Dec 16, 2025 Annual Meeting

MS. ORTIZ FRANKLIN PRESENT.

PRESENT.

MR. SEN PRESENT? MR. HERE.

MS. GRIEGO? HERE.

MS. EZ.

HERE.

AND THAT WAS A HEAR FOR MS. GRIEGO.

I HEARD YOU AND MS. ORTIZ FRANKLIN IS HERE.

WE'LL NOW STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, THAT SHALL BE BROUGHT TO US BY BEAUTIFUL SCHOLARS FROM DISTRICT 3, 2, 3.

NAME, PLAY, FLAG, AND PUT YOUR YOUR, LET'S BE GOOD I AND LIBERTY.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IT MANY TIMES.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S DONE.

UM, SO TODAY I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE ANNUAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

UNTIL A BOARD PRESIDENT IS SELECTED TODAY.

AS REQUIRED BY RULE AND LAW, I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE OF PRESIDING OVER THIS MEETING.

UH, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS A SELECTION OF THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO SERVE UNTIL THE NEXT ANNUAL MEETING, WHICH SHALL TAKE PLACE, UH, IN DECEMBER OF 2026.

BEFORE I START, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW, UH, THE PROCESS.

A PROCESS THAT IS NOT REQUIRED BY LAW, BUT IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AS TRADITION IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BOARD WILL ONE, THE BOARD WILL SELECT A PRESIDENT FOR THE YEAR BEGINNING DECEMBER, 2025.

I WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS AND CONDUCT THE ELECTION ON EACH NAME SUBMITTED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY ARE RECEIVED.

I'M GOING TO CALL ON INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS TO NOMINATE IN RANDOM ORDER.

THAT RANDOM ORDER IS DETERMINED BY A SHUFFLING OF CARDS, VERY SOPHISTICATED PROCESS, SHUFFLING A CARDS BY OUR BOARD ATTORNEY, MS. DEVAR NAVERO REED.

UH, EACH CARD HAS A BOARD MEMBER'S NAME.

UH, SHE WILL SHUFFLE THE CARDS AND THEN TURN THE CARDS OVER.

THAT WILL DETERMINE THE NAME OF NOMINATION FOR THE POSITION OF PRESIDENT.

UM, THE VOTE THEN WHEN NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE A SECOND, AS WILL THE NOMINATION OF EACH, UH, BOARD MEMBER CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENCY.

UH, WHEN THE PROCESS IS CLOSED, THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE ELECTION OF THE BOARD PRESIDENT.

ONCE ONE INDIVIDUAL REACHES A TOTAL OF FOUR VOTES, THAT PERSON IS ELECTED AS PRESIDENT AND I CAN RETIRE FROM THE PRESIDENCY.

GOTTA HAVE FUN WITH THIS .

SO, WITH THAT SAID, UH, MS. UH, DEVORA

[I. Election of Board President]

NARA REED, PLEASE SHUFFLE THE CARDS AND RECITE FOR THE RECORD THE NOMINATING ENTITIES.

THE CARDS HAVE BEEN SHUFFLED.

FIRST IS CARLA GRIEGO.

MS. CGO, DO YOU WISH TO ENTER A NOMINATION? WE ESTABLISH AN ORDER FIRST.

THAT'S FINE.

I'LL READ THROUGH THE LIST, PRESIDENT, BUT GO AHEAD AND OVERRULE ME.

OH, WE CAN DO IT.

WE WANT.

THAT'S OKAY.

SECOND NAME DR. RIVAS.

A THIRD IS MS. ORTI FRANKLIN.

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AND LASTLY, MR. SCHROEN.

ALL RIGHT.

WE SHALL NOW ENTERTAIN, UH, THE, UH, NOMINATIONS.

AND AGAIN, AFTER EACH NOMINATION, A SECOND IS REQUIRED.

BOARD MEMBER GRIEGO.

I NOMINATE SCOTT MURSEN.

SECOND.

I ALSO NOMINATE, UH, MR. SCHROEN.

I'LL, I'LL NOTE THAT WE DON'T NEED A SECOND NOW THAT HE'S BEEN ALREADY SECOND.

YEAH.

SO IF, IF YOU INTEND TO NOMINATE, UH, MR. SCHROEN, HE'S GOOD TO GO.

BOARD MEMBER ATIS FRANKLIN.

BOARD MEMBER NEW BILL SCOTT SEREN.

BOARD MEMBER EZ.

I THINK TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T NEED TO BE NOMINATED MORE THAN ONCE, BUT SURE.

I'LL ALSO NOMINATE SCOTT , BOARD MEMBER.

MELVIN.

I'LL PASS BOARD MEMBER MOLSEN.

I NOMINATE SCOTCH MURSON.

UH, I NOW MOVE TO CLOSE, UH, DENOMINATIONS.

AND THAT REQUIRES A SECOND.

A SECOND.

DOES THAT REQUIRE A VOTE? NO.

ALRIGHT.

WE'RE NOW THEN, UH, READY TO VOTE.

NOW THAT THE NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN, UH, CLOSED, THERE'S ONLY ONE NOMINEE AND THAT IS SCOTT SCHON.

WE WILL BEGIN THE VOTE, UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, OF THE DAYS WITH THE BOARD MEMBER.

BOARD MEMBER GGO? YES.

BOARD MEMBER EZ? YES.

AND BOARD MEMBER ORTIZ FRANKLIN? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

IT HAS BEEN DECIDED BY VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO THAT MR. SCOTT SCH MURSEN HAS BEEN ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OF LOS ANGELES UNIFIED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS MEETING IS CONVENED AGAIN IN DECEMBER, 2026.

CONGRATULATIONS.

I NOW HAVE THE HONOR OF PASSING THE BUCK BACK TO THE ELANTE.

MR. SCHON.

RULES CALL FOR THE ELECTION OF A VICE PRESIDENT WHO WILL CHAIR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND WE WILL FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS FOR THE ELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, OUR

[II. Election of the Vice President (who will serve the role of Committee of the Whole Chair)]

AND I'M GOING TO CALL AGAIN UPON THIS NAVARRA REED TO RESHUFFLE HER CARDS AND TURN 'EM OVER AND READ THE NAMES IN ORDER.

I WILL THEN CALL ON THE FIRST BOARD MEMBER ON THE LIST FOR NOMINATION.

AFTER THE BOARD MEMBER SPEAKS, THE NEXT BOARD MEMBER ON THE LIST WILL BE OFFERED THE FLOOR.

AFTER EACH NOMINATION IS MADE, IT WILL REQUIRE A SECOND.

THIS CAN BE DONE BY ANY MEMBER WITHOUT REGARD TO THE ORDER.

ALSO, THE NOMINEE CAN DECLINE THE NOMINATION.

WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE NAMES SUBMITTED FOR NOMINATION, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS, WHICH IS THEN SECONDED AND VOTED ON.

THE BOARD WILL THEN VOTE ON EACH NOMINEE NOMINEE INDIVIDUALLY AND THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE NOMINATED.

A ROLL CALL WILL TAKE PLACE WITH A YES OR NO VOTE ON THE SINGLE NAME.

IF THERE ARE NOT FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES, THE BOARD WILL THEN TAKE UP THE SECOND NAME NOMINATED AND WE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL A NOMINEE GETS FOUR VOTES.

IF THE LIST IS EXHAUSTED, WE WILL REOPEN THE NOMINATIONS IN THE SAME ORDER THAT WAS INITIALLY USED.

SO WE'RE READY FOR A MS. REED PARTS SEVEN SHUFFLED.

FIRST NAME MS. ORTIZ FRANKLIN.

MR. SCHMERIN, MR. MELVOIN, MS. REGO, DR. RIVAS, MS. NEWVILLE AND MS. EZ.

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GO AHEAD.

UH, MS. ORTIZ FRANKLIN, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DR. RIVAS.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I'LL CALL ON MYSELF.

I NOMINATE DR. RIVAS.

MR. MELVOIN, I WILL PASS MS. RIEGEL.

I ALSO NOMINATE DR. RIVAS.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF.

THANK YOU, MS. NEWVILLE.

I ALSO NOMINATE DR.

REVA.

MS. EZ.

I'LL ALSO NOMINATE DR.

REVA.

SO THE, THAT LIST IS NOW CLOSED.

WE HAVE ONE NOMINEE, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S GET TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'LL CALL ON THE FOLKS WHO ARE IN PERSON FIRST AND THEN THE FOLKS WHO ARE REMOTE.

UH, TINO LOPEZ.

ARE YOU HERE? ANNA CHAVEZ.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK ONCE YOU BEGIN.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS LINDSAY BOYD, AND I'M A MEMBER OF SCHOOLS BEYOND SCREENS AND A PARENT OF A FIFTH GRADER AT IVANHOE ELEMENTARY.

OVER THE PAST MONTH, I ATTENDED THREE ZOOM SESSIONS ORGANIZED BY THIS DISTRICT DISTRICT TO DISCUSS TECHNOLOGY POLICY.

MANY QUESTIONS WERE RAISED, BUT PARENTS WERE PROVIDED FEW ANSWERS AND GIVEN FEW ASSURANCES THAT OUR QUESTIONS WOULD MAKE IT TO YOU, THE BOARD.

SO I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME OF THEM DIRECTLY.

WHY IS THE DISTRICT SO QUICK TO ADOPT UNTESTED AND DANGEROUS AI PROGRAMS? WHY IS SIXTH GRADE THE YEAR THAT YOU'VE DECIDED STUDENTS NEED GOOGLE GEMINI? IS THERE A STUDY THAT SAYS THAT 11 YEAR OLDS IS A DEVELOPMENTAL AGE WHERE THEY CAN DECIPHER AI HALLUCINATIONS OR CHATBOT ANCY ? AND WHAT IS THE PRECISE EDUCATIONAL PROBLEM THAT THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS ARE TRYING TO SOLVE ANYWAY? WHAT SAFEGUARDS HAS THE DISTRICT PUT IN PLACE TO GUARANTEE THAT THE HARMS FROM AI WILL NOT OCCUR ON DISTRICT DEVICES? AND ON THE TOPIC OF SCHOOL-ISH DEVICES, WHY DOES NECESSARY ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY TRANSLATE TO EVERY SINGLE THING TAKING PLACE ON A SCREEN WHEN TOURING FOR SPECTIVE MIDDLE SCHOOLS? FOR MY FIFTH GRADER, I SAW SCHOOLS THAT HAD MOVED EVERYTHING ONTO THE SCREEN OF A CHROMEBOOK.

GONE WERE PHYSICAL TEXTBOOKS, NO PENCILS AND SCRATCH PAPER.

FOR MATH, MANY SCHOOLS DEVOTE ENTIRE DAYS TO I-READY.

NOVELS HAD DISAPPEARED IN FAVOR OF SHORT TEXTS, CAN BE DIGESTED ON A SCREEN AND TESTED VIA A DIGITAL PLATFORM.

I WAS TOLD REPEATEDLY, WE DON'T REALLY TEACH WHOLE BOOKS ANYMORE.

AND MOREOVER, MANY STUDENTS CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO THE AUDIO VERSIONS OF THE ASSIGNED TEXT.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT ANY OF THIS IS WORKING? I AM NOT A REBELLIOUS PERSON BY NATURE.

WHEN I WAS A STUDENT IN THIS DISTRICT, SOME HAVE MAYBE EVEN CHARACTERIZED ME AS A GOODIE TWO SHOES.

BUT UNTIL I GET SOME ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, I'M ADVISING MY 10-YEAR-OLD WITH A RADICAL PARENTAL MANDATE.

READ BOOKS AND DO NOT TALK TO CHATBOTS, EVEN IF THAT MEANS NOT DOING WHAT YOUR TEACHERS ARE TELLING YOU TO DO.

BECAUSE KIPP HAS LOST SIGHT OF THOSE GOALS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, REBECCA FRENCH, UH, MAYA FIELDS, DEREK RICE, UH, ANGELICA, OR ANGELICA? I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REMOTELY.

UH, FORTINO LOPEZ.

I SEE YOU'RE ONLINE FORTINO.

PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK ONCE YOU BEGIN.

FORTINO LOPEZ ARE LINE WITH US.

GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.

I AM A THIRD GENERATION MINORITY FROM EAST LA WITH DEEP FAMILY ROOTS IN EDUCATION.

ALTHOUGH YOU CANNOT SEE ME, I'M RAISING MY RIGHT HAND WEARING MY FATHER'S C RING STARFIELD, 1950.

SOME OF YOU KNOW JAIME ESCALANTE STORY WHERE LATINO STUDENTS WERE ACCUSED OF CHEATING ON THE AP CALCULUS EXAM.

MY COUSIN WAS IN HIS CLASS, AND AFTER A RETAKE WITH , SHE AND HER CLASSMATES WERE INDICATED.

I MYSELF DEDICATED 10 YEARS TO TEACHING ELEMENTARY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AS A PARENT OF EIGHT YEARS IN THE KIPP CHARTER SYSTEM.

MY MESSAGE IS SIMPLE.

WE MUST KEEP INSTILLING HIGH EXPECTATIONS, NOT ONLY IN OUR CHILDREN, BUT IN EACH OTHER AND IN OUR SCHOOLS.

I MENTIONED THIS NOW AHEAD OF CHARTER RENEWALS

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WHILE VOLUNTEERING AT KIPP LUMINAR, I COLLABORATED WITH SCHOOL LEADER MR. HERNANDEZ AND COMMUNITY MANAGER, MR. DOMINGUEZ AT VARIOUS EVENTS.

DURING THESE INTERACTIONS, I WITNESSED AND EXPERIENCED HARASSMENT BY THESE INDIVIDUALS, CREATING A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT FOR PARENTS AND STAFF.

ALTHOUGH I RAISED MY CONCERNS AFTER A BRIEF INVESTIGATION, KIPP CAL FOUND NO EVIDENCE.

JUST DAYS AGO, I OFFERED TO DONATE TOYS TO EVERY STUDENT IN MY SON'S CLASS, BUT RECEIVED NO ACCOMMODATION WHEN VOICING MY DISCOMFORT OF WALKING ON CAMPUS.

AND SO A MORE THOROUGH INVESTIGATION PLUS ADDED OVERSIGHT WOULD HELP STRENGTHEN TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN KIPP AND THE EAST LA COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS FORTINO LOPEZ, FATHER OF FOURTH GENERATION CHICANO.

SAM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.

UH, ISABEL GONZALEZ, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK ONCE YOU BEGIN ISABEL GONZALEZ AS PUBLIC SERVANTS, WE GET YOU THESE TRANSLATION HEADSETS.

ASSESS BRAVO AS PUBLIC SERVANTS OF THE SECOND LARGEST DISTRICT IN THE NATION.

IT IS REALLY GOOD AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT YOU ALL AGREE TO VOTE AND NOMINATE AMONGST YOURSELVES.

AND YOU ALL SUPPORT THE SAME PERSON.

YOU THINK THAT WE LIVE IN LIES OR WITHIN LIES? NO, SIR.

THIS IS WHY WE NEED PUBLIC SERVANTS.

JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOT TO BE IN A TO BE TO AGREE WITH EACH OTHER AND LISTEN TO THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT ARE BOTHERING OUR STUDENTS COMMUNITY AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL.

DURING THIS WEEK, MS. CREGO VISIT MY SCHOOL, BUT SHE BRINGS WITH HER AN AGENDA TO NOT LISTEN TO PARENTS, TO NOT LISTEN TO STUDENTS AND NOT LISTEN TO SCHOOL PERSONNEL.

SHE COMES AND IMPOSES A, AN AGENDA THAT'S AGAINST THE VOICE OF PARENTS, AGAINST THE VOICE OF STUDENTS AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL.

SHE SAID NOTHING.

WHEN WE ASKED FOR SCHOOL SECURITY FOR SCHOOL POLICE WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS, SHE DID NOT LISTEN.

SHE STOOD FROM HER CHAIR.

SHE LEFT AND SHE LEFT A MOTHER WITH THE WORDS IN HER MOUTH.

WHEN THIS MOTHER ASKED HER AND SAID, WE DON'T WANT LGBTQ PLUS AGENDAS IN OUR SCHOOL FOR OUR CHILDREN, THE ONLY THING WE HEARD FROM THAT LADIES WAS NAGS, NAGS AND NAGS SAYING THAT WE WON'T BE RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDS MORE THAN SO THEY WANNA ASK FOR MONEY.

WHEN YOU DON'T LISTEN TO THE FEDERAL MANDATE, YOU NEED TO REMOVE THE L-G-B-T-Q AGENDA IN THE SCHOOLS.

HOW DO YOU THINK, HOW, HOW ARE YOU ASKING IT WHEN YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO PARENTS OR STUDENTS? YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO SCHOOL PERSONNEL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THE NEXT CALLER IS JOHN TODD BROSKI.

YOU'RE LISTED AS CALLING IN.

ARE YOU IN THE ROOM? YOU'RE NOT IN LINE WITH US RIGHT NOW.

AND KYLE KURTZ, ALSO NOT ONLINE.

THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT.

AND NOW WE TAKE THE VOTE ON THE VICE PRESIDENT.

I'M GONNA CALL THE ROLE.

I'LL CALL THE ROLE.

UH, MS. NEW BILL? YES.

A'S FOR DR. RIVAS AS VICE PRESIDENT, CONGRATULATIONS.

WE ARE GOING TO CHECK ON THE

OH, OKAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE CHAIRS, WHICH IS GOOD.

SO I'M GONNA STAY RIGHT HERE WHERE I AM.

NORMALLY THE PRESIDENT HAS TO MOVE TO THE CENTER CHAIR.

UH, RIGHT NOW

[III. Establishment of Board Committees]

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ESTABLISHMENT OF BOARD COMMITTEES.

AND I LIKE TO ASK EACH BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS A COMMITTEE OR COMMITTEES, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEIR SAME COMMITTEES.

SO LET ME START WITH YOU, MS. ORTIZ.

FRANKLIN, WE'D LOVE TO THE SAFETY AND CLIMATE COMMITTEE.

SAFETY AND CLIMATE COMMITTEE.

I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE WITH THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN EARLY EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

CHILDREN AND FAMILY IN EARLY EDUCATION.

SPECIAL ED CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION.

MS. EZ.

MS. GRIEGO? YES.

SPECIAL EDUCATION AND CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION.

EXCELLENT.

MR. MELVOIN? YES.

THE FACILITIES AND PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE.

FACILITIES AND PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE.

MS. DR. RIVAS? YES.

CONTINUE WITH CHARTER SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE GREENING SCHOOLS AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE COMMITTEE, CHARTER COMMITTEE AND GREENING SCHOOLS.

EXCELLENT.

AND MS. NEWBELL? I WILL STILL BE A PART OF SAFETY AND FACILITIES AND CHARTER AND GREEN AND CURRICULUM IN GREEN.

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, THE

[IV. Selection of Board Member Representative to the Los Angeles County School Trustees Association]

SELECTION OF THE BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LA COUNTY SCHOOL TRUSTEES ASSOCIATION.

AND I BELIEVE I AM THE, UM, BOARD MEMBER.

I WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ON, UH, THE LA SCHOOL TRUSTEES ASSOCIATION.

OTHERWISE, I WILL CONTINUE.

SELECTION OF THE BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE IN THE ELECTING MEMBERS TO THE COUNTY COMMITTEE ON DISTRICT ORGANIZATION.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS WE CAN SKIP A ROLL CALL.

[V. Selection of Board Member Representative to Vote in Electing Members to the County Committee on District Organization (Education Code 35023)]

AND I AM THE BOARD MEMBER WHO IS IN PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE.

AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

I'M, I'M JUST GONNA POP.

AND THESE TWO ARE THE FIRST, THE, THE LA COUNTY SCHOOL TRUSTEES ASSOCIATION.

AND THIS POSITION, THE COUNTY COMMITTEE ON DISTRICT ORGANIZATION, THEY'RE LINKED.

SO THEY, THEY'RE CONDUCTED AT THE SAME TIME, BUT REQUIRE US TO PROACTIVELY CHOOSE THEM SEPARATELY.

SO I AM THE PERSON.

HAVE, UH, THE BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TO THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION.

[VI. Appointment of Board Representative to the Council of Great City Schools]

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU, MS. EZ.

IS THAT, SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE? OH, YES.

THAT'S ME.

I, I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE, BUT ALSO IF SOMEONE ELSE IS INTERESTED, THAT'S OKAY TOO.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T WANT YOU TO CONTINUE.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS DONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY.

UH, THEN ADJOURN, ADJOURNING.

I MOVE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

ANY OBJECTIONS TO ADJOURNMENT? OKAY.

OUTSTANDING.

THE TIME IS NOW 10 41.

THE ANNUAL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

WE'RE GONNA COME BACK VERY QUICKLY IN THE NEXT TWO, THREE MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING THAT WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON TODAY.