS.
SO WITH THAT, JUST VERY QUICKLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT A KIND OF TIMELINE OF HOW CALIFORNIA HAS LEARNED AND ADDRESSED SEISMIC SAFETY.
SO THE BIG EVENT THAT KIND OF STARTED, UM, THE, UH, STUDY OF SEISMIC SAFETY WAS THE 1933 LONG BEACH EARTHQUAKE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THERE'S BEEN A SERIES OF MILESTONES, I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL THAT JUST KIND OF REFORM AND UPDATE HOW WE APPROACH SEISMIC SAFETY IN CALIFORNIA.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR ABOUT THE DEVASTATION THAT THE LONG BEACH EARTHQUAKE CAUSED IN 1933, IT WAS DEVASTATING TO L-A-U-S-D AT THE TIME WE HAD 70 PUBLIC SCHOOLS DESTROYED 120 SCHOOLS DAMAGED.
YOU CAN SEE THESE FASCINATING PICTURES OF HUNTINGTON PARK, ROOSEVELT FRANKLIN, HAMILTON POLYTECHNIC.
AND THE CAUSE WAS A FAILURE OF POOR CONSTRUCTION AND A LACK OF SEISMIC DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO OUT OF THAT CAME THE FIELD ACT.
AND THE FIELD ACT IS WHAT GUIDES US TODAY.
IT REQUIRES ALL NEW PUBLIC SCHOOLS BE DESIGNED FOR SEISMIC LOADS BY LICENSED PROFESSIONALS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE ARCHITECT WITH STRINGENT CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION.
UM, AND SO YOU'LL HEAR US TALK ABOUT THAT WE GO TO DSA, WE DON'T GO TO THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, UM, AND THAT WE DESIGN FOR, UH, KIND OF A HIGHER, UM, STRUCTURAL SAFETY THAN LET'S SAY OTHER TYPES OF BUILDINGS.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE AFTER THAT 1939 THEY ESTABLISHED HOW TO DETERMINE WHICH BUILDINGS TO RETROFIT OR ABANDONED.
1978 YOU GET THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING STANDARDS CODE ONE CODE 1979, THE UNIFORM BUILDING CODE FIRST MODERN SEISMIC DESIGN CODE IS ESTABLISHED.
WE GET THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE 'CAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SEISMIC, UM, ZONES AND AREAS THAN OTHER STATES IN THE DISTRICT, I MEAN IN THE COUNTRY.
AND CODES ARE UPDATED EVERY THREE YEARS.
SO YOU COULD BUILD SOMETHING 10 YEARS AGO AND IT IS NOT UP TO CURRENT CODE.
UM, IT WAS UP TO CODE AT THAT TIME.
DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT SAFE, BUT CODES ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING.
SO LET'S BRING YOU UP TO KIND OF THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UM, IN 1999, THE ASSEMBLY BILL PASSED AB 300.
IT MANDATED A STATEWIDE SURVEY OF K THROUGH 12 PUBLIC SCHOOL BUILDINGS FOR SEISMIC SAFETY.
LISTED THE CRITERIA AND WE WORKED WITH THE STATE TO IDENTIFY 667 BUILDINGS NEEDING FURTHER EVALUATION.
THE ONE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED TO BE THE MOST PROBLEMATIC OR HAVING THE GREATEST SEISMIC WRIST WAS SOMETHING CALLED TILT UP CONCRETE BUILDINGS.
YOU SEE THEM MORE IN LIKE WAREHOUSES.
THEIR UM, UM, ESSENTIALLY POURED IN PLACE ON THE GROUND AND THEN TILTED UP.
UM, WE DEMOLISHED AND OR RETROFITTED ALL OF OUR TILT UP AND UNREINFORCED MASON REBUILDINGS.
UM, AND THEN IN JUNE OF 22, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE ARCHITECT ALSO ISSUED A GUIDANCE AND CONCERN REGARDING SOMETHING CALLED LIFTS LAB CONSTRUCTION, NOTING THE RISK OF PROGRESSIVE COLLAPSE DURING SEISMIC EVENTS.
UM, WE THEN WENT OUT AND COMMISSIONED AND PEER REVIEWED BUILDING SEISMIC EVALUATIONS FOR EVERY LIFTS LAB BUILDING THAT THE DISTRICT HAD.
AND LEMME TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT LIFT SLAB CONSTRUCTION IS.
YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE YOUR SLABS, THEY'RE PUT ONTO COLUMNS AND THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, UM, LIFTED AND THEN YOU DO THE NEXT SLAB, YOU LIFT IT TO THE NEXT SLAB.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE, UM, LAYERS OF A CAKE.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF LIFTS LABS, IT WAS VERY POPULAR IN THE 1950S THROUGH ABOUT THE 1970S.
AND WHEN I SHOW YOU WHERE THE MAP OF WHERE THE LIFTS LABS IS NO COINCIDENCE, IT'S WHERE WE BUILT THE MOST SCHOOLS IN THE 1950S, SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES.
AND WE ARE BEING EXTREMELY PROACTIVE.
WE'RE AT THE FOREFRONT OF ADDRESSING LIFTS LAB BUILDINGS, OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE WE ARE THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA.
SO OUR APPROACH TO PRIORITIZING SEISMIC SAFETY, WE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED WITH A STANDARD MO METHODOLOGY.
WE WANNA BE BASED IN INDUSTRY PROCEDURES.
THE CRITERIA THAT WE USED FROM 2014 TO 2024, WE LOOKED AT THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE, PROXIMITY FAULTS AND OCCUPANCY LEVEL.
THIS IS BASED ON A FEMA HAZARDOUS PROCEDURE METHODOLOGY.
AGAIN, WE'RE NOT INVENTING THIS OURSELVES.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE VERY SPECIALTY IN THIS AND WE'RE RELYING ON THE INDUSTRY FOR THAT.
AND THEN FEMA UPDATED THEIR, UH, METHODOLOGY.
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WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT IN 24 25.WE'RE USING WHAT'S CALLED THE CURRENT SEISMIC PERFORMANCE PREDICTION PLATFORM SOFTWARE, ALSO BASED ON FEMA P 1 54 METHODOLOGY.
SO WE DID THAT, UM, USING THIS NEW METHODOLOGY.
WE FOLDED IN LIFTS LABS INTO THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE HAD ANALYZED.
AND KEY FINDING IS LIFTS LABS RANK THE HIGHEST IN PRIORITY.
THERE ARE 43 BUILDINGS THAT ARE LIFTS LABS AT L-A-U-S-D.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO PRIORITIZE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN THAT MAJOR FUNDING CATEGORY TO ADDRESS LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS.
SO THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS.
I FIRST WANNA JUST ASSURE EVERYONE WE HAVE BEEN MAKING INVESTMENTS INTO SEISMIC AND WE HAVE INVESTED SINCE THE START OF OUR BOND PROGRAM, ABOUT $6 BILLION SINCE 1999.
LIKE MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I BRING WITH YOU, WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO WITH ONE BOND MEASURE, EVERYTHING, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO, UM, CAMERAS AT EVERY SCHOOL.
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GREEN EVERY CAMPUS.
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO INSTALL ALL NEW AIR CONDITIONING.
WE ALWAYS KIND OF GO TO WHERE THERE'S THE HIGHEST NEED AND WE TRY TO ADDRESS IT WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, WITH THE HOPES THAT IF WE PASS ANOTHER BOND, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THAT LINE AND MAKE PROGRESS THROUGHOUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING.
SO WHEN WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT L-A-U-S-D BUILDINGS, THERE WERE, UM, 704 IDENTIFIED IN THAT AB 300 LIST.
UM, WE'VE DONE 185, THERE'S 519.
THAT REMAINS WOULD BE ADDRESSED.
AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE IMMEDIATELY SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT WE WANNA ADDRESS WHERE WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE THE MOST VULNERABILITY.
SO, UM, OUR METHODOLOGY FOR IDENTIFYING SITES IS USING THE SEISMIC ASSESSMENT.
WE HAVE 43 LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS IDENTIFIED AT 24 SCHOOL SITES.
UM, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT BY REMOVING THE LIFT SLABS.
UM, THERE MAY BE A FEW EXAMPLES WHERE WE CAN RETROFIT.
FOR THE MOST PART, THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURAL SYSTEM DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO RETROFIT.
AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO RETROFIT, THE DSA REQUIRES A FULL CODE UPGRADE AND WE FIND IT MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DEMOLISH AND BUILD NEW.
WE ALSO WILL ONLY BUILD NEW WHAT IS REQUIRED AT THAT CAMPUS FOR ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A DECLINING ENROLLMENT, WE TYPICALLY ARE NEVER BUILDING JUST BACK ONE TO ONE.
UM, AND WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, A FEW WHERE WE DON'T EVEN NEED THOSE BUILDINGS ALTOGETHER, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD REPLACE IT WITH GREEN SPACE IN SOMETHING.
UM, FOR THE OUTDOOR LEARNING AND OPEN SPACE OF THAT CAMPUS, WE'RE GONNA TARGET THOSE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE GREATEST RELIANCE ON SQUARE FOOTAGE ON LIFTS LAB.
SO I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LIST LOOKS LIKE.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT INVENTORY, AND YOU'LL SEE IN BLACK DOTS A TOTAL OF 40, 24 CAMPUSES, UM, 43 BUILDINGS AND FORTY FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO CLASSROOMS IN LIFTS, LAB STRUCTURES BAN HIGH SCHOOL BY FAR THE GREATEST WITH 10 BUILDINGS.
[8. Definition of Three Seismic Modernization Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein]
COME UP.HE'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE THREE PROJECTS, UM, THAT, UH, WE ARE BRINGING.
FIRST OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE DUE DILIGENCE, KIND OF STARTING AT THE TOP, WORKING WITH SCHOOL SITES, DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE SCOPING.
THESE THREE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FAR ENOUGH ALONG THAT WE'RE BRINGING THEM FORWARD.
AND WE'LL BE BRINGING MORE KIND OF IN MULTIPLE PHASES.
SO THIS JUST TO SAY THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING PROJECTS FROM NOW THROUGH 2027 AS WE COMPLETE THAT DUE DILIGENCE AND SCOPING AND NOW HAVE ASAM TALK MORE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
AND HE AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END.
UH, BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIR AND BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR FACILITIES PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND AS CHRISTINA MENTIONED, I'LL BE WALKING THROUGH THE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD, UM, AS PART OF THE SEISMIC MODERNIZATION PROGRAM.
UM, SO I WON'T GO TOO MUCH IN THE BACKGROUND 'CAUSE I THINK CHRISTINA COVERED A LOT OF IT, BUT I DO WANNA MENTION, UM, WE DID THE LIST BACK IN 2025, UH, WHICH HAS THE LIFT SLAB PRIORITY.
I THINK YOU JUST SAW THAT LIST, WHICH HAS THE 24 DISTRICT SITES, WHICH HAS 43 BUILDINGS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE ULTIMATELY THE REAL, UH, GOAL IS TO ADDRESS THE LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS AND REPLACING THEM WITH PERMANENT BUILDINGS FOR THE NECESSARY CAPACITY FOR THE SCHOOL, UM, TO SUPPORT THE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AT EACH OF THOSE CAMPUSES.
SO IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION AND HOW WE DETERMINE WITH THAT LIST OF 24 SCHOOLS, HOW DID WE DECIDE OR HOW ARE WE DECIDING TO GO THROUGH IT? THE FIRST IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE MOST SQUARE FOOTAGE IN LIFTS
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LAB BUILDINGS.SO WE'RE THE TEAM IS ANALYZING THOSE BUILDINGS OR THOSE SITES FIRST AND REALLY TARGETING, TRYING TO GET TO THOSE CAMPUSES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND BRINGING FORWARD A PROJECT TO THE BOC AND TO THE BOARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN CONTINUING TO WORK OUR WAY DOWN THE LIST, UM, OF 24, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE THERE ARE SITES WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY REMOVE BUILDINGS WITHOUT HAVING TO REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER BUILDING.
BECAUSE OF DECLINING ENROLLMENT, THERE MIGHT NOT BE A NEED, UM, FOR ALL OF THE CLASSROOMS ON THAT CAMPUS.
AND SO WE'RE ALSO USING THAT AS ONE OF THE PRIORITIZATIONS.
IF THERE'S A QUICK WAY TO GET OUT THERE, REMOVE THESE BUILDINGS WITHOUT NECESSARILY BUILDING A NEW BUILDING.
BUT WE COULD PROVIDE OUTDOOR LEARNING, UM, OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT WE WOULD DO AT THOSE CAMPUSES.
UM, AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, WE HAVE, WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY THREE PROJECTS.
NORMANDY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A HUNDRED SEVENTH STREET ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND NAUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, ALL THREE OF THESE ARE IN THE SOUTH REGION.
UM, NORMANDY HAS TWO LIFT SIDE BUILDINGS WITH 18 CLASSROOMS. HUNDRED AND SEVENTH STREET HAS TWO BUILDINGS WITH 27 CLASSROOMS AND BAN HAS 10 LIFT SIDE BUILDINGS WITH 40 CLASSROOMS. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PROJECTS, WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL SCOPING TENANTS.
HOW DO WE SCOPE THE PROJECTS? OBVIOUSLY NUMBER ONE IS TO, THE GOAL IS TO REMOVE THE LIFT SLAB BUILDING ITSELF, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS OF REMOVING THE BUILDINGS.
NUMBER ONE IS WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE CAN BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
WE ALSO LOOK AT LONG-TERM CAMPUS PLANNING.
WE ALL WANNA MAKE SMART DECISIONS AS IT RELATES TO BIG PICTURE, UH, PLANNING FOR THE CAMPUS, INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE MIGHT BE REMOVING BUILDINGS AND AS WE BRING NEW BUILDINGS IN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO DO NEW ELECTRICAL, UH, TRANSFORMERS, NEW FIRE ALARMS, UM, ET CETERA WHEN WE ARE BRINGING IN NEW BUILDINGS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE CAMPUS WIDE FIRE ALARM AS ONE OF THE THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE RUN INTO, ESPECIALLY BRINGING ON A NEW BUILDING.
WE ALSO COORDINATE WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ON SITE.
SO AS WE'RE PLANNING THESE PROJECTS, WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE ALREADY BEEN PLANNED AND WORK TO COORDINATE WITH THEM.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IMPROVING, UM, THE AREAS OF THE CAMPUS IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT TO ALIGN WITH OUR GOALS AND STANDARDS.
SO IF WE'RE GOING IN AND REMOVING, UH, OR IN, IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE REMOVING ASPHALT BECAUSE WE'RE REMOVING PORTABLES, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE SHADE, ET CETERA, THAT LINES UP WITH OUR GOALS AND STANDARDS.
UM, AND THEN A DA AS NECESSARY, UM, PER DSA AS WELL AS WHILE WE'RE THERE, IF WE'RE BRINGING IN NEW BUILDINGS, WE WOULD BE PAINTING THE EXTERIORS OF THE REMAINING SO THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO AN ENHANCEMENT OF THE ENTIRE CAMPUS.
SO THIS MAP SHOWS YOU WHERE THOSE THREE SCHOOLS ARE, NORMANDY HUNDRED SEVENTH STREET AND BAN.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THESE ARE IN THE SOUTH REGION.
SO I'M GONNA GO OVER EACH PROJECT, UM, SPECIFICALLY.
SO NORMANDY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UM, THIS PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED, UM, WILL INCLUDE THE DEMOLITION OF, UH, FOUR BUILDINGS CONTAINING 22 TOTAL CLASSROOMS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAP THERE.
THE LIFT SLAB BUILDING BUILDINGS ARE THE ONES DASHED IN RED.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A SMALL, UM, KINDERGARTEN BUILDING AS WELL AS A RELOCATABLE BUILDING THAT WE'LL BE REMOVING BECAUSE AS WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AND LONG-TERM PLANNING FOR THIS SITE, IT MAKES SENSE TO DEVELOP THAT ENTIRE FOOTPRINT AND REMOVE THAT SPACE.
UM, AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING BACK IS NEW ADMINISTRATIVE AREAS AND THREE NEW KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOMS. THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WE LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALL OF THE MAIN, UH, KIND OF HUB FOR THIS SCHOOL IS IN THOSE, THOSE LIFT SIDE BUILDINGS IN RE REGARDS TO IT, UM, CENTRAL PLANTS FOR THE AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING FOR THE OTHER CLASSROOM BUILDINGS.
AND SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
UM, NEW CAMPUS WIDE FIRE ALARM, UM, AND THEN NECESS AS NECESSARY.
THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE LANDSCAPE AND HARDSCAPE SURROUNDING.
SO THIS PROJECT IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY $77 MILLION.
YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET THERE WITH THE SCHEDULE.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2029 AND SE COMPLETING BY THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2031.
ANOTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE TO GET, ONCE WE GET BOARD APPROVAL, WE WILL START THE DESIGN PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE GET THROUGH DESIGN, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DIVISION AND STATE ARCHITECTS FOR APPROVAL AND THEN WE CAN GO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION.
WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS, UM, SORRY, NOT THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS THE OTHER TWO, WOULD BE A DESIGN BUILD, UH, PROCUREMENT.
SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT TO TRY TO EXPEDITE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THE ENROLLMENT AT THIS CAMPUS IS 497 STUDENTS.
UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER CURRENT PROJECTS AT THIS, UH, CAMPUS, HOWEVER YOU MIGHT BE HEARING TODAY.
I THINK IT'S COMING, UH, TODAY THAT THE, UH, MAINTENANCE M AND O IS BRINGING FORWARD AN AUDITORIUM HVAC CRITICAL REPAIR PROJECT WE'VE COORDINATED AND THERE IS NO, UM, ISSUES IN TERMS OF OUR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TWO.
THE TWO CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
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A HUNDRED SEVENTH STREET ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL THE ENTIRE PROJECT SCOPE, BUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE DEMOLISHING, UM, 27 CLASSROOMS IN THE LIFTS LAB BUILDING AS WELL AS 14 UNCERTIFIED PORTABLES.
THOSE ARE THE BLUE PORTABLES THAT YOU SEE THERE.
THIS DOES TWO THINGS AT ONE, IT REMOVES PORTABLES THAT ARE NOT CERTIFIED WITH DSA AS WELL AS KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING IN NEW BUILDINGS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.
IT OPENS UP THE, THE ACTUAL PLAYGROUND SPACE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPACE AND WE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT, IF NOT MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT.
UM, THIS SCHOOL, UM, AS, AS CHRISTINA MENTIONED, AND I THINK I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT SIZING ALL OF THESE CAMPUSES.
SO, UM, WE TAKE A LONG LOOK AT THE ENROLLMENT AND ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING BACK THE RIGHT NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS. SO IT'S NOT A LIKE FOR LIKE, SO WE'RE NOT REMOVING THE SAME, WE'RE NOT REPLACING THE, UH, THE CAMPUS WITH NEW CLASSROOMS WITH THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE'RE REMOVING.
UM, AND THAT GOES WITH, UH, THIS ONE AS WELL.
UM, THIS PROJECT, OR SORRY, THIS SITE DOES HAVE A, UM, ANOTHER PROJECT.
THERE IS A GREENING PROJECT ON THIS, UH, CAMPUS THROUGH TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH THEM TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY FOR THEM TO STILL PROCEED WITH A PORTION OF THEIR PROJECT, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OURS.
UM, THIS PROJECT'S $155 MILLION, UM, Q3 2029 START AND Q2 2032 COMPLETION.
AND THE ENROLLMENT IS 745 STUDENTS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UM, AUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROJECTS WITH THE LARGEST NUMBER OF LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS, 10 LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THERE, ALL OF THE BUILDINGS DASHED IN RED, UM, ARE LIFT SLAB BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE, AND WE'RE ALSO, YOU CAN SEE BUILDING C, WHICH IS NOT A LIFT SIDE BUILDING, BUT IS A PERMANENT BUILDING THAT IS SURROUNDED BY LIFT SIDE BUILDINGS.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, FOR PLANNING REASONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT REMOVING THAT BUILDING AS WELL.
UM, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS ABOUT FOUR CLASSROOMS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE GOOD PLANNING DECISIONS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THIS CAMPUS, THEY HAVE THE SPIRAL.
IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT AN ARBONNE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'VE GOT THE SPIRAL, UM, KIND OF DESIGN.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THAT KIND OF CENTRAL COURTYARD IN INTACT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DESIGN.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE PERMANENT BUILDINGS, WE'RE ALSO REMOVING, UM, SOME OF THE UNCERTIFIED PORTABLE BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE DASHED, UM, OVER THERE IN THE PLAYGROUND AREA.
AGAIN, TRYING TO REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON UNCERTIFIED PORTABLE BUILDINGS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A COUPLE CERTIFIED, WHICH ARE THE ONES IN GREEN, UM, SURROUNDING IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THAT ENTIRE AREA.
THIS PROJECT IS $264 MILLION, UM, Q3 2029 START, Q4, 2033 COMPLETION.
AND THE ENROLLMENT, UM, IS CURRENTLY 1600 STUDENTS.
SO I NOT, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN A LOT OF, UM, INFORMATION, BUT I WILL OPEN IT TO QUESTIONS NOW.
AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY GOOD MORNING NOW.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
I'LL OPEN UP TO OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.
I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION AND IT'S NOT, UH, AND, AND MAYBE IT'S A COMPLEX QUESTION AND IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE SILLY.
UH, YOU'RE GOING INTO DESIGN BUILD MODALITY IN, IN TERMS OF DELIVERY.
IS THERE BEEN A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH YOU GUYS? HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON THE DESIGN BUILD SIDE AND HOW HAS THAT BEEN? I'M REALLY SETTING YOU UP TO THE COURT OF SORT OF BRING BACK TO US, YOU KNOW, THIS SORT OF, UH, WE DO EVERYTHING ON A HIGH LEVEL BUDGETING ESTIMATING, RIGHT? WE'RE THROWING A HUNDRED AND SOME ODD, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
HOW DO YOU, HOW COMFORTABLE DO YOU FEEL AND, AND TO WHAT DEGREE DO YOU FEEL THAT THE DESIGN BUILD IS BRINGING A SAVINGS? MAYBE IT'S TIME, PRODUCTIVITY AND COST, RIGHT.
SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND, AND WE'RE DEFINITELY HAVE SEEN THE BENEFITS OF USING DESIGN BUILD.
UM, MOST DEFINITELY FROM A SCHEDULE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANALYSIS PER SE THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT SAYS A HUNDRED PERCENT WHERE THERE'S A COST SAVINGS.
BUT IF YOU SAVE TIME, THEN IN THEORY YOU'RE ALSO SAVING MONEY AS IT RELATES, UM, TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE SPEED IN WHICH YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
HAS YOUR PRIOR PROJECTS BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO YOUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES? THAT IS A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, EACH PROJECT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND WE GO THROUGH A VERY, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE BUDGETING PROCESS AND WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS CONTINUING TO CONTINUE TO, TO RISE, UM, I WOULD SAY WE DO GET FAIRLY CLOSE AND WE'RE PRETTY CONSISTENT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO, UM, STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET.
BUT IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAINTY THAT WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT BUDGET EVERY TIME.
IN YOUR PRIOR DESIGN BUILD PROJECTS, THESE, THESE ARE BASICALLY TEARDOWNS AND SO YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN MAYBE
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EXISTING SOME LEVEL OF FOOTPRINT.IS THAT UNDERSTANDING? IT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR TEAR DOWNS.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, THE PREVIOUS DESIGN FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU NO.
THESE NEW S PROJECTS, RIGHT, THESE ARE, THESE ARE TEAR DOWNS.
YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO RETRO, RETRO THESE GUYS? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, YES.
WE'RE REMOVING BUILDINGS AND REPLACING THEM WITH, BUT WORKING WITHIN THE EXISTING, THERE'S NO MODERNIZATION.
SO VERSUS MODERNIZING WORKING WITH AN EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF A NEW BUILDING WHERE AN OLD SITE WELL SITE WAS STILL ISSUES, POSSIBLY DISCOVERY OF SOILS, WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY WERE.
AND WORKING DIRECTLY, INITIALLY WITH A CONTRACTOR EARLY ON, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO KIND OF SEE OR FORECAST THESE POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH I THINK REFLECTS THE PRODUCTIVITY, TIME, SAVINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THAT.
BUT I GUESS I'M JUST ADDING THAT OUT THERE AS A PART OF LIKE, THIS IS HOW YOU FORESEE THIS.
WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT SOME, LIKE THE AUDITING THING, LIKE NOW AUDITS IN MY HEAD ALL THE TIME, I'M ALMOST STARTING TO BECOME VERY SMALL SECOND HEAD.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TOO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE DATA OF PROJECTS THAT STARTED OFF WITH A CERTAIN BUDGET AND THEN DISCOVERY AND SO MANY THINGS.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS METHODOLOGY HELPS US TO REDUCE THAT DISCOVERY TO SOME DEGREE.
AND THEN JUST THE NATURE OF THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER EXCEPTION OF MAYBE SOME OTHER SIDE ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP WITH DSA, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE CODE WISE, THAT WE, WE ARE LIMITING THOSE.
I'M ALMOST LIKE ADDING TO YOUR PRESENTATION AS A GOOD THING, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF YOU HAD EXPERIENCE IN THIS ALREADY BEFORE.
WE, WE HAVE MANY DESIGN BUILD PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING, AND WE DEFINITELY LOOK TO UTILIZE DESIGN BUILD WHEN IT'S FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, REPLACING OLD WITH NEW, WE TRY TO, IF IT'S A COMPLICATED PROJECT THAT REQUIRES ANY MODERNIZATION OF EXISTING BUILDINGS, WE TEND TO TRY TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT AND JUST FOCUS ON THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHERS? MR. SULLIVAN? WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM YOU A LOT TODAY.
UM, I'M JUST CHECKING, I, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT A HUNDRED AND SEVENTH STREET ELEMENTARY, THAT THERE WAS AN EXISTING GREENING PROJECT.
IT SOUNDED LIKE WE WEREN'T, THERE WASN'T COMPLETE CERTAINTY THAT THAT PROJECT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AS PLANNED.
UM, BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS I SEE THAT ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE UPGRADES TO LANDSCAPING, HARDSCAPE PLAY AREAS.
SO DO THESE PROJECTS, UM, HELP OR WILL THEY HELP MEET THE GREENING TARGETS AND STANDARDS AT THESE SCHOOLS? YEAH, SO WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IS, UH, ULTIMATELY ONCE WE KNOW, ONCE WE GO INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF GREENING AND INCREASE AMOUNT OF SHADE FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS.
SO THOSE PERCENTAGES WOULD GO UP.
UM, IN THE CASE OF A HUNDRED SEVENTH STREET, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD AS WE GET INTO DESIGN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THE, OR REDO THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND.
AND SO WE WOULD, AS PER OUR STANDARDS, TRY TO ACHIEVE AND GET CLOSE TO THE 30% GREENING IN THE 20% SHADE, JUST TO CLARIFY, BUT BECAUSE I JUST GO UP OR WILL THEY MEET THE TARGET, THEY WOULD GO UP.
SO THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO, SO OUR DESIGN GUIDE SAYS TO TRY TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE 30% AND THE 20% AS POSSIBLE.
AND TO GET THAT AS A STANDARD, WHEN WE DO OUR GREENING PROJECTS, OUR GOAL ON THOSE PROJECTS IS THE 30 AND THE 20% ON THESE PROJECTS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT ZONE IS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ON NORMANDY, UM, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE PLAYGROUND IS RELATIVELY NEW, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE THERE, AS WELL AS THE KINDER IN THE FIRST BUILDING, BRINGING BACK A NEW BUILDING, WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE REDESIGNING AND DOING, REDOING THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND ON THIS CAMPUS.
AND SO WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE IT TO ALL THE WAY TO 30% ON THIS PARTICULAR CAMPUS, BUT WE WOULD BE ADDING TO THE GREENING AS WELL AS SHADE ON THIS, ON THIS CAMPUS.
SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
I'M INTERESTED IN THE NORMANDY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE THREE NEW KINDERGARTEN CLASSROOMS. UH, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THOSE CLASSROOMS? WOULD THOSE BE SUITABLE TO SERVE TK UH, CLASSES WITH THE, THE BATHROOMS AND THE SMALL TOILETS? YEAH, SO OUR STANDARD FOR, UH, A KINDER CLASSROOM, WHICH IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR TK IS 1,350 SQUARE FEET.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE, IT'S 960 SQUARE FEET FOR A GENERAL SIZED CLASSROOM FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO IT'S BIGGER AND IT USUALLY HAS A RESTROOM IN BETWEEN, AND IT'S SHARED BETWEEN TWO CLASSROOMS. SO YES.
SO IN THIS CASE, IF WE'RE BUILDING THREE, TWO OF THEM WOULD BE SHARED WITH THE RESTROOM, AND THEN ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE A STANDALONE.
MR. PENSKI LOOKING AT THE COST OF THIS FOR THREE SCHOOLS, IT'S A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS WHERE ALL THE FUNDS GONNA COME FROM.
AS THE BOND DOLLARS ARE GOING DOWN, WHERE DO THESE SCHOOLS FIT IN THE MASTER PLAN OF UPDATES? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT IT FITS THERE, EXCUSE ME, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOW MANY MORE CAMPUSES THAT WE, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THEN THERE'S GONNA BE 21 MORE.
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YEAH, SO BAN IS DEFINITELY THE BIGGEST ONE.AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN FOR, AND WE STARTED WITH THE ONES WITH THE HIGHEST SQUARE FOOTAGE OF LIFT SLABS, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TARGETING THE HIGHER LEVEL, THE HIGHER NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN WHICH WE'LL HAVE A HIGHER COST.
SO WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT AS WE START TO GO DOWN THE LIST, THE COST SHOULD START TO COME DOWN BASED ON THE, THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT SHOULD COME DOWN, WHICH IN RETURN SHOULD MEAN A, A LOWER, UH, PROJECT BUDGET.
HOW DOES THAT FIT IN THE MASTER BOND PLAN THAT YOU HAVE? BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE ALL THE REGULAR WORK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SO THIS, SO THIS FALLS, AND I THINK IN CHRISTINA'S, UH, PRESENTATION, SHE SHOWED THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF FUNDS.
AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE MAJOR, UM, SEISMIC, UH, UPGRADE FUND.
AND SO THERE'S 2 BILLION PLUS, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S IN THE BILLION CURRENT, THERE'S CURRENTLY 2 BILLION LEFT.
SO THAT FROM MEASURE, SORRY, FROM MEASURE U, FROM MEASURE US, RIGHT? SO THEN YOU, YOU CAN'T UNDER THE EXISTING BONDS FINISH THESE PROJECTS, YOU CAN GET TO MAYBE ANOTHER FIVE TO SEVEN OUT OF THIS MASTER LIST.
RIGHT? SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY, UM, SAY THAT THE SAME, THAT, THAT I WOULDN'T TAKE THE AVERAGE OF THESE THREE AND SAY THAT THAT'S GONNA BE APPLIED BECAUSE UBON IS SO LARGE IN TERMS OF THE COST.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE LARGEST ONE WITH 10 LIFT SLIDE BUILDINGS.
SO THE OTHER PROJECTS WILL HAVE LOWER, UH, BUDGETS THAN THE AVERAGE OF THESE THREE.
AND HOW DO THEY FIT INTO THE MASTER PLAN? WHEN YOU SAY MASTER PLAN, SO AS, AS WE PRESENTED EARLIER, THERE'S A LIST OF 24 SCHOOL SITES.
SO THEY'RE AT THE TOP, THEY'RE THE, WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE, BUT I MEAN, HOW DO I ARTICULATE IT? SO YOU HAVE TO DO UPGRADES TO MOST OF THE SCHOOLS IN GENERAL.
AND SO THERE'S A MASTER PLAN THAT YOU'RE CHOOSING HERE, THE SCHOOLS WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING HERE AND, AND WHATNOT ALONG THE WAY.
HOW DID THESE 24 FIT INTO THAT MASTER PLAN? DOES THAT CHANGE THE PROJECTED ON THE OTHER SCHOOLS TO DO THESE? SO, SO I YOU GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
AND, AND SCOTT, WHAT I PROBABLY SHOULD DO IS, UM, I CAN ARRANGE A TIME TO MEET WITH YOU, UM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE GIVEN OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE, UM, AND LET ME JUST GO REALLY QUICKLY BACK TO A BUNCH OF SLIDES.
OH, THIS IS GOING TO JUST BEAR WITH ME.
SO THIS WAS, UH, YOU PRESENTED A PLAN WHEN I WAS OUT? YEAH.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS, IS PRESENTED THE WHOLE SCHOOL UPGRADE PROGRAM, WHICH HAS VARIOUS, WHAT WE CALL FUNDING CATEGORIES.
AND WITHIN EACH OF THOSE FUNDING CATEGORIES, THERE IS A PRIORITIZATION PLAN FOR EACH OF THOSE FUNDING CATEGORIES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE ARE.
SO WE HAVE FUNDING CATEGORIES LIKE NUMBERS FIVE AND SIX, WHICH ARE SPECIFIC FOR GREENING, WHICH USE A PRIORITIZATION THAT LOOKS AT THE PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE AT A SCHOOL AND TARGETS THOSE SCHOOLS WITH THE HIGHEST, UM, UH, NEED FOR GREEN SPACE.
AND WE PRIORITIZE THOSE SITES.
UM, WE HAVE MONEY FOR, UM, EARLY EDUCATION AND THEY PRIORITIZE.
WE WORK WITH OUR CLIENT EARLY EDUCATION AND THEY PRIORITIZE BASED ON, UM, A VARIOUS NUMBER OF, UH, KIND OF NEEDS OF WHERE DO THEY HAVE THE GREATEST NEED FOR EARLY EDUCATION SITES.
SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CATEGORY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS.
ONCE WE GO AND IDENTIFY THESE SITES, THE TEAM KIND OF UNDERSTANDS WHAT OTHER PROJECTS ARE EITHER ONGOING AT THESE SITES OR NEEDED AT THESE SCHOOL SITES.
UM, THESE PARTICULAR ONES, OBVIOUSLY, AS ASSAM WAS SAYING, WE'RE AWARE THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS HERE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF DATA ON OUR EXISTING FACILITIES.
SO WE ALREADY KNOW AT THESE SITES BASED ON THE DUE DILIGENCE, IF THERE'S, LET'S SAY A CENTRAL CHILLER THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THAT, OR IF THERE'S A LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY THAT WE WERE GONNA PICK UP THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO THE MASTER PLANNING IS NOT A, UM, ONE SIZE FITS ALL BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF COORDINATE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR AND WHAT THE NEEDS SPECIFIC NEEDS FOR ARE AT THESE BUILDING, AT THESE SITES.
SO IF WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OTHER WORK ON THESE CAMPUSES MM-HMM
THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO LOWER THE BUDGET FOR THOSE ABSOLUTELY.
WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THOSE FUTURE ONES AND VICE VERSA, THE ONES YOU'LL PRESENT IN THE FUTURE.
WE ARE NOT GONNA DUPLICATE ANY SCOPE OR TEAR OUT ANY SCOPE.
SO MY QUESTION ACTUALLY PIGGYBACKS ON
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SOME OF WHAT WAS JUST ASKED.SO IF THERE IS AN EXISTING PROJECT AT ONE OF THESE SCHOOL SITES OR ANY SCHOOL SITE MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, SO THEN YOU, YOU ADJUST, I'M ASSUMING YOU DO ADJUST WHAT YOU'RE DOING SO THAT YOU'RE NOT, UH, EITHER IF IT, IF THE PROJECT HASN'T STARTED THIS OTHER PROJECT, THEN EITHER THAT IT WON'T START BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
BUT IF IT HAS STARTED, THEN YOU WORK AROUND IT SO THAT IT CONTINUES AND IT THEN IT JUST, UH, ADJUSTS YOUR BUDGET.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT WORKING IN CALIFORNIA AS COMPARED TO THE EAST COAST IS WE CAN HAVE ON A HIGH SCHOOL, 40 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, RIGHT? AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE, IN THIS CASE WE WILL BE DOING ONE OR TWO IN THE CASE OF BAN 10 BUILDINGS, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A, UM, A CAMERA AND SECURE GATE ENTRY, THOSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO KIND OF CONFLATION THERE.
UM, WHAT WE DON'T DO IS WE DON'T TEAR DOWN BUILDINGS WHEN THERE'S BEEN A MAJOR UPGRADE TO THAT BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF FUNDS.
UM, AND WE'RE PROACTIVE WHEN WE'RE DOING THOSE UPGRADES TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING CURRENT CODE, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED IN KIND OF THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION PLANNING DESIGN SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION.
THEY SPEND, UM, CLOSE TO SIX TO NINE MONTHS BEFORE THEY BRING THESE PROJECTS TO THE BOC AND THE BOARD KIND OF EVALUATING, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY EVALUATE, UM, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS BEFORE THEY BRING THESE PROJECTS TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE CONSIDERED.
AND JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION, UH, FOR THESE THREE THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IS, IS IT, WAS IT REALLY BASED JUST ON THE NUMBER OF STRUCTURES ON THESE CAMPUSES OR THE AGE? OR IS IT A COMBINATION OF FACTORS? NO, THIS ARE REALLY HOW THE SITES WERE IDENTIFIED WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD A LIFT SLAB BUILDING ON THEM.
SO AS YOU'LL SEE ON THIS LIST, UM, THIS IS EVERY CAMPUS, 24 CAMPUSES THAT HAVE LIFTS LAB BUILDINGS ON THEM.
AND THEN WE RANK THEM BY THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THEY HAVE.
YOU SEE, REALLY BAN IS AN EXCEPTION WITH 10, AND THEN THE REST OF 'EM DROP TO LIKE ONESIE, TWOSIES, RIGHT? UM, AND SO WE WANNA GO WHERE THERE'S THE GREATEST IMPACT TO STUDENTS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE HITTING THOSE FIRST, LIKE DREW, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE ALSO ARE STILL IN THAT DUE DILIGENCE PHASE.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET.
BUT WE ALWAYS WANNA GO WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT TO THE MOST AMOUNT OF STUDENTS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT NAUGH HIGH SCHOOL, UM, I DO SEE THE ENROLLMENT TREND THERE IS DOWN ABOUT 14%.
I'M CURIOUS, WILL THIS WORK SINCE REPLACING SO MANY STRUCTURES, WILL IT CHANGE OR ALTER THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF THE SCHOOL? SO RIGHT NOW, UH, GOOD QUESTION.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE SCHOOL HAS 1,638 STUDENTS.
AND SO WE'RE NOT BUILDING BACK THE SAME NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS. BAN IS A, A PRETTY BIG CASE IN, IN THE SENSE THAT THEY HAVE 120 CURRENT CLASSROOMS NOW, AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD BACK, WELL WITH, AFTER WE BUILD BACK THE NEW CLASSROOMS, THEY'LL HAVE 79.
SO THEY'RE GONNA GO FROM 120 CLASSROOMS TO 79.
HOWEVER, THIS, BASED ON OUR ENROLLMENT ANALYSIS, AND BASED ON THE CAPACITY ANALYSIS, THEY CAN STILL ACCOMMODATE UP TO 1600 STUDENTS WITHIN THAT 79 CLASSROOMS. THANK YOU.
I, I NEED TO CLARIFY FOR STAFF, UH, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, IT UNIQUELY HOW WE CARRIED OVER FROM THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, THIS IS AN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERING.
THESE ARE THREE SEISMIC MODERNIZATION PROJECTS.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WITHOUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION ALL MOTION? MR. SULLIVAN? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
MR. POPE JOY, YOU CAN ASK, UH, FOR THE, YOU CAN ASK FOR THE, UH, VOTE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
THE RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THREE SEISMIC MODERNIZATION PROJECTS, MS. BELL? AYE.
UH, MS. URCHIN MUELLER IS LEFT.
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MR. CAMPBELL? AYE.THE, UH, RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 14 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES IN ONE ABSENT.
[7. Chief Facilities Executive’s Report (Information Only) Part 2 of 2)]
TO ITEM SEVEN, THE SECOND HALF OF THE CFE PRESENTATION FOR SHADE STRUCTURES.THAT'LL THEN SEGUE INTO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED, UM, BY MR. MARK CHO WITH SEVEN SHADE STRUCTURES.
BUT I'LL MAKE THAT COMMENT AGAIN.
ANOTHER NEW PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, SHADE OVER PLACE STRUCTURES.
SO LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THAT IS ABOUT.
SO THE DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY HAS INCORPORATED NEW SHADE SHELTERS WHEN WE'VE DONE A LARGER PROJECT.
SO IF WE'RE DOING A NEW CLASSROOM BUILDING THAT INCLUDES PLAYGROUND, WE'LL INCORPORATE A SHADE SHELTER, UM, THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD A PROGRAM YET, THAT IS JUST SPECIFICALLY TO DO SHADE SHELTERS.
SO IN THE SUP, WHEN THE BOARD APPROVED THE SUP, THERE WAS A CATEGORY SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFYING $40 MILLION TO INSTALL SHADE SHELTERS OVER PLAY STRUCTURES.
OBVIOUSLY WITH THE INTENT THAT GIVEN, UM, THE CLIMATE BECOMING INCREASINGLY HOT, THE RECURRENCE OF HEAT EVENTS, UM, THAT OUR PLAY STRUCTURES WERE NOT USABLE WHEN THEY'RE TOO HOT TO THE TOUCH AND SHADE SHELTERS, OVERPLAY WOULD ALLOW THOSE STRUCTURES TO CONTINUE TO BE USED.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE FIRST BATCH OF THOSE PROJECTS IS THAT THERE WOULD BE 49 PROJECTS DISTRICT WIDE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S REMAINING FUNDS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UM, PROPOSE PROJECTS.
WHEN WE GO TO SITES, WE KNOW THAT WE MIGHT SEE SOME REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAY MATTING THAT'S NEEDED, REPAIR OF THE PLACE STRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED.
THESE DO TRIGGER ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
AND DEPENDING ON THE SOILS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE LIQUEFACTION, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MITIGATE FOR THOSE SOILS CONDUCTIONS.
SO LIKE WHEN WE DO WITH ANY NEW PROGRAM, WE DEVELOP WHAT THE PRIORITIZATION METHODOLOGY IS, UM, AND THEN WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN WE LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GONNA DELIVER THESE PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE LOOK AT KIND OF THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE.
IN THIS CASE, THE PRIORITIZATION METHODOLOGY.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 387 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT DO NOT HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES OVER THEIR PLAY STRUCTURES.
UM, THERE ARE 53 WHERE WE HAVE CURRENT OR PLANNED SHADE OVER PLAY STRUCTURES.
THESE MAY BE AS PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT OR FUNDED BY THE REGIONAL OR BOARD MEMBER DISCRETIONARY FUND PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE.
AND THEN WE'LL BE ADDING ANOTHER 10%, 49.
UM, AND IF WE HAVE EXISTING OR REMAINING FUNDS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING MORE.
SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE ROUGHLY 80% OF OUR SCHOOLS WILL STILL NOT HAVE SHADE OVERPLAY.
AND IF MORE BONDS WERE TO PASS, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS.
AGAIN, THIS IS EXCITING 'CAUSE IT'S THE FIRST OF A NEW PROGRAM.
UM, AND WE CAN ONLY MAKE PROGRESS FROM HERE.
SO WHAT WE DETERMINED IS THAT WE WOULD EQUALLY DISTRIBUTE THESE ACROSS BOARD DISTRICTS.
SO EACH BOARD DISTRICT WOULD GET SEVEN.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT, THERE WERE INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS.
SHOULD WE GO BY HEAT? SHOULD WE GO BY? UM, HOW, UH, HOW MANY PLACE STRUCTURES ARE THERE REALLY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT HEAT, WHEN THERE'S A HEAT EVENT, UM, THAT IMPACTS THE WHOLE L-A-U-S-D AREA.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ALL PLACE STRUCTURES BECOME WARM.
UM, SO THERE WASN'T A HUGE GRADATION TO SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA ONLY DO THOSE IN THE VALLEY AND NOT THOSE IN SOUTHEAST LA THEY'RE ALL HOT WHEN IT GETS HOT.
SO WE'RE STARTING WITH A GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION.
UM, BUT WE DID SET A CUTOFF IN ENROLLMENT, STARTING WITH SITES THAT HAVE OVER 250 STUDENTS.
THAT'S ABOUT 75% OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE 250 STUDENTS OR MORE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO RANKED BY C.
SO C IS THE STUDENT EQUITY NEEDS INDEX.
IT INCORPORATES, UM, A NUMBER OF FOSTER YOUTH, HOMELESS YOUTH, UM, UH, NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING STUDENTS.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TARGETING THE SCHOOLS IN EACH BOARD DISTRICT THAT HAVE OVER 250 STUDENTS AND HAVE THE HIGHEST C SCORES.
UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THIS LIST HERE, IT LISTS EACH OF THOSE SEVEN IN EACH BOARD DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN IN REGARDS TO IMPLEMENTATION, UM, IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE HOW WE QUICKLY WERE ABLE TO DO THESE PROJECTS, WE'RE USING PRE DSA APPROVED SHADE SHELTERS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO DSA.
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THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE CUSTOM DESIGNED IS THE FOUNDATIONS AND THE FOOTINGS.UM, AND THAT DOES ADD TO THE COST.
IF WE'RE IN A LIQUID FACTION ZONE, WHICH MOST OF THE WEST VALLEY IS, SOMETIMES THOSE FOUNDATIONS CAN GO 16 FEET DOWN.
YOU WOULD NEVER NOTICE WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE RESISTANT TO BOTH SEISMIC AND WIND FORCES.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UM, YOU'LL SEE THIS SET HERE ARE ALL IN A SPECIFIC REGIONAL AREA.
WE WANNA BID THESE IN CLUSTERS, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING THEM BY REGIONAL AREA.
YOU'LL SEE THE NEXT ONE KIND OF GROUPED THAT WAY AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN GET, UM, MORE PARTICIPATION FROM CONTRACTORS ON WHAT IS SMALLER PROJECTS, BUT THERE MIGHT BE MORE INTEREST WHEN WE BUNDLE THEM TOGETHER.
SO YOU'LL SEE THESE ARE THE FIRST SEVEN ALL LOCATED IN THE NORTH REGION.
AND THEN MARK CHO, UM, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THESE.
[9. Seven Shade Structure Over Play Equipment Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein ]
REPRESENTING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH ARE SEVEN SHADE STRUCTURES OVER PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT PROJECTS.DID I SAY NUMBER SEVEN? NUMBER NINE, YOU DIDN'T CORRECT ME.
BUT ITEM NUMBER NINE, I AS MENTIONED BY CHRISTINA, THOSE ARE THE SEVEN PROJECTS IN NORTH REGION.
THE SIZE OF THIS SHARE STRUCTURE ARE, UH, VERY DIFFERENT FROM EACH, UH, PROJECT UNITS.
UH, THE SMALLEST ONE IS 1200 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S LINE ITEM NUMBER 1, 4, 5, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 2,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO LARGEST ONE WE HAVE IS LINE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND NUMBER THREE I, THE REASON I MENTION IS BECAUSE SIZE MATTERS, IT IMPACTS THE COST AND ALSO IMPACTS THE FOUNDATION.
SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS THAT, UH, SIZE, UH, FOUNDATION.
THEN ALSO HOW MUCH A DA WORK IS REQUIRED FOR EACH SITE DETERMINES THE PRICE.
AVERAGE COST OF PRICE, PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $520,000.
UM, IF YOU NOTICE, I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
THAT'S THE SMALLEST SHADE, 1200 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT IS THE LARGEST IN THE AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT BUDGET.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE, WHEN WE WENT OUT TO THE SITE, WE FOUND OUT THAT THIS IS THE SITE, UNLIKE OTHERS, THAT REQUIRES THE REPLACEMENT OF MATTING.
SO MATTING COST FOR THIS SITE, UH, IS COMING FROM CRITICAL REPAIR BUCKET.
SO IF YOU SUBTRACT THAT, THEN UH, SHADE STRUCTURE COST IS ABOUT $528,000.
NUMBER FOUR, I KNOW KRISTEN, I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT, UH, ABOUT THIS, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN REQUIRES THE REPAIR OF PLAY STRUCTURE.
SO THAT WILL BE DONE BY OUR MAINTENANCE FUND.
SO THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES OF WHAT ALREADY INSTALLED AT FOUR DIFFERENT SITES.
AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF THE SHADE SAIL FABRIC IS ABOUT 15, GOES ALL THE WAY TO 15 YEARS, 10 TO 15 YEARS.
UH, PLAY STRUCTURE, SAME THING, GOES ALL THE WAY TO 15 YEARS, MARRYING SAME THING IN BETWEEN 10 TO 15 YEARS.
HOWEVER, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE COLUMNS AND FOUNDATION WILL LAST MUCH LONGER THAN 15 YEARS.
SO IN CASE YOU WONDER HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO REPLACE THE FABRIC.
WE HAVE A RECENT PROJECTS, ONE FROM HYDE PARK, EEC.
THE OTHER ONE IS FROM 36TH STREET.
UH, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FABRIC IS $18,000 AND $12,000.
RESPECTFULLY GOING BACK, UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT REQUIRES DESIGN AND DSA, UH, TOTAL PROJECT COST IS LITTLE OVER $3.8 MILLION.
WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTION IN QUARTER TWO OF 2027.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. CHO.YOU KNOW, WE, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT SHADE STRUCTURES BEING AT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE.
UM, IN FACT, AT THE, UH, AGENDA SETTING MEETING, UM, THIS WAS ASKED AGAIN AND WE, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S ALSO MORE WORK TO THE SHADE STRUCTURE THAN JUST THE STRAIGHT, THE SHADE STRUCTURE ITSELF.
UM, FOUNDATION COSTS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE SHADE STRUCTURES WILL VARY DEPENDING ON SOILS CONDITIONS.
DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE, WE KNOW ONE OF THESE ACTUALLY BE ACTUALLY EXTENDED IN HEIGHT DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD TO THE PUBLIC.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY PUBLIC SPEAKER.
UM, WE DO ASK IN OUR DUE DILIGENCE WHY THESE COSTS.
'CAUSE IT DOES SOUND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, WHAT REASONABLE.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THE SCOPE OF WORK.
YOU'RE GONNA SAY, I CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A BETTER EXAMPLE.
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO INSTALL WASHER AND DRYER? IT COMES UP A LOT.
AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE EXAMPLES AT, UH, LATER, UH, PRESENTATION FOR THE BDP AND RRP PROJECT.
THIS WASHER AND DRYER, IF YOU INSTALL IT AT HOME, YOU ALREADY HAVE A BUILTIN INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE YOU HAVE A POWER WATER, HOT WATER, COLD WATER, YOU HAVE DRAINAGE, AND YOU HAVE VENTILATION.
IN OUR CASE, IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE THAT I WILL BE PRESENTING LATER IS ABOUT $41,000.
WE INSTALLING THIS WASHER AND DRYER IN A LOCATION WHERE THE BUILDING ITSELF IS 91 YEARS OLD.
UH, AT THE TIME WE NEVER HAD WASHER AND DRYER.
SO WE HAVE TO INSTALL PANEL DRAG, ALL THE, UH, 60 AMP, UH, JUICE ALL THE WAY TO THE LOCATION, SECOND FLOOR DRAINAGE, OR IF YOU ADD UP, IT'S ABOUT $40,000.
SAME THING WITH UH, SHARE STRUCTURE.
THIS IS A DESIGN AND DSA PROJECT.
AND BEFORE THE DESIGN STARTS, WE NEED TO DO THE SOIL ASSESSMENT TESTING.
UH, IS IT IN LIQUEFACTION ZONE LIQUEFACTION? FORTUNATELY, ALL THESE SEVEN PROJECTS ARE IN NON LIQUIFACTION ZONE, MEANING SOIL IS VERY STABILIZED, SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST COMPARED TO OTHER PROJECTS IN INACTION ZONES.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WE ARE DIGGING THE CONCRETE ASPHALT WHERE WE HAVE TO APPLY THE POLICIES OF THE EPA.
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL ASSOCIATED COST.
AND I DO HAVE, HAVE A BREAKDOWN ABOUT $21,000 IS SITE AND ENVIRONMENTAL COST AND, UH, PLANNING AND DESIGN DSA FEE AND PRINTING COSTS AND EVERYTHING IS ABOUT $81,000.
THAT THAT 41,000 YOU HAD MENTIONED IN GENERAL, THAT WAS REALLY FOR ASSESSMENTS.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IF THERE HAS TO BE REMEDIATION, IT'S ACTUALLY ASSESSMENT.
AND QUA REQUIREMENT, AND WE HAVE TO DO ALL THAT HOMEWORK.
SO THAT'S ABOUT 20,000, $21,000.
$81,000 IS DESIGNED DSAV PRINTING AND COORDINATION AND CA UH, ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIVE COST DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT 70%.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, I GIVE YOU, UH, EARLIER, SO ABOUT $370,000 IS THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
THAT IS TO PROCURE AND BUY THE SHADE STRUCTURE THROUGH THE FOUNDATION AND ALL THIS A DA WORK, WHICH IS PART OF IT.
THEN THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS $26,000.
THIS IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER IN CASE THERE'S ANY CHANGE ORDER OR IF THERE'S ANY UNFOR CONDITIONS, THEN THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE PAPERWORK TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CORRECT.
THEN THE REMAINING 6% IS JUST THE RESERVE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT IF WE DON'T NEED TO USE IT.
SO IF YOU ADD ALL THIS, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, THAT'S HOW IT BECOMES HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
QUESTIONS MS. KAISER? UM, FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND THEN THE FINDINGS OF, UM, WITH THE SOIL TESTING THAT COULD CREATE UNFORESEEN CHANGES AND CHANGES IN SCOPE TO THE PROJECT, CAN YOU MAYBE SPEAK TO THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOUR TEAM HAS WHEN WORKING WITH, UM, A CONTRACTOR AND HOW COST ESCALATION, UM, FROM THOSE
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FINDINGS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE INCREASED COST AND, AND HOW, LIKE THE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP AND IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CONTRACTOR PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION TO POTENTIALLY MITIGATE THOSE FACTORS AND INCREASE COSTS? YES.UM, A LOT OF CASES YOU DON'T KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE AS BUILT DRAWINGS SHOWING WHAT'S UNDERNEATH OF THE GROUND, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW ONCE YOU OPEN IT UP WHAT'S UNDER THE GROUND.
SO THERE SHOULD BE AN UNFORTUNATE CONDITIONS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION START.
WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR HOMEWORK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICT, ONCE YOU OPEN IT UP, HEY, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER EXPECTED THERE IS DOWN THERE THAT WE NEED TO ABATE, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
DEFINITELY IT COMES UP A LOT DURING CONSTRUCTION OR DURING THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS IS DIGGING THE GROUND, THEY HIT THE WATERLINE, THEN WATERLINE RUPTURES, THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL COST.
UM, IF THAT IS CONS, CONTRACTORS' ERR, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY.
BUT A LOT OF CASES WE HAVE TO SHOW, WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO SHOW, HEY, THERE IS A WATER LINE, THERE IS A POWER LINE, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL.
SO WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER TO AVOID ANY SPIKE COST AND DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT UH, THERE WILL BE ALWAYS AN UNFORTUNATE CONDITION.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE SIX, 7% OF RESERVES FOR THE CONTINGENCY.
SO MY QUESTION AS A PARENT, WHAT I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE BASIC LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS IMPLEMENTED BY THE FSD WHEN YOU'RE TAKING ON ALL THESE CAMPUS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
UM, ARE YOU TAKING FEEDBACK FROM THE FAMILIES OF THE SCHOOL, THE THE CHILDREN ARE IN ATTENDANCE, THE TEACHERS AS FAR AS THE UPGRADES TO NOT ONLY SHADE STRUCTURES, BUT THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.
UM, I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY INPUT ISN'T REALISTIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TECHNICAL PROJECTS SUCH AS, UM, SEISMIC UPGRADES.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO UPGRADING THE PLAY STRUCTURES, DO YOU GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S LEFT TO THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY ITSELF, UH, INDIVIDUALLY? IS THERE SOME SORT OF WAY FSD IMPLEMENTS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? SO THIS, THIS SPECIFIC PROJECTS, ONCE BOARD APPROVES, ONCE YOU APPROVE, ONCE BOARD APPROVES WILL BE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL, WALK THE SITE AND THEY WILL HAVE THEIR, UH, CONTRIBUTION IN SELECTING IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, UH, DECISION IS MADE THAT WE WILL BE INSTALLING THIS CHANGE STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE, BUT WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL, SELECTING COLORS OF THE FABRIC, COLORS OF THE COLUMN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE SCHOOL'S STANDARD COLOR.
SO THAT, TO ANSWER YOUR CORRECT, UH, YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL AND SCHOOL SITE ADMINISTRATION.
UH, WHO DEVELOPS AND APPROVES THE PRIORITIZATION METHODOLOGY? IT WAS, UH, THIS, TO SELECT THIS 49 SCHOOL SITES.
YES, IT WAS DONE BY, UH, ISAM AND HIS PEOPLE.
I WOULD, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY CONSIDERATION OR WHAT GOES INTO CHOOSING AN EQUAL AMOUNT AMONGST EACH BOARD DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO JUST FOCUSING ON THE MOST IMPACTED SITES, FOLKS.
SO WE HAVE A, UM, UH, A WORKSHOPS THAT WE DO WITH OUR BOARD.
UH, WE HAD THEM WITH, UH, AT SEVERAL, WHAT THEY CALL BOARD MEETINGS, BOARD WORKSHOPS, UM, WHERE THERE IS A SPECIFIC NEED LIKE YOU SAW ON THE LIFTS LABS.
THOSE ARE PRIMARILY IN BOARD DISTRICT SEVEN, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO EQUAL GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT THE LIFTS LABS ARE IN VERY SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND SO IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE BOARD DISTRICT THAT'S GOING TO RECEIVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENTS TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR NEED.
UM, SAME WITH THE GREENING INVESTMENTS.
WE DON'T DO THAT BY A GEOGRAPHIC EQUAL DISTRIBUTION.
THOSE ARE TARGETED TO WHERE THE SCHOOLS HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE.
SO WE ARE ALWAYS TARGETING, WHERE'S THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF NEED IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THE NEED IS, UM, GEOGRAPHICALLY SPREAD OUT, RIGHT? THERE IS NO ONE SITE THAT CAN SAY WE NEED SHADE OVER OUR PLAY OVER ANOTHER.
WHEN YOU'RE IN A HEAT EVENT, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF HOT TO THE TOUCH.
AND SO JUST, WE HAD LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE DISTRIBUTE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A HEAT EVENT AND THE VALLEY MIGHT BE 116 AND SOUTHEAST MIGHT BE LIKE A HUNDRED.
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MATTER.UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT NEED IS WIDESPREAD.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TAKING THE, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EACH GEOGRAPHIC AREA STARTS WITH SOMETHING AND THEN WE'LL WORK OUR WAY KIND OF DOWN.
SO THIS ONE DIDN'T LEND ITSELF TO A BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY A, A GREATEST NEED OTHER THAN WE NEED THEM EVERYWHERE.
AND WE HAVE SIMILAR ONES LIKE, UM, UH, UM, DRINKING FOUNTAINS, RIGHT? THAT'S A GEOGRAPHIC NEED THROUGHOUT, UM, UH, SECURITY BUZZARDS AT AT OUR SCHOOL SITES.
THAT'S A GEOGRAPHIC NEED, UM, THROUGHOUT.
SO THIS ONE IS APPROACH THAT REFLECTS THERE.
WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T, THIS DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM THAT ONLY ONE SPECIFIC AREA HAS.
UM, MS. TOSS, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION TOO, IN TERMS OF, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DOING THEM IN CONCENTRATED AREAS TOGETHER AND JUST WAS WONDERING HOW, I GUESS IT'S AREA THREE WAS SELECTED TO GO FIRST.
IS IT, BECAUSE IT LOOKS ON HERE ON YOUR NUMBERS, IT'S THE HOTTEST THERE.
SO IS THAT WHY YOU WENT THERE FIRST? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, I THINK WE JUST HAD TO PICK SOMEPLACE.
WE HAD DONE SOME EVALUATIONS IN TERMS OF, WE HAD SOME PREVIOUS SOIL STUDIES THAT WE HAD DONE.
UM, IT COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE TO PICK ONE AND GO
THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT, IT'LL PROBABLY BE IN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE SOUTHEAST OR OR CENTRAL.
BUT UM, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN PRETTY RAPID SUCCESSION.
WE HAD TO START SOMEWHERE AND THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED WITH.
GEOGRAPHIC BUNDLING ACTUALLY SAVE THE COST.
YEAH, I HEARD THAT PART OF IT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHO GOT TO BE IN THE FIRST BUNDLE
WHY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS? THE SECOND PAGE? YOU HAVE SOME EXAMPLES HERE.
THE SYLVAN PARK WAS ORIGINALLY DONE.
UH, SYLVAN PARK IS ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, HIGHER THAN 1200.
THE SMALLEST ONE WE HAVE, IT ACTUALLY COSTED US ACTUAL COST $490,000 ACTUAL COST.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE MARKET AS WELL.
SO SINCE THIS IS COMING IN AS A BID, THEN WE CANNOT, UH, REALLY PINPOINT THE COST, HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE UNTIL IT GETS AWARDED.
YEAH, I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF AND QUICK.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE LIFECYCLE OF THE EQUIPMENT IS POTENTIALLY UP TO 15 YEARS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURE AS WELL.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A SHADE STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING IN OVER EQUIPMENT THAT'S REACHING THE, YOU KNOW, YEAR EIGHT OR 10, UM, AND WHEN IT HITS YEAR 15 AND SAY IT'S UP FOR ITS TIME FOR NEW EQUIPMENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SHADE STRUCTURE THAT YOU JUST PUT IN THREE YEARS PRIOR? SO THOSE WILL FALL UNDER DIFFERENT PROGRAM.
IT'S CALLED CRITICAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
SO IF IT BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE, THEN THAT, UH, PROGRAM WILL FUND REPLACING THE PLAY STRUCTURE OR UH, SHADE STRUCTURE AS WELL.
SO WILL THERE BE REMOVAL OR IMPACT TO THESE NEW SHADE STRUCTURES THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN? WILL THEY HAVE TO BE THEN REMOVED TO REACH TO, TO PUT IN NEW PLAY EQUIPMENT? NO, IT CAN BE DONE IN INDIVIDUALLY.
THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ARE DOING A MATTING IN ONE OF THE PROJECT IS
AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A SHARE STRUCTURE INSTALLED, ANOTHER COMPANY CAN COME IN AND INSTALL AND REPLACE THE EXISTING MATTING OR PLAY STRUCTURE AS WELL.
SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL DO, UH, MORE DETERMINATION AND FIND OUT WHICH STRUCTURE NEEDS A REPAIR.
IN OUR CASE, LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, RASHIDA AND VALERIO WILL REQUIRE, UH, REPAIR, SO WE'LL BE REPAIRING THOSE AS WE DO THIS PROJECT, I GUESS TO MEDICATE COSTS WITH, WITH EXPERTISE.
IS THERE, IS THERE SOME SORT OF APPROACH TO SAY THAT WHOEVER'S DOING THE SHADE STRUCTURE WOULD THEN ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THE PLAY EQUIPMENT? IF THAT'S SOMETHING UNDER THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PURVIEW OF SERVICES? BECAUSE I LOOK, I LOOK AT WHAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO STARTS A PROJECT AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE NEW THAT COMES IN AND THEN THEY HAVE IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS THAT COULD INCUR COST BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THE ORIGINAL BUILDER.
SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THE COMPANY WE ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE, UH, FOR THE INSTALLATION, IT'S JUST THEY'RE FOCUSING ON SHARE STRUCTURE INSTALLATION.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR, UH, THEY'RE NOT THE GC TO HIRE ANOTHER COMPANY TO REPAIR PLAY STRUCTURE, BUT USUALLY PLAY STRUCTURE REPAIR.
WE HAVE ANOTHER TASK ORDER CONTRACTOR STANDING BY TO GO IN THERE ANYTIME TO DO THE REPAIR, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME
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COMPANY DOING SINCE I'M THERE, I CAN DO THE REPAIR OF AC OR REPAIR OF THE ROOF.IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR CASE.
IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL FOR, FOR COLLABORATION TO, TO MITIGATE COSTS DOWN, DOWN THE LINE? WE HAD A MEETING WITH A PROJECT EXECUTION TEAM.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS TO HIRE GC GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO HIRES A CHASE STRUCTURE COMPANY THAT CAN INSTALL THE CHASE STRUCTURE OR THEY CAN ALSO HIRE PLAY EQUIPMENT REPAIR COMPANIES.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THERE IS ASSOCIATED OVERHEAD COST.
SO WE MADE A DECISION THAT IT'S EASIER TO AWARD ONE CONTRACT AND BUNDLE ALL THESE SEVEN CONTRACTS INTO ONE COMPANY WHO ARE SPECIALIZING IN JUST INSTALLING THE SHE STRUCTURE.
THAT WAY WE SAVE A LOT OF OVERHEAD COST AND HOPEFULLY, YEAH, PRICE WILL BE MUCH LOWER WHEN WE ACTUALLY EXECUTE THE PROJECT.
SO THAT IS A COST SAVING AND STRATEGY WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE, THERE'S A FEW THINGS HAPPENING HERE.
NUMBER ONE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES LEFT AND WE STILL HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS AFTER THIS.
UM, MS. NOLAN, YOU, YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUSH THE IT REPORT YOU GUYS RECEIVED.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU NOTICE, YOU GUYS, UH, ITEM 12, YOU RECEIVED THE IT REPORT.
IT'S INFORMATION ONLY, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE COMMENTS, PLEASE SEND THEM TO STAFF AND WE CAN SHARE THOSE BACK WITH YOU.
UH, SO WHEN YOU DO MAKE THE PRESENTATION, UM, NEXT TIME, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR OR NEXT ACADEMIC YEAR, UM, SO WITH THAT ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, UM, EXCUSE ME, ON THE SHADE STRUCTURES, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE.
NOW WE, WE JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND WE CAN DO A, A VOTE BY AFFIRMATION.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A MEMBER OFF.
UM, I MOVE, WE APPROVE THIS ITEM MOVE IS BY CAMPBELL SECOND SULLIVAN.
SULLIVAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IS THERE ANY OBJECT OBJECTIONS NOT HEARING ANY? IT, IT, UH, PASSES, UH, MR. PULP JOY? UM, YEAH, IF I COULD CLARIFY BUCKMAN CHAIR HAM.
SO BY A, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, EVERYBODY PRESENT IS RECORDED AS A YES VOTE.
IF YOU WANT TO RECORD A NO VOTE, VOICE AN OBJECTION AND IT'LL BE RECORDED OR AN ABSTENTION.
SO, UH, THERE ARE 10 MEMBERS PRESENT.
THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED BY 10 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
[10. Six Projects to Provide Critical Replacements and Upgrades of School Building/Site Systems and Components and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein ]
NUMBER 10 IS OUR SIX CRITICAL REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.AS YOU CONSENT, MR. CHO, WE'RE GONNA WORK IN AN EFFICIENT FASHION.
SO THESE SIX CRITICAL REPLACEMENTS AND UPGRADE GREAT.
TWO MAJOR CATEGORIES IN THIS PROGRAM IS ROOFING AND HVAC.
AND THOSE ARE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY FOR SEVEN PROJECTS.
WE HAVE SLIDE FOUR EACH PROJECTS.
FIRST ONE IS WITH MON UCLA COMMUNITIES, SCHOOL SCRAPES SIX TO 12.
UH, SCHOOL OPENED IN 1926 AND WE ARE REPLACING THE ROOFING ENTIRELY FOR 12 BUILDINGS, THREE RCS AND ONE LUNCH PAVILION.
JUST LIKE OTHER ROOFING PROJECTS, WE ALSO REPLACE ROOFING COMPONENTS AS WELL FOR THE WATERPROOFING PURPOSE.
SCHOOL HAS 51 CLASSROOMS AND OFFICES AND OUT OF 51 46 ARE HEAVILY USED.
AND THREE ROOMS ARE USED BY REGIONS.
UH, PARENT EDUCATION CENTER AND TWO ROOMS ARE UNUSED.
THOSE ARE SET ASIDE FOR THE SWING SPACE.
THIS IS NOT A DSA PROJECT, NO DESIGN REQUIRED.
SO TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $5.27 MILLION.
THEN WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTIONS IN QUARTER FOUR OF 2026, NO MONEY.
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, I KNOW ISAM MENTIONED ABOUT THIS SEISMIC PROJECT, BUT THIS BUILDING IS NOT PART OF THEIR, UH, SEISMIC PROGRAM.
THIS IS TO REPLACE EXISTING 35 TON AIR COOL CHILLER SUPPORTING ASSEMBLY BUILDING AND THE ASSEMBLY BUILDING HAS THE AUDITORIUM, CAFETERIA AND KITCHEN.
THE AGE OF THIS CHILLER IS 32 YEARS OLD.
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AS PART OF THE HVAC PROJECT, WE ARE ALSO OPERATING THE EMS ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS WELL.PORTAL PROJECT BUDGET IS $1.3 MILLION, QUARTER 1 20 27 START AND QUARTER 2 20 27 COMPLETION.
NO DESIGN, NO DSA PALM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THIS IS VERY INTERESTING PROJECT.
I AM DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS NOT JUST TREK REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
THIS IS A LANDSCAPE IMPROVING PROJECT SCHOOL IS BUILT IN 1949 AND THEY HAVE THIS LOCATION.
THIS PLAY FIELD HAS A CONSTANT PROBLEM WITH THE GRADING, DRAINAGE AND EROSION ISSUES.
THE RUNNING TRACK IS DG AS YOU CAN SEE PART OF IT.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS THE DIRT AND DG IS WASHED OUT FROM THIS LOCATION AND IT GOES INTO THE STORM DRAIN NEXT TO THE CHARNOCK ROAD.
IT ALSO GOES OVER TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HOUSING.
SO EVERY TIME WE DO THAT, WE GET THE CITATION.
AND AS YOU KNOW, CITATION FOR THE STORM DRAIN IS REALLY, REALLY SIGN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY SERIOUS CITATIONS.
NOT ONLY THAT, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, IT CAUSES THE FLOOD SO THAT, UH, SEVERAL DAYS WATER STAYS THERE AND THEY CANNOT PERFORM, UH, PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES.
SO OUR JOB IS TO REDESIGN THE AREA TO PROPERLY SUPPORT THEIR PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, THEN ELIMINATE, ELIMINATE ALL THE ISSUES AND PROVIDE MORE GREENING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
IT REQUIRES DESIGN AND IT IS PART OF THE TSA PROJECT CARPENTER COMMUNITY CHARTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, THIS ROOFTOP UNITS, WE HAVE 10 ROOFTOP UNITS.
GAS FIRED, GAS FIRED HVAC SYSTEM, AND THOSE ARE 37 YEARS OLD EVERY TIME IT BREAKS DOWN.
THEN THIS, UH, MAIN BUILDING, WHICH HOUSES SEVEN CLASSROOMS AND ONE LIBRARY AND ONE ADMIN OFFICES IS NOT GETTING HVAC.
SO WE ARE REPLACING THIS OLD ANTIQUE HVAC SYSTEMS WITH A NEW HIGH EFFICIENCY ELECTRIC HEAT PUMP.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $2.85 MILLION.
WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTION IN QUARTER FOUR OF 2026.
MR. CHO, IF I CAN, SORRY, WE'VE, WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME.
I THINK WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE PROJECTS.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, YOU KNOW THAT, BUT WE STILL GOT YOUR OTHER ONE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, CAN WE MOTION A MOTION BY BELL? SECONDED? SECOND BY SULLIVAN.
AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER OBJECTIONS, NONE.
DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOOD? NO OBJECTIONS, NO OBJECTION MEANS EVERYBODY HERE VOTED IN FAVOR.
WHAT DO YOU VOTED IN FAVOR? I JUST NEED TO ADD, I JUST NEED TO ADD THAT PART.
ROLLS IS OUT OF THE OFFICE, OUT OF THE OFFICE, OUT OF THE, UH, BOARD ROOM RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.
WE'LL ASK HER IF SHE WANTS TO RECORD A POSITIVE VOTE WHEN SHE GETS BACK.
THE LAST ITEM WE'RE GONNA HEAR TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER 11.
AND THIS IS, THE TITLE IS 21 BOARD AND DISTRICT REGIONAL PRIORITY PROJECTS.
YOU HAVE SEEN ALL THESE EXAMPLES THAT, UH, OF THIS PROJECTS BEFORE.
UH, WE PREPARE FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12, BERNSTEIN HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS TO INSTALL SCHOOL BOARD IN THE COMPETITION, SOCCER, GYM, SOCCER FIELD.
THEN SECOND ITEM IS NUMBER 16, SAN FERNANDO ACADEMY.
THIS IS TO INSTALL HVAC IN THE BOYS PHYSICAL BUILDING BEING THESE PROJECTS, UH, THE BOARD AND REGIONAL PROJECTS.
LET ME ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE.
MS. YEAH, I WOULD JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I, I KNOW THAT THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT MR. PANSKY WOULD WANNA INQUIRE ABOUT.
UM, BEING THAT THIS IS, UM, A, A
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SCOREBOARD, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO SEE IF IT COULD BE SPONSORED OR, I DON'T KNOW IF THE DISTRICT HAS ANY SORT OF PARAMETERS ON, UM, ENTERING INTO AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT.UM, BUT I KNOW WITH ENGAGING WITH LOCAL, UH, BUSINESSES IS SOMETHING THAT HE HAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD IS A POTENTIAL OR IF IT WAS UM, CONSIDERED THERE'S USUALLY DOUBLE.
WHEN WE HAD LAST TIME, BIG DONATION, THEY WANTED SOMETHING BACK.
SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT LEGALLY.
AND THIS IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION, SOCCER FIELD AND BOARD MEMBER DECIDED, HEY, I WANT TO FUND THIS TO HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD.
WHEN YOU HAVE A VISITOR PLAYING IT, WE NEED TO HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROJECT GOING AFTER A ANOTHER DONATED DONATION PROGRAM.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
USUALLY DISTRICT HAS TO GIVE UP SOMETHING ELSE.
IS THERE A MOTION? ALL MOTION? MOTION.
IS THERE SECOND BY KAISER? MOTION BY SULLIVAN.
THAT, UH, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.
I, I, FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE 10 MEMBERS PRESENT.
IT'S UH, 10 ME, 10 MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
THE MOTION PASSES AND ALSO PUT ON THE, FOR THE MINUTES THAT UH, DR.
RAS WOULD LIKE TO RECORD A VOTE ON THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10.
UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT, UH, ACADEMIC YEAR IN LATE AUGUST.
AND WITH THAT, THE WE ARE ADJOURNED.