YOU NEVER MAKE IT. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING FOLKS, AT 6:00. [00:00:05] WE'LL THEREFORE OPEN THE AUGUST 26TH MEETING OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. WE HAVE A VOTING QUORUM. ONE CHANGE IN THE AGENDA. THE CLOSED SESSION WILL BE MOVED TO THE END OF THE MEETING. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT OUT THERE AN HOUR WHILE WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION. FIRST OF ALL, LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. OKAY. WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FROM OUT THERE TO LEAD US IN AN INVOCATION. HEY, I'D LOVE TO. MAY I?. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD. YOU TWO GUYS WANT TO DRAW STRAWS OR. TWO. THREE. NO. THANK YOU. I'LL DO IT. I'LL DO IT. LET'S GO AHEAD. NOW LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR LOVE AND YOUR GUIDANCE. SO WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR JESUS CHRIST, YOUR SON THAT DIED FOR OUR SINS. SO AS WE BELIEVE IN HIM, WE WILL HAVE LIFE EVERLASTING. WE ASK YOUR WISDOM HERE TONIGHT FOR ALL THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBERS AND ALL THE ONES THAT MIGHT SPEAK BEFORE THEM TONIGHT. ASK YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE SO THAT WE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IN HIS NAME FOR US. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU SIR. I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE ANYWAY. [1. Proclamation – Constitution Week] ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT IS THE PROCLAMATION. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. AND THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE. OH, YOU'RE HERE. COME ON UP. COME ON UP FRONT. IN FRONT OF THE FLAG. IT'S THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO IT RIGHT HERE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK. I GET GREAT PLEASURE IN LEADING THE, READING THIS EVERY YEAR. WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025 MARKS THE 238TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DRAFTING OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO ACCORD OFFICIAL RECOGNITION TO THIS MAGNIFICENT DOCUMENT AND ITS MEMORIAL ANNIVERSARY, AND TO THE PATRIOTIC CELEBRATION WHICH WILL BE WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC LAW 915 GUARANTEES THE ISSUING OF THE PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK. THERE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ALAN W EDWARDS, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THIS WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH TO THE 23RD AS PROCLAMATION WE AND ASK OUR CITIZENS TO REAFFIRM THE IDEAS THAT THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION HAD IN 1887 BY VIGILANTLY PROTECTING THE FREEDOM GUARANTEED TO US THROUGH THIS GUARDIAN OF OUR LIBERTIES. REMEMBERING THAT LOST RIGHTS MAY NEVER BE REGAINED. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, LOST RIGHTS MAY NEVER BE REGAINED. IN WITNESS THEREOF, I THEREFORE SET MY HAND AND CAUSE TO BE FIXED THE GREAT SEAL OF SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY ON THIS DAY OF 26TH OF AUGUST, 2025, AND THE GREAT PLEASURE I PRESENT THIS TO YOU, AS WE DO EVERY YEAR, AND WE APPRECIATE IT. AND I SAY, JUST A LITTLE CLOSING REMARK. THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT PERFECT, BUT IT SURE AHEAD OF ANYTHING ELSE LIKE IT ON THIS PLANET. [2. Citizens Comment Period] OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD. THIS WAS STARTED IN 2013, NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANY COUNTY ISSUES, COME TO THE FRONT, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT UNDER FIVE MINUTES, BUT IF WE LIKE WHAT YOU SAY, WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK LONGER. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL THEREFORE OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT. PERIOD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN AND LADIES. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS IRVIN SUMLIN-JONES AND I RESIDE AT 33306 JONES BRIDGE ROAD, FRANKLIN, VIRGINIA. I AM HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK YOU ALL TO TAKE AN ADVENTURE ON AN INNOVATIVE OPPORTUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE. WELL WHEN I LOOK AROUND, CHRIS, YOU ARE THE YOUNGEST THING ON THE BOARD. I MEAN, NO OFFENSE TO THE WISDOM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BE IN PARTNERSHIP THIS YEAR WITH THE 10TH, [00:05:03] 11TH AND 12TH GRADERS AND ALSO WITH THE COLLEGE STUDENTS TO FORM A MENTORSHIP SO THAT WE CAN BRING THEM IN. AND YOU ALL GET TO TEACH THEM EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND SO HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME THEY GRADUATE, THEY WILL HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? GOT LOTS OF TIME. ALL RIGHT. LAST CALL. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [3. Meeting Minutes] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING DOWN TO THE MEETING MINUTES. JULY 2ND, 2025 WORK SESSION. NEED A MOTION TO OR ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES? MOTION TO ACCEPT. SO, MOVED. A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. WE MOVE NOW TO THE JULY 22ND, 2025 REGULAR SESSION. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES? MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT, A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED TO A RECORD. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 5, VDOT MATTERS. [4. VDOT Matters] DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY VDOT MATTERS IN THEIR DISTRICTS OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER? I DO. FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA LINE TO MONROE ROAD. TWO PEOPLE HAVE GONE IN THE DITCH IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. I TRACKED ALL THIS LINE ON ITS SIDE. THE ROAD IS TOO NARROW. THE DITCH IS TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD. I GOT ONE. YES, SIR. ROSE VALLEY ROAD, WHERE YOU TURN OFF FOR 671, LIKE YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS ENVIVA. THERE'S ALL THE DITCHES THROUGH THAT NEED TO BE CUT. IT'S A LOT TALLER THAN MOST EVERYWHERE ELSE. THE GRASS NEEDS TO BE CUT THROUGH THERE. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY CONSTITUENT. WELL, I'LL PASS THOSE ALONG TO GEORGE BOWMAN WITH VDOT, BUT I DID NOTICE WE WERE OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY AND NOTICED THE SAME THING. ROBERT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? [5. Monthly Reports] ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER 6 AT THE MONTHLY REPORTS. MR. THROWER? YES. HONORABLE BOARD MEMBERS. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON HERE AT THE COUNTY. JUST A FEW QUICK UPDATES ON THINGS. WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO CLOSE OUT OUR NEWSOME CDBG PROJECT. THE ONLY THING WE'RE WORKING ON AT THIS POINT IS STILL THE DRAINAGE PORTION THAT KCH CONTRACTING IS ATTEMPTING TO COMPLETE, AND WE'RE HOPING THEY COMPLETE IT SOMETIME VERY, VERY SOON. RADIO PROJECT. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT WITH THE CITY OF FRANKLIN. WE DO HOLD MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH JVC KENWOOD, THE CITY OF FRANKLIN AND STAFF, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL NEW SITE AT THE BERLIN REFUGE SITE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT AND MORE INFORMATION WILL COME IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON THAT. HUMAN RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL. WE DID ADD A NEW EMPLOYEE EMPLOY TO THE COUNTY TEAM THIS PAST MONTH. JAMIE WRIGHT. HE STARTED AS A PUBLIC SERVICE WORKER III WITH THE COUNTY ON JULY 28TH. SO WE WELCOME HIM ON BOARD. SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. DID SEND OUT A RFP FOR OUR COMP AND CLASS STUDY. PROPOSALS WERE DUE BY AUGUST 18TH. WE WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE PROPOSALS AND SETTING UP INTERVIEWS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. REFUSE COLLECTION SITES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH PAVING SEVERAL OF THOSE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES ANY TIME NOW WITH BELCHER PAVING. WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE FLAGGY RUN TO CORTLAND AND DREWRYVILLE SITES. AND THEN MOVE FORWARD AFTER THAT ON THE OTHERS. WE'RE ALSO GETTING SOME ESTIMATES ON IMPROVING THE SHELTER ATTENDANCE SITES. THAT NEED TO, SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE ON THOSE SHELTERS. MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK ON OUR BEALE FARM/VEDP GRANT. THAT WAS A GRANT THROUGH THE VIRGINIA BUSINESS READY SITES GRANT PROGRAM. TIMMONS GROUP SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP THAT WORK SHORTLY ON THAT PROJECT. WE DID, I DID ISSUE A RFP ON JULY 7TH FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SITE STUDY. [00:10:07] PROPOSALS WERE DUE AUGUST 8TH, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROPOSAL REVIEW AND INTERVIEW PHASE AT THIS TIME. WE ISSUED ANOTHER RFP FOR OUR COMMERCE AND LOGISTICS PARK. PROPOSALS WERE DUE AUGUST 1ST. AND AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE PROPOSAL REVIEW AND INTERVIEW PHASE AT THIS TIME. I DID ISSUE A RFP FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, BUILDING AND SECURITY ASSESSMENT FOR THIS BUILDING AND PROPOSALS WERE DUE LAST FRIDAY, AUGUST 22ND. SO WE'LL BE REVIEWING THOSE HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK. I DID PUT TOGETHER MY ICMA CREDENTIAL AND MANAGER REPORT AND SEND THAT TO ICMA TO DOCUMENT MY PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES. OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TO RETAIN MY CREDENTIAL THROUGH ICMA. I THINK I SHARED WITH YOU ALL BEFORE, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I WAS ELECTED CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE VIRGINIA RISK SHARING ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS OUR INSURANCE CARRIER AND ALSO COVERS MANY LOCALITIES IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA. ERIC AND I CONTINUE TO, CONTINUALLY WORK ON VARIOUS MATTERS DURING THE WEEK AND MONTH. AND AS I ALWAYS DO, I PUT TOGETHER SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS AND EVENTS I ATTENDED OVER THE LAST MONTH. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THROWER? WILL NOT. WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE FINANCE REPORT. MISS LOWE. YES, SIR. IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SEE JUNE 2024 COMPARED TO JUNE 2025. THAT IS THE FISCAL YEAR IN 12 MONTHS. AS OF JUNE 30TH. AND THESE NUMBERS GO THROUGH AUGUST THE 15TH. SO ALL EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN PAID IN THESE NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, AND WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE REVENUE, STATE REVENUES THAT ARE STILL COMING IN, BUT WE ARE MAKING ENTRIES FOR THOSE AS THEY COME IN. AUDITORS WERE ON SITE LAST WEDNESDAY DURING THE VRS RETIREMENT SYSTEM AUDIT, AND THEY WILL BE BACK ON SITE IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER TO DO THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT. TOTAL REVENUES. WE'VE COLLECTED 106% OF OUR FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET, AND THAT COMPARED TO JUNE OF 2024. IT WAS 100.5% AT THAT POINT. AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES, WE HAVE SPENT 91.81% OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. LAST YEAR, IT WAS AT 94.6% OF THE BUDGET. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS LOWE? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE REST OF THE LIST. ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO JUMP IN? TREASURER'S REPORT. ANIMAL CONTROL. COOPERATIVE EXTENSION. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. BLACKWATER REGIONAL LIBRARY. SOLID WASTE QUANTITIES. OKAY. MOVE ON, NUMBER 7, FINANCIAL MATTERS. [6. Financial Matters] THE BILLS LIST. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BILLS? MISS LOWE, IS READY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, NO QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE ON. B. APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION FOR THE END OF THE YEAR FOR VARIOUS FUNDS. THE FY 25 END OF YEAR RESOLUTION PROVIDES A TOTAL APPROPRIATION OF $207,803.59 FOR VARIOUS FUNDS. WE NEED A. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT, A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UNANIMOUS. AND LETTER C. THE APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION THE YEAR 25, END OF THE YEAR SCHOOL FUND. IT'S A TOTAL OF $8,338.22 TO THE SCHOOL FUND. ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION? A SECOND? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. UNANIMOUS ALSO. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 8, APPOINTMENTS. [7. Appointments] LITTER CONTROL COUNCIL. IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TWO NEW MEMBERS. [00:15:04] ONE FROM THE NORTHEAST DISTRICT AND ONE FROM THE NORTHWEST DISTRICT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS? THAT'S THE. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE MR. CORNWELL AND MR. GILLETTE. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT NEXT MONTH? I'D PROBABLY GET AROUND TO THE REST OF THE PEOPLE I HAVEN'T TALKED TO. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT NEXT MONTH. THEN BACK ON THE AGENDA. B. COMMUNITY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT TEAM. WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPOINTMENT OF AMANDA MUNFORD, DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT TEAM, CPMT. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HER. ALL RIGHT. SO SECOND TO THAT. I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. THAT GOES THROUGH TOO. THE BOARD OF BUILDING CODE APPEALS. MR. GARY BANKS DOES WISH TO BE REAPPOINTED. IS THAT A FIVE YEAR RUN? THAT'S A FIVE YEAR. FIVE YEAR TERM. I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT HIM. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. MR. BANKS IS REAPPOINTED. THE OTHER ONE IS THE BZA. BOTH MR. JAMES BRADSHAW AND DOUG CHESSON TERMS ARE EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, BUT BOTH WOULD LIKE TO BE RECONSIDERED. I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE CAN REAPPOINT BOTH OF THEM. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY TIMES THEY MEET IN THE LAST TWO YEARS? VERY RARELY. TO BZA MEET OR BUILDING CODE APPEAL BOARD. I THINK THEY MET MAYBE ONCE THAT I CAN REMEMBER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN THREE YEARS. THE BZA. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE IS STOP INCORPORATED. THAT'S THE SOCIAL SERVICES SITUATION. WE NEED TWO MEMBERS. ONE INDIVIDUAL INCLUDES THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND ONE REPRESENTING THE PRIVATE SECTOR. ANYBODY HAVE ANYBODY? ANY. ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL REQUIRE MORE THOUGHT, SO GET TO WORK IN NEXT MEETING I'LL TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY. WE NEED TWO TOTAL. CORRECT. MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH. THERE, JUST FOR CLARITY. THIS IS, THEY, THIS ORGANIZATION SERVES OUR AREA, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING ONE FROM THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH THEY SAID COULD BE A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER, A STAFF MEMBER OR SOMEBODY, A PRIVATE CITIZEN YOU CHOOSE TO REPRESENT THE BOARD. THAT'S ONE PERSON. AND ALSO ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT REPRESENTS THE PRIVATE SECTOR. PREFERABLY, I BELIEVE THEY SAID LIKE AN ATTORNEY OR BANKER OR SOMEBODY OF THAT SORT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL TRY TO FIND SOMETHING IN THE NEXT MEETING. MOVE ON TO, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. [8. Public Hearing – Comprehensive Plan Amendment – Request by East Coast Development Group] NUMBER 9 IS THE FIRST ONE. IT'S PUBLIC HEARING-COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUESTED BY EAST COAST DEVELOPMENT GROUP. AND I'LL LET MR. JAY RANDOLPH GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THAT TO THE PARTICULARS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, YOU DO HAVE TWO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED THIS EVENING. THIS FIRST IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FROM ITS CURRENT DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL TO AN AMENDED DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS CONSIDERED A MINOR AMENDMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES IN SIZE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF FLAGGY RUN ROAD, APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE WEST OF THE INTERSECTION WITH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD. THE PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION IS TO ALLOW THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, THE REZONING, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AT THEIR MEETING IN JUNE, AND THEY DID ADOPT A MOTION 5 TO 3 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. [00:20:01] AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RANDOLPH BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU. THANK YOU JAY. ALL RIGHT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS REQUESTED BY EAST COAST DEVELOPMENT GROUP. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON, APPROACH THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN DOCTOR EDWARDS AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS STEWART BARNHILL AND I RESIDE AT 167 CEDARWOOD BOULEVARD, HERTFORD, NORTH CAROLINA. I REPRESENT HASSELL & FOLKES PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION IS PRESIDENT. HASSELL & FOLKES IS LOCATED IN GREENBRIER CHESAPEAKE PORTION OF VIRGINIA. AND I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF I'M ABLE TO. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? [INAUDIBLE]. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? GOOD EVENING, MR. LEE. MY NAME IS JAMIE LEE. I LIVE AT 29206 FLAGGY RUN ROAD IN CORTLAND. AND MY SUPERVISOR IS DOCTOR EDWARDS. AND I DON'T KNOW THE PERSON APPLYING FOR THIS PERSONALLY. I'M SURE HE'S A NICE GUY, AND THERE'S NOTHING PERSONAL ABOUT HIM, BUT FLAGGY RUN ROAD IS A SMALL, NARROW ROAD WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON IT ALREADY. AND I HATE TO SEE 46 MORE HOUSES OUT THERE ON IT. AND IT'S ALREADY A LOT OF TROUBLE MOVING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD NOW. BUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE ON IT NOW, 46 MORE HOUSES, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE. AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM EVERY TUESDAY, THURSDAY AND SATURDAY AT THE DUMP. ON FLAGGY RUN WITH, THE DUMP CAN'T HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT ALREADY COMES TO IT. AND THAT NUMBER OF HOUSES ADDED TO IT IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH WORSE. AS A SIDE NOTE, I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE ANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, THAT COME BEFORE Y'ALL THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE COUNTY THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO HAVE THEIR OWN DUMP SITE ON THERE BECAUSE I THINK PRETTY MUCH ALL THE DUMP SITES IN THE COUNTY PRETTY MUCH DO THE SAME AS OURS. THEY RUN OVER ALL THE TIME. THEY JUST CAN'T HANDLE A LOT MORE. AND I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME AS FAR AS THE TAXES THAT HOME THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD PRODUCE FOR THE COUNTY, TINY, BUT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SAFE BET THAT THEY DON'T PRODUCE AS MANY TAXES, AS MUCH IN TAXES AS PROBABLY ONE CHILD IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS GOING TO COST US, AND THEY MAY HAVE MULTIPLE CHILDREN IN THE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE LOSE ON EVERYONE. AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HERE IN THE COUNTY, WE I MEAN, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY LIKE MYSELF AND MOST OF Y'ALL THAT GREW UP HERE, WE LOVE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S RURAL AND WE LOVE OUR LIFESTYLE AND THE WAY WE HAVE IT. AND THOSE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY LIKE IT TOO. THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO COME HERE. AND BUT IF WE KEEP LETTING ALL THE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY COME HERE, WE WON'T HAVE A COUNTRY, RURAL LIFESTYLE ANYMORE, WE'LL BE JUST LIKE THEM, AND ,YOU KNOW. IT, ISN'T THIS. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT BECAUSE I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T WRITE A SPEECH TONIGHT. I JUST FIGURED I'D GO OFF THE CUFF, BUT ANYWAY, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS NOTHING PERSONAL WITH THIS PERSON. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HIM. IT'S JUST I HATE FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE STUFF THAT COMES TO THE COUNTY THAT LOSES MONEY. AND I WISH WE COULD PUT ALL THAT EFFORT IN FILLING THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS WITH GOOD PAYING INDUSTRY FOR GOOD PAYING JOBS RATHER THAN THAN SOME MORE HOUSES, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING [00:25:02] EVERYONE. I'M JOANNE HARRISON. I LIVE AT 27344 FLAGGY RUN. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK RIGHT BACK THERE. WHAT HAPPENED TO US WHO LIVED THERE WHEN YOU BUILT ALL THESE HOUSES? SO WHAT DO THAT DO FOR US WHO LIVED THERE ALREADY? IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF BLOCKAGE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T INTERFERE WITH US ALREADY LIVING THERE. AND LIKE I SAY WE, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW COMING THROUGH THERE. WE HAVE KIDS THERE AND VERY COMFORTABLE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? OH, OUR TAXES GOING UP? ARE WE GOING TO BE SEPARATED FROM THESE NEW HOUSES? WHAT'S GOING ON? LIKE I SAY WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR TRASH TO THE DUMPSTER AND WE HAVE TO PAY $200 A MONTH. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT? AND THE DUMPSTER, LIKE HE SAID, IT'S ALREADY OVERFILLED. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE WHEN THIS NEW COMPLEX NEW HOUSES COME IN. ARE THEY GOING TO BE USING THE SAME NUMBERS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE CHARGED THE SAME PRICE THAT WE ARE CHARGING, OR IS IT GOING UP? AND I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN AND WE LIVE ON A RAILROAD TRACK AND WE PUT ALL THESE HOUSES OVER HERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING OVER THERE. SO BASICALLY, I LIKE TO JUST KNOW OUR TAXES GOING UP. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THE SAME DUMPSTER. ARE THEY GOING TO PAY THE SAME THING WE'RE GOING TO PAY? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE SAFETY OF OUR GRANDCHILDREN AND STUFF DOWN HERE? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? GOOD EVENING SIR. HELLO. I'M LARRY WHITLEY AND I LIVE AT 18508 ROSEMONT ROAD IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY. ALL MY LIFE, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. AND FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, FOR HOLDING OUR REAL ESTATE TAX RATE DOWN. YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB MASSAGING YOUR BUDGET AND KEEPING EVERYTHING HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU LET HOUSES COME IN HERE, IT'S GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. WE'RE ALREADY A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE LIVING HERE, A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE POLICE PROTECTION. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SCHOOLS AND ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT THEY EXPECT WHEN THEY COME OUT OF CHESAPEAKE. THEY WANT THE SAME AMENITIES HERE THAT THEY HAD, THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE HIGH TAXES THEY WERE PAYING, BUT THEY WANT TO COME IN AND LIVE OFF US. BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU IN WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST. BUT I DO THINK ALL THE HOMES SHOULD BE PAINTED RED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PUSH YOUR BUDGET IN THE RED. I THINK MOST ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU COLLECT IN REAL ESTATE TAXES ON A HOUSE, IT COSTS YOU ABOUT A $1.20, $1.30. SO IT'S A LOSING PROPOSITION. SO PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THIS. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE LOSING PROPOSITION THAN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE MORE BUSINESS, MORE INDUSTRY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE A HARD TIME ATTRACTING THAT. I GUESS WE'RE JUST A LITTLE TOO FAR FROM THE PORT, BUT WE JUST DO NOT NEED TO HEAD DOWN THE SAME DIRECTION AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE NOW WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'M SURE MR. THROWER COULD TELL YOU HE PROBABLY KNEW THAT FIGURE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BUT TO ME, WHEN I'M GETTING AROUND THE COUNTY IN THE MORNING, THERE'S A MASS EXODUS OF EVERYBODY LEAVING IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY AND THEN COME BACK IN HERE AT NIGHT TO SLEEP. BUT PLEASE, TURN THIS DOWN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ACTUALLY, MR. WHITLEY, THE MOST RECENT ESTIMATES ARE FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE GET IN TAX, WE SPEND BY $1.62. WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN? I MISSED THAT. FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE GET, WE THE COUNTY SPENDS BACK THE LOCALITY SPENDS $1.62 BACK. WHERE'S THE I THOUGHT I'M GOING TO SLEEP, I'M NOT GOING TO SLEEP TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT THEN. THERE'S NOBODY ELSE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ISSUE. ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO. I'LL HAVE ONE. FROM THE BUILDER. WILL YOU COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT CODES, CURRENT ORDINANCES FOR ONE AND TWO? [00:30:06] YES. YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. EXCUSE ME, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. WHAT WAS THE ANSWER TO THAT? YES. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. IN TERMS OF JUST UNDER DEVELOPMENT NOW, WHAT TYPE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA WOULD THIS BE? YOU HAVE A PRICE RANGE OF THE HOUSES OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. BUT WE'RE THINKING IN THE 300 TO 350 RANGE. SOMETHING I READ SAID AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. YES, MA'AM. I KNOW SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY HAS A SHORTAGE OF HOUSES. PEOPLE CAN'T FIND HOUSES. OKAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT A $300,000 HOUSE WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR A HOUSE. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, IT'S 450, WITHOUT THE FIGURE. THE ONLY COMMENT I'VE GOT IS ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS DYING ABOUT 500 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW, SO I DON'T THINK WE INCUR ANY COSTS BY ADDING STUDENTS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH THIS SMALL DEVELOPMENT. AND AS FAR AS POLICE COVERAGE AND ALL. I DON'T THINK HE'D HAVE TO ADD ON FOR THIS SMALL. HOW MANY HOUSES IS THIS? 14. 40. 40. 45. I WANT TO BE SURE I'M CLEAR AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR AGENDA, PACKET AND AGENDA ITEMS. WE'RE MERELY VOTING THIS TIME TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY APPROVING THE PROJECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S COMING UP ON THE NET. I KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE MY QUESTIONS WERE IN THE APPROPRIATE, UNDER THE APPROPRIATE AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME, BUT I THINK THEY'RE MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROJECT ITSELF AND WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEMS I'LL SAVE THEM FOR THEN. SO, WAS THAT A COMMENT? CAN THEY DO THAT OR AS A CLOSE? NO, NOT ME, BUT SOMEONE HAD A HAND UP IN THE BACK. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND FOLKS CONCERNS ABOUT ADDING ON TO THE POPULATION. BUT IF ANYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT, AND I'M RIGHT ABOUT IT, EVERY DAY, PRETTY MUCH. ALL THAT LAND IS NOT SUITED FOR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEEN SITTING THERE FOR YEARS, UNDEVELOPED AND UNUSED. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CHANGE THE AMENDMENT. FROM THE BACK STREET LEVEL OFF, IT'S CLOSED NOW. I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IS THERE A SECOND? I'M PREPARED TO VOTE ON IT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS 15 ACRES. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE HADN'T DONE BEFORE. SO, I MEAN, IT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ACTION WE'RE TAKING HERE. I'LL SECOND ROBERT'S MOTION TO APPROVE IT. THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MY INPUT, YOU KNOW, I VOTED AGAINST IT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN BEFORE WE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S IN FAVOR OF THE. YOU WANT TO. THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME STUDYING THIS, AND THIS IS PHASE 2 OF THE OVERALL PROJECT. AM I WRONG OR CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE TOTAL HOUSES ARE? 44. FOR BOTH PHASES? FOR BOTH PHASES, YES, SIR. SO YOU YOU'RE ADDING HOW MANY? 27. SO IT'S 17 ON THE FIRST AND [00:35:08] 27 ON THE SECOND. YOU GOT THAT REVERSE. REVERSE. REVERSED. WE'RE ADDING 17. YOU'RE ADDING 17 HOUSES. IT'S 27 IS ALREADY APPROVED. YOU'RE ADDING 17 FOR PHASE 2. THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT INSTEAD OF WHAT, 45. AND ALSO, SIR, IF WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING CONNECTIVITY FOR THIS, FOR SAFER FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND THE NEW RESIDENTS SO IT WILL CONNECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, SO. WE'VE WORKED WITH VDOT AND TWO CONNECTIONS ARE REQUIRED TO FLAGGY AND WE'RE DOING THAT. AND THAT SHOULD MAKE IT ULTIMATELY SAFER AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC IS DISPERSED BETWEEN THE TWO ENTRANCES. THAT MY THOUGHTS ON THE POSITIVE SIDE IS I'M NOT REALLY A FAN OF SUBDIVISIONS, BUT IN SOME CASES IT MAY BE A WAY TO KEEP DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM FARMING ISSUES. PUT ALL THESE HOUSES IN ONE PLACE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THEM SCATTERED ALL OUT TO THE TO THE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A. GO AHEAD. AS FAR AS THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED ISN'T PROJECTED THAT THE POPULATION WILL BE DECREASING? YEAH. THE COUNTY WE ALL KNOW THE COUNTY HAS BEEN STAYING RELATIVELY FLAT RIGHT AROUND 18,000 FOR A WHILE. AND YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AT CHARLES WORK SESSIONS, THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'RE RUNNING LOW ON QUANTITY IN THE COUNTY. I WOULD PERSONALLY RECOMMEND YOU ALL MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. I THINK IT FITS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE COUNTY. IT ADDS MORE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE HOUSING SUPPLY IN THE COUNTY, AS Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW, AND A LOT OF THE GOOD POINTS Y'ALL ALREADY RECOGNIZE THAT, LIKE DOCTOR EDWARDS HAD SAID THAT THE PROS AND CONS WITH RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT WOULD STOP SOME OF THE SCATTERING OF HOUSES IN THE COUNTY. AND I THINK OVERALL THEY'RE PROPOSING A GOOD PRODUCT. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND YOU MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT ANY MAJOR POPULATION INCREASE IN THIS COUNTY UNTIL IT'S LOOKED LIKE, LIKE 2032. I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, BUT THAT'S A NUMBER THAT'S BEEN THROWN AROUND FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES 5 TO 1. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PART HAS BEEN, OKAY. [9. Public Hearing – Rezoning – Request by East Coast Development Group] THE SECOND PART IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR REZONING, THE REZONING REQUEST FROM A-1 TO CONDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL. MR. RANDOLPH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THIS SECOND PUBLIC HEARING DEALS WITH THE CHANGE IN ZONING CLASSIFICATION. AND THIS IS STRICTLY FOR THE PHASE TWO SECTION. THE 15 ACRES FROM A1 TO CONDITIONAL R-2, PHASE ONE. THE ORIGINAL PROJECT IS ALREADY ZONED. IT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT REVIEW THAT CANNOT BE CHANGED. THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE THE SECOND PHASE, WHICH, AS INDICATED, WOULD PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION TO FLAGGY RUN, PROVIDE PROPER DRAINAGE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT AS FAR AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS OTHER CODE REQUIREMENTS, SIDEWALKS, STREETLIGHTS, AND THE AMENITIES THAT COME WITH A SUBDIVISION PER OUR SUBDIVISION AND ZONING CODES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW AND HOLD THEIR PUBLIC HEARING IN JUNE. THE ITEM? THEY TOOK NO ACTION. AT THEIR JUNE MEETING. THEY HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS REGARDING WETLANDS, DRAINAGE AND OTHER ITEMS. THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECONSIDERED THIS IN JULY AND ULTIMATELY HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION 6 TO 0 TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RANDOLPH? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE WILL THEREFORE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ISSUE. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK CONCERNING THIS ISSUE? NOW'S YOUR TIME. I, STEWART BARNHILL. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE OUT THERE? [00:40:02] GOT PLENTY OF TIME. EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU CAN COME ON UP. UP FRONT. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS COUNTY. THIS AREA BARELY MADE 20,000 TO $25,000 A YEAR. WITH THESE NEW HOUSES COMING IN AT 3 OR $400,000. THAT MEANS THEY CAN PUSH OUR TAXES UP EVEN MORE. AND AS IS, WE ARE DEALING WITH THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. SO WITH ALL THESE NEW HOMES AND COMING IN AT 350 AND $400,000. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CROWD OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ONES THAT'S LIVING HERE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR TAXES IS GOING TO BE RAISED. SO WHAT ABOUT THAT? ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, IT'S KIND OF EMBARRASSING FOR US COUNTY RESIDENTS. IT'S KIND OF EMBARRASSING FOR YOU, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, TO LET THIS LAND BE A.1 LOWER TAX RATE ALL THESE YEARS. AND ABOUT THE TIME IT STARTS FILLING HIS POCKETS FULL OF MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO LET HIM CHANGE IT. YOU KNOW, WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO COME IN HERE AND BUILD ALL THAT PRETTY STUFF UP AND THEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AFTER THEY FILL THEIR POCKETS FULL OF MONEY AND LEAVE. SO IT JUST KIND OF EMBARRASSING THAT WAITS TILL THE LAST MINUTE AND HE GOING TO REZONE IT. HI, I'M JOE BENTON, THE DEVELOPER AND BUILDER FOR THE SUBDIVISION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PHASE 1, AS WE KNOW, IS BEING BUILT. THERE'S 27 HOMES THAT ARE GOING IN THERE, IT'S ALREADY DONE. THEN WE ACQUIRED PHASE 2 BASED ON A ZONING MAP SHOWING THAT IT WAS ALREADY ZONED 2, R-2. THEN WE DISCOVERED FIVE MONTHS LATER THAT THE PROPERTY WAS NOT ZONED TO PER WHAT THE COUNTY HAD ON A GIS ON THEIR WEBSITE. SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. SO WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY THINKING THAT IT WAS ALREADY THE PROPER ZONING. IT WAS NOT. WE DISCOVERED IT, THE CITY DISCOVERED IT. SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW, AND IT'S COSTED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IN THE LAND IS SO SMALL IT CAN'T BE FARMED. IT'S ONLY 15 ACRES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH USABLE LAND THERE. THE ONLY OPTION IS MORE HOUSING. AND THEN WE PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY FOR THE ROADS FOR SAFER FOR TRAFFIC. SO? SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY IF WE DID NOT KNOW THAT IT WASN'T NOT ALREADY ZONED. WE WOULD HAVE JUST BUILT THE 27 HOMES AND DONE SO, AND THAT THERE WILL BE AN HOA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PER THE CITY, SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE MAINTAINED, THE HOUSES WILL BE MAINTAINED SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE MOVE IN, THEY'RE HELD TO A STANDARD SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COMING IN, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS COME IN AND HURT SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY IN ANY WAY. SO, YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. WHERE DO YOU BUY YOUR NEW MATERIALS LOCALLY OR? EVERYTHING IS ACTUALLY LOCALLY A LOT OF, WELL I'M SORRY. YOUR LABOR? BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AT SOUTHAMPTON NOW THAT FRAME FOR US RIGHT NOW, AND MOST OF THE MATERIAL, MOST OF THE MATERIALS ARE SOURCED. BUT SUFFOLK RICHMOND WHERE WHEREVER WE CAN GET THEM BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO LUMBER YARDS IN THIS AREA. THERE ARE ABOUT 45 MINUTES AWAY. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS PHASE 1 IS GOING AND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE PHASE 2 PART OF IT, OR OTHERWISE THE LAND IS JUST GOING TO SIT THERE AND DO NOTHING. AND WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE LAND BASED ON THE ON THE COUNTY GIS WEBSITE SHOWING THAT IT WAS R-2. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? JAMIE LEE BACK UP HERE AGAIN. I THOUGHT OF MY OTHER COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE EARLIER, BUT HE'S ALLUDED TO PART OF IT. BUT I WOULD, SO WE'VE GOT TO DEVELOP OUT OF CHESAPEAKE, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MOST OF THE WORKFORCE IS FROM CHESAPEAKE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT BOB EDWARDS PROBABLY WON'T SELL TOO MUCH LUMBER FOR THE THING. IT'LL PROBABLY COME FROM BUILDING MATERIALS, BECAUSE I SEE THE TRUCK DELIVERING MOST EVERY DAY WHEN I GO TO HARDEE'S OR THAT DIRECTION. [00:45:08] AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, ONCE AGAIN HAVE AN ADVERTISING PERSON COME IN AND MAKE THE MONEY, WHICH IS THAT'S WHAT HE DOES. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THEM TOO. BUT THE IDEA OF A TIME PERSON COMES IN AND MAKES THE MONEY TO PEOPLE THAT WORK, OR GOING TO WORK ON THE PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY BE MOSTLY OUT OF HAND. THE MATERIALS COME FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE PEOPLE FROM PORTLAND THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD THOSE HOUSES, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY'RE GOING TO GET OFF WORK, GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND HAMPTON OR CHESAPEAKE OR SUFFOLK OR WHEREVER, AND COME HOME AND SPEND THE NIGHT HERE AND GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GO RIGHT BACK THERE. SO THE COUNTY IS REALLY JUST GOING TO GET THEIR THEIR TAX MONEY OFF OF IT FOR THE HOUSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ON THAT. SO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY ARE GOING TO GET GOING AND PAY THE BILL FOR IT. THANK YOU. MR. RANDOLPH, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THAT, THOUGH, EVERYTHING THAT WE VOTE ON TONIGHT IS CONTINGENT ON A SITE PLAN WHICH APPROPRIATES ALL THE ORDINANCE, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ORDINANCE. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, DOCTOR EDWARDS, THAT IS CORRECT. BOTH PHASE 1 AND SHOULD PHASE 2 BE APPROVED THIS EVENING. HAVE TO MEET ALL THE CURRENT APPLICABLE CODES THAT WE HAVE OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. COULD YOU RUN THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT DISTRICT QUICK COURSE? IT HAS TO MEET STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PER OUR ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS TO BE APPROVED WITH THE STORMWATER PERMIT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY THROUGH THE STATE. THE STORMWATER PERMIT, THE CONNECTIVITY, THE ROADS HAVE TO BE BUILT TO STATE STANDARDS TO ULTIMATELY BE ACCEPTED INTO THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SECONDARY STREET SYSTEM. IT REQUIRES A COMMUNITY WELL SERVICE TO SERVE THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, PER OUR ORDINANCE. AND IT ALSO REQUIRES A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET OR THE OTHER, AS WELL AS STREETLIGHTS. SO IT HAS TO BE BUILT TO ALL CURRENT APPLICABLE CODES. REGARDING THAT, BOTH PHASE 1 AS WELL AS SHOULD PHASE 2 BE APPROVED. THERE WERE ON THE PROFFERS THAT SAID THE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREETLIGHTS, AND THEN SOMEBODY HAD HANDWRITTEN SOMETHING IN. I COULDN'T READ THE WRITING. YEAH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BECAUSE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THEY PROPOSED A WET POND OR STORMWATER POND TO GATHER THE STORMWATER FROM THE ROADS AND FROM THE ROOFTOPS AND SO FORTH. AND BECAUSE OF WHERE THAT IS LOCATED, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTED TO HELP ENSURE THE SAFETY SO THAT STORMWATER POND WILL HAVE A FENCE AROUND IT, AND THERE WILL BE ACCESS TO THAT POND SO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CAN DO THE REQUIRED MAINTENANCE SHOULD ANY MAINTENANCE BE REQUIRED ON THE POND. SO THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN THAT. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. RANDOLPH? THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OR COMMENTS? JACK LORD, I LIVE IT. EXCUSE ME, 18059 IVOR ROAD, AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT PRO-DEVELOPMENT. I HAPPEN TO BE PRO-DEVELOPMENT. I. THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS, FRANKLIN GOOD ON ARMORY DRIVE, IT'S COMING CLOSE TO GHOST TOWN DOWN THERE NOW. REMEMBER WHEN WALMART FIRST OPENED? YOU COULDN'T GET IN INTO A CHECKOUT LINE THAT WASN'T TEN PEOPLE DEEP, NOW YOU ARE HARD PRESSED TO FIND PEOPLE IN WALMART. I'M SURPRISED THAT FOODLAND ON 58 IS EVEN STILL THERE. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH CUSTOMERS IN THIS COUNTY TO SUPPORT BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CUSTOMERS THAT WILL ENTICE MORE BUSINESS TO COME IT. BRIAN, BE ABLE TO COLLECT MORE TAXES ON THE TRASH FEES. IT'S NOT A BASED ON YOUR VALUE OF YOUR HOME. IT'S BASED ON ONE ADDRESS. PAYS ONE TAX OR ONE. DON'T BE THE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD MORE MONEY IN THE DUMPS, SO WE COULD MAYBE MAIL AND OPEN THEM EVERY DAY. LATELY, I AGREE. YOU GO TO THE DUMP AND THEY'RE OVERFULL. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME ANYBODY CAME AND PICKED UP THE USED OIL ON ANY OF THEM. IT. YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE FALLING BEHIND. NOW, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND ON THE TAXES. THE TAX. THE TAXES ON THE HOUSE IS ONE THING, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT THREE CARS PER HOUSE AND YOU GET TAXES ON THAT. [00:50:07] THERE'S ALSO ALL THE OTHER FOOD TAXES THAT THOSE ALL THOSE HOUSES WILL BE PAYING EVERY TIME THEY GO TO A RESTAURANT. ALL IT ALL IT JUST BALLOONS AND IT GOES ON AND ON. IT WOULD JUST IT WOULD. I WOULD I'D BE MUCH HAPPIER IF THIS WAS A A BIT BIGGER COUNTY THAN IT IS. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ON A REZONING IN NORTHAMPTON COUNTY NOT LONG AGO. NORTHAMPTON COUNTY IS A LITTLE AHEAD OF US IN PREVENTING DEVELOPMENT. AND AS YOU RIDE NORTH, BUILDINGS ARE FALLING DOWN EVERYWHERE, AND ALL THEY WANT IS THEY WANT THE BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN. THEY WANT IT TO BE THE WAY IT WAS, BUT IT CAN'T BE THE WAY IT WAS. THERE'S NO CUSTOMERS FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, THOUGH. I'M SORRY TO BE OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY, BUT I JUST SEE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR FOR A LONG TIME AND I ENJOY IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GLORIA HARRIS. I LIVE 27154 FLAGGY RUN ROAD. SO YOU ALL WILL BE PROBABLY DIRECTLY BEHIND MY HOME. I WANT TO KNOW THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE'S THE RAILROAD TRACK THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I MISSED A LOT OF MEETINGS, SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT AREA DO YOU ENTER AND YOUR EXIT? BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS RIGHT THERE. SURE. OKAY. SO. SURE, SURE. THIS PLAN. YES, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO UNROLL IT FOR YOU HERE IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT HERE. SO THIS SHOWS THE PHASE TWO LOTS. THE PHASE ONE IS TO THE LEFT, AND YOU KNOW THAT EXIT ALREADY. THAT ENTRANCE ALREADY UP THERE ON THE CURVE. JOE, ON THE CURVE. UP THERE. IT'S THE ONE WITH THE GATE. IT'S THE ONE WITH THE GATE. IT'S THE ENTRANCE ENTRANCE INTO THE FARM AREA. YEAH. AND THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE DOWN HERE NEXT TO YOUR NEIGHBOR. DOWN HERE. SO. SO HERE'S FLAGGY RUN. AND THEN THE FIRST ENTRANCE IS UP HERE NEAR THE CURVE. AND THEN THIS ONE EXIT. THIS ENTRANCE WOULD BE DOWN HERE. HERE'S THE RAILROAD TRACK. YEAH. AND HERE'S FLAGGY RUN. DOES THAT HELP? NO. OKAY. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT ON THE RAILROAD TRACK IN THE CURVE, AND IT'S UP THAT WAY. UP! THIS WAY. UP. IF THAT'S. IF THAT'S THE RAILROAD TRACK. AND THERE'S THE, IN THE FLAGGY RUN BEND BACKS TOWARD THE, THAT'S YOU UP THERE? YES. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE A WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN YOU THE AIRPLANE. SOME KIND OF LIGHT BACK THERE WITH THE COUNTER WHEN THE PLANES CAN SEE. AND IT'S AN OPEN BACK THERE, BUT IT'S AT THE, IT'S AN ENTRY THERE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I CAN JUST STEP ON MY HOUSE. I CAN JUST STEP. MY HOUSE IS ABOUT AS FAR AS FROM THE RAILROAD TRACK, BUT NO TRAIN IS THERE. SO THAT MEANS YOU COMING UP THERE. YOU CAN BUILD THESE HOUSES. THERE'S NO PROTECTION BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND THESE NEW HOUSES. WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT THAT? EXCEPT WE'RE FARTHER AWAY FROM YOU. WE'RE DOWN HERE LIKE IN THE STRAIGHT PART ON FLAGGY. SO YOUR HOUSE IS UP HERE NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS MAP HERE AND YOUR HOUSE IS UP HERE NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK, AND FLAGGY COMES DOWN AND MAKES THIS TURN. AND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE INTO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE PHASE 1, WHICH IS HERE. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU COME A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN HERE AROUND THIS BEND, THEN THAT'S THE ENTRANCE INTO PHASE 2. DOES THAT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND IT? NO, NOT REALLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T WANT TO WATCH A HOUSE RIGHT IN THE BACK OF ME WHERE I CAN JUST TOUCH THEM. RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOWN THAT FAR TO YOU. BECAUSE YOU CAN COME DOWN TO THAT FAR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. I LIKE TO MAKE A POINT OF CLARITY, BEING THAT I AM ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO HELP SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND AND NOT TRYING TO PROMOTE THE BUILDER, BUT MAKING THE UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE DELIBERATIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. AS FAR AS YOUR CONCERN. THE PROPERTY ENTRANCE STARTS JUST BEYOND MR. [00:55:04] RIGG'S HOUSE DOWN THERE, IF YOU REMEMBER HIM. MR. RIGG'S HOUSE. YES, YES. AND THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING ASPHALT ROAD IN THERE BECAUSE. TO HELP CLARIFY THINGS TO THIS PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE EARLY 2000. YES. SO THAT WAS ALL THERE. SO THEN WHEN THIS EXISTING AGRICULTURAL LAND WAS LEFT OVER AND THEY SAID, WELL, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THE WHOLE THING. AND OUR DELIBERATIONS, THE MAJOR CONCERNS WERE WORRIED FOR YOU GUYS WAS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT REASSESSMENTS RAISE YOUR TAX RATES, WHICH IS THE MAJOR CONCERN ALSO TO TRAFFIC PATTERNS, EGRESS AND INGRESS OUT OF IT. SO YOU HAVE THE ONE ASPHALT DRIVEWAY THERE WITH THE EXISTING CUL DE SAC THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. AND BASICALLY THAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT WAS STOPPED AROUND 2008, 2010, JUST BECAUSE THE ECONOMY CRASHED AND THE HOUSING MARKET WENT OUT. SO IT'S BEEN IN LIMBO ON THAT, AND NOW THINGS ARE THERE FOR IT TO COME BACK. AS FAR AS THE NEW EXIT TO COME OUT DOWN THERE ON THE FAR END, THERE'S A CURVE DOWN THERE PAST THE PROPERTIES, PAST ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S EXISTING IN THERE. THERE'S LIKE A FIELD ENTRANCE THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPED SIGNS, NOT LANDSCAPED. SURVEY TAKE DOWN THERE. AND WE WERE CONCERNED ALSO ABOUT THAT BECAUSE ABOVE, MR. RIGGS, YOU HAVE A BLIND CURVE COMING FROM THE RAILROAD TRACK AND YOU HAVE A BLIND CURVE DOWN THERE AND A THING. SO WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT KIDS IN THE SCHOOL BUSSES AND EVERYTHING COMING THROUGH THERE. ALSO, TOO, THERE WERE MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER BECAUSE THAT LAND DOWN THERE DOES NOT DRAIN THAT WELL. AND ONE SAD THING THAT I HAVE SEEN IN BEING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OTHER THINGS IS HAVING INPUT BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IT'S HARD FOR US TO SIT THERE AND SPEAK FOR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY FEEDBACK FROM. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT YOU IN YOUR ABSENCE. AND ALSO TO YOU, THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT LIVED ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THE PROJECT, PROPOSED PROJECT. SHE CAME AND TOLD US ABOUT THE FLOODING SITUATIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DOWN THERE IN THE HEAVY RAINS. SO THE DEVELOPER CAME IN AND WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE BMP PONDS, WHICH IS A RETENTION POND TO CATCH STORMWATER DRAIN. THE MODIFICATIONS THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE TO ROADSIDE DRAINAGE. THINGS LIKE THAT TO KIND OF ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS. AND THAT'S WHY WE. TABLED THE MOTION SO THEY COULD COME BACK AND GIVE US MORE INFORMATION TO HELP YOU OUT. AND ALONG THOSE ALONG THOSE LINES, WE ALSO HAD CONCERNS WITH, WELL, THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE FACING FLAGGY RUN ROAD WITH THAT BMP POND BACK THERE AND THE EXISTING LIGHTING THAT'S GOING TO GO IN, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT YOU ALL WHO BASICALLY HAVE A DARK COMMUNITY AT NIGHT. SO WE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THAT BEING SAID, IT WAS LIKE WITH THAT BACKGROUND AND EVERYTHING BROUGHT TO LIGHT TO HAVE THE CONCERNS. AND IF YOU COME UP HERE AND YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING HERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A TREE BUFFER IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING PROPERTIES ON FLAGGY RUN ROAD AND THAT EXISTING AGRICULTURAL FIELD BEHIND THERE, WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING INTO. AND AS I SPEAK ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE HAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL SCREEN RIGHT THERE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THIS WOULD BE PROJECTED UP THERE WHERE EVERYONE CAN SEE AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING IN. EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED. AND. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DANNY, AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. ONE QUESTION ONLY. DID YOU ALL CONSIDER THE GRAVES THAT ARE BACK THERE NEAR THE THE RAILROAD TRACK? [01:00:06] YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE? NO. THERE IS THE PART OF GRAVES, I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIX. THAT'S BACK THERE NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK. DID YOU ALL CHECK IN TODAY? BECAUSE I IF I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I UNDERSTAND. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHERE LIKE, THIS IS THE FLAGGY RUN COMING FROM THE RAILROAD TRACK HERE. BEHIND YOUR HOUSE. IT'S BEHIND. IT'S BEHIND HER HOUSE NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACK. SO SHE LIVES. SHE LIVES DOWN A DEAD END ON THE RAILROAD TRACK OR DOES SHE LIVE UP HERE ON THIS END OF THE RAILROAD TRACK? WHEN YOU COMING INTO FRANKLIN ROAD, YOU HAVE THE PAVED ROAD THERE, YOU GO PAST THE PAVED ROAD. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING PAVED ROAD THAT COMES BACK INTO THE? THE ROAD THAT YOU ALL PUT THERE. I DON'T. YEAH. OKAY. BUILT BACK IN LIKE 2008. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES. YES, MA'AM. YOU GO PAST THAT. PAST THAT. RIGHT. TOWARDS THIS WAY BACK. NOT TOWARDS TOWN. THAT WAY. AND WHEN YOU GET PAST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY HOUSE TO STAND BEHIND HER HOUSE. AND I'M SAYING HER HOUSE BECAUSE THAT'S MY SISTER. THAT'S WHERE WE WERE RAISED AT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE SHOWN SIX GRAVES THAT BELONGED TO OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. AND THEY WERE ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS. ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS? YES. I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. WE HAD STUDIES COMPLETED ON THE LAND THAT WE OWNED, ONLY THE 24 ACRES AND THEN THE 14 ACRES. WE HAD COMPLETE STUDIES. WE GOT THE SURVEYS OUT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO OUR ATTENTION ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ABOUT 90 DAYS AGO, SOMEBODY ELSE HAD THAT SAME CONCERN. THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THEN COME AND SEARCH AND STUDY. AND WE HAVE NOT FOUND ANYTHING ON OUR PROPERTY. IF THERE ARE GRAVES, MAYBE THEY ARE BEHIND YOUR SISTER'S HOUSE ALONG THOSE PROPERTIES. BUT AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY WE OWNED, THERE ARE. THEY'RE NOT ON HER PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, IT'S RIGHT. THE RAILROAD TRACKS HERE. THE GRAVES. SIX GRAVES ARE RIGHT HERE. AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN I CHECKED WITH SOMEONE ABOUT PROPERTY AND BURIAL GROUNDS OF GRAVES THAT YOU CAN'T BE NOT SUPPOSED TO. CORRECT. JUST STAY. AND IF, GOD FORBID, SOMEBODY DIDN'T MISS THEM, WHAT WOULD WE. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS JUST SEND SOMETHING AND WE WOULD JUST DEDICATE THAT TO YOU GUYS. THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY OF THAT SO FAR. THEY ARE BACK DEAD. SIX. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? I CAN MAKE ONE. LAST CALL. WITH THE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING RAISED. THEY ARE ALSO SHOWING THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOW UP TO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON MATTERS BECAUSE KIND OF LIKE AFTER THE FACT INFORMATION, YES, IT WILL BE ADDRESSED, BUT IT HELPS US ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF YOU COME THERE AND YOU BRING THESE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS TO US. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE SENT OUT PUBLIC NOTICE ADDRESSED TO ALL THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S VERY HARD FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS TO SPEAK ON UNKNOWNS. SO WE DEFINITELY NEED YOUR INPUT AND THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR YOU. THE PEOPLE SHOW UP AND HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. AND IF. I WOULD THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER HERE, AS HE AND IN OUR MEETINGS WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO GO OUT TO THE SITE WITH YOU AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY NOT WANT TO. AND BASICALLY, THAT'S THE WAY THE PROCESS WOULD WORK. IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY. YOU'RE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO EVERYBODY HAS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THERE'S A BIG GAP BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND NEW QUESTIONS AND CAN COME UP. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. WE GO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. [01:05:06] WELL, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS BEEN THOROUGHLY REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE LAST MEETING. I DON'T THINK THERE WERE WAS OVER 5 OR 6 PEOPLE THERE. I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE 5 OR 6 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. THEY LOOKED AT EVERY AREA OF THIS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. THE NUMBER 45 SEEMED TO SCARE SOME PEOPLE, BUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS 15. AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPER DID TAKE A LOT OF PAIN TO MAKE THIS FIT, EVEN THOUGH IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS MISLEADING INFORMATION THAT THEY ADDRESSED AND FIXED AS BEST THEY COULD. AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS HARD FOR ME TO VOTE AGAINST IT. THERE WERE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND. MORE THAN ONE MEETING, FOR SURE. AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE FOR THIS. ANYBODY ELSE? YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF SUBDIVISIONS. I PROBABLY NEVER WILL BE. IN THIS CASE, IS IT FOR PRIME A1 FARMLAND. AND SOMETIMES SUBDIVISIONS ARE A WAY TO KEEP HOUSES AWAY FROM PRIME FARMLAND. THAT MAY BE THE PLUS IN THIS CASE. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY. YEAH I AGREE WITH Y'ALL. YOU KNOW TO KEEP IT OFF OUT OF THE PRIME FARMLAND. IT'S ALREADY PLANNED OUT. IT'S ALREADY 27 IS GOING IN THERE ANYWAY. THE BACK PART LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT A BUFFER STRIP BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOMES AND THE NEW PART OF THE PHASE TWO, AND THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE ENTRANCE ON INTEREST ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW. SO AND I THINK OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS CAN HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO PUT A LOAD ON THAT. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK SOUTHAMPTON DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF PROTECTING FARMLAND, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL STATISTICS WHO LOSE 40 ACRES OF FARMLAND EVERY HOUR IN THIS COUNTRY. SO WE'VE LOST 50 ACRES SINCE WE STARTED THIS MEETING AND TALKED. BUT I THINK SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY WE'VE WE'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB IN PROTECTING THAT. THAT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND ACRES A DAY. WELL, 160 ACRES A DAY. THIS WAS BEFORE MY TIME ON THE BOARD. BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE PIANO DEVELOPMENT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL. AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS HOW THAT TURNED OUT. AND I DON'T THINK YOU'D WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT. AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ONE WAY TO ADDRESS THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING, AS OPPOSED TO BUYING A FARM AND THEN STRIPPING IT DOWN THE ROAD. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO TO MAKE IT WORK. AND THE PLANNING. I WANT TO COMMEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY THEY WENT THE EXTRA MILE TO LOOK AT THIS AND REVIEW IT AND MAKE EVERY POSSIBLE THING FIT IN THERE. AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'LL SAY. IT'S HARD. YOU CAN'T. IT'S HARD TO CONVINCE ANYBODY THAT THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY FACED AND WORK TO TRY TO SATISFY THE CITIZENS. [01:10:05] ANYBODY ELSE? I THINK THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS HERE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND VOICING THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THOSE CONCERNS. SO I WOULD VOTE FOR IT. CHRIS. I HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. SO Y'ALL HAD TO BEAR WITH ME, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF EXPANDING UPON ROBERT'S STATEMENTS WITH A FEW QUESTIONS, JUST FOR CLARITY, AS I LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND THE MAPS AND STUDY, INGRESS AND EGRESS, AS HAS BEEN SPOKEN ON PREVIOUSLY TONIGHT. VINCENT LUKE TOUCHES FLAGGY RUN IN TWO PLACES, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE POINTS OF GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GETTING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NO JUNCTURE DOES THE RAILROAD INTERFERE WITH ANY OF IT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY WAY TO. AND I READ THE PROFFER, THE LIST OF PROPHETS OR WHATEVER, AND PEOPLE DO THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND PROFFERS ALL THE TIME. IS THERE ANY WAY TO AUGMENT ANY OF THEM WITH PROVISIONS FOR THE SCHOOL OR PROVISIONS FOR INCREASED DON'T PICK UP FOR TRASH TO ACCOMMODATE ANY ADDITIONS THERE. CAN WE EXPLORE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO ADD ANOTHER DUMP DAY? ANOTHER PICKUP FROM THE FROM THE DUMP? IN ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD PEOPLE HAVE TONIGHT. I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T ACCOMMODATE LOOKING AT THAT ANYWAY. IF IT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM, WE'RE ADDING TO IT BY ADDING HOUSES. YEAH, WE NEED TO LOOK DUMB. I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY FIX. I'M NOT JUST. I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A BIG ASS. ON ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS THERE, CHRIS. I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER, OTHER SUBDIVISION CODES. ISLE OF WIGHT FOREST EXAMPLES RECENTLY ABOUT TRASH. I THINK THEY STARTED I THINK IT WAS SOMETIME IN THE 90S. THEY STARTED A PROVISION IN THEIR SUBDIVISION CODE THAT THEY NOW REQUIRE NEW SUBDIVISIONS. I THINK IT WAS AFTER 1997 TO HAVE PRIVATE CURBSIDE PICKUP TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THEIR TRASH CONCERNS. THAT'S WHAT ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY DOES TO ADDRESS TRASH ISSUES AND INCREASE CAPACITY AT THEIR DUMPSTERS. SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU'RE GOING TO END UP PROFFERS AND CASH PROFFERS. AND THIS IS ALWAYS A QUESTION THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ADDING SUBDIVISIONS TO LOCALITIES. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY I'VE GOT THE EXACT, HOW THE STATE CODE READS ON THAT. PROFFERS ARE CERTAINLY PART OF IT. AND LOOKING AT AND WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY PROFFERED IN THEIR APPLICATION NOW. THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS ON ON PROFFERS IN VIRGINIA ESPECIALLY. I THINK THEY USED TO BE HIGH GROWTH LOCALITIES VERSUS NON HIGH GROWTH LOCALITIES. BUT I'LL LET THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ADDRESS THAT IF HE LIKES. THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST SAID A COUPLE MORE THINGS. AND LISTENING TO WHAT EVERYBODY'S HAD TO SAY HERE TONIGHT TO WHAT CAME TO MY MIND IS WHAT EVERYBODY'S HEARD AND REFERRED TO AS THE RIPPLE EFFECT. WELL, IT IT GOES BOTH WAYS IN MY MIND. YOU ADD A BUNCH OF HOUSES, THAT'S THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THE EFFECTS IT WILL HAVE ON OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. FIRE AND RESCUE, POLICE, THE DUMPS, THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, OUR HIGHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CONDITION OF IT. ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE WEIGHED. BUT AS IT'S RIPPLING THAT WAY, IT'S ALSO GOING THE OTHER WAY. AS FAR AS NOT ONLY WHAT THE HOUSES BRING OR DON'T, AS MANY OF YOU HAVE EMPHASIZED BUT THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THOSE PEOPLE'S PRESENCE IN OUR COUNTY AND ITS ECONOMY, THE GAS THEY BUY, THE FOOD, THEY BUY THE CLOTHES, THEY BUY, THE PEANUTS THEY BUY. I'VE GOT TO THINK THAT SOME OF THAT WILL OFFSET THE ADVERSE PRESENCE OF NEW NEIGHBORS. OKAY. IF THE CAN THE DUMP THING CAN'T BE ADDED OR ADDRESSED AT A LATER DATE TIME AFTER POST APPROVAL AS A PART OF THE PLAN'S REVIEW PROCESS. I WILL LEAN TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THAT. CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR SUBDIVISION CODE WHERE IT LISTS, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT LIKE SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY LISTED. I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I WOULD LEAVE THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADDRESS ON FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ADDRESS THAT YOU COULD AMEND YOUR SUBDIVISION CODE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT THINGS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE FUTURE. THAT MAY BE THE BETTER ROUTE TO DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HERE AS A MEANS TO ALLEVIATE THAT VERY REAL CONCERN FOR OUR CITIZENS. [01:15:08] BUT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ARE YOU SURE? I'M SURE MR. RANDOLPH COULD TAKE THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. MAKE SURE IT'S A QUALITY JOB. IF YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU LIKE TO ADD, I GET WITH MR. RANDOLPH THERE AND WE'LL TAKE IT. TAKE SOME PLANNING COMMISSION AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. ARE THE SEWER AND WATER? HOW ARE THESE HOMES SERVICED? ARE THEY? IS IT AN ELEVATED TANK AND SEPTIC, OR IS IT PRIVATE WELLS AND. THE SEWER IS ONSITE. SEWAGE TREATMENT WITH THE SEPTIC TANK DRAIN FIELD ON THE LOT. AND THE WELL IS A COMMUNITY WELL SYSTEM. THERE'S LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT WELLS THAT WOULD BE DRILLED AND THE WATER WOULD BE SUPPLIED IN A WATER PIPE IN THE ROAD GOING TO EACH HOUSE. SO IT'S SELF-SUFFICIENT. THE HOA WOULD COVER COST OF REPAIR AND REPLACE IT, WHATEVER IS NECESSARY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE THING. I PROMISE I'M DONE. IF I UNDERSTOOD MR. RANDOLPH CORRECTLY, THAT THERE'S PROVISIONS IN PHASE 2 THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THE COMPLETION OF PHASE 1 THROUGH DRAINAGE AND CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS. STORMWATER RETENTION CONTRACTUALLY BEYOND THESE 15 ACRES, BUT THAT WOULD SERVE THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO ALL THE DRAINAGE STORMWATER WILL COME TO THAT POINT AS SHOWN ON THE MAPS OR THE EXHIBITS IN THERE. GOTCHA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY HAD ANYTHING ELSE? THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT RECOMMENDATION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND. SECOND? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OKAY. IT'S UNANIMOUS. SOMETIMES THE DECISIONS AREN'T POPULAR, AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO HARD THINGS. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. [10. No Through Truck Traffic – Buckhorn Quarter Road – Request by Vice Chairman Gillette] OKAY, NUMBER 11. WILLIAM HART-GILLETTE. YOU HAD A PRESENTATION FOR NO THROUGH TRUCK TRAFFIC FOR BUCKHORN QUARTER ROAD. YES. I ASK MR. THROWER TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE HIGHWAY VDOT TO LOOK AT THAT AS A NO THROUGH ZONE. IT SEEMS THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THERE WITH LARGE TRUCKS, TOO. TWO CONSTRUCTION PICKUPS CAN'T MEET AND PASS WITHOUT SOMEBODY GETTING OFF THE ROAD, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES THERE. AND SO I'D LIKE FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE COULDN'T CARRY THAT THROUGH. JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M SURE THE BOARD ALREADY KNOWS THIS. IF YOU DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, YOU WOULD NEED TO AUTHORIZE CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING AT A FUTURE MEETING. WE WILL BRING UP RESOLUTION BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO REQUEST THAT VDOT CONSIDER THIS. YOU DO HAVE A MAP OF WHAT MR. GILLETTE HAVE PUT IN YOUR. REQUEST IS PRETTY, PRETTY SIMPLE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS AUTHORIZED IN CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVING THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. IF YOU DID AUTHORIZE THAT AND ADOPTING A RESOLUTION. RECOMMENDATION, ANYBODY TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT? YEAH. SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. AND I GUESS THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN ADVERTISE THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE THE RESOLUTION READY. YEP, WELL, I WILL HAVE THAT ADVERTISE FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WITH THE RESOLUTION AND PUBLIC HEARING. CORRECT. THERE'S A VERY GOOD SCHEMATIC DRAWING IN THERE, IF ANYBODY HASN'T SEEN IT. IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. YEAH, WE WE REVIEWED THIS ONE TIME BEFORE, BUT PROPOSED. [01:20:06] RIGHT. DIDN'T THEY IMPROVED THAT CROSSING AND IT WAS HARD TO CROSS THERE BEFORE, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T PAY US, BUT THEY GOT IT. WE DIDN'T MAKE A LEFT TURN OUT OF THERE WITHOUT RUNNING OFF THROUGH THE MEDIAN STRIP. I THINK THEY'VE IMPROVED IT. OKAY, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT NEXT MEETING. MOVING ON. MR. CARL HECK, WE LEFT YOU OUT THE AGENDA TONIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SET UP ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN EDWARDS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. I'LL JUST MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON OUR PROFESSIONAL HEADSHOT DAY IS COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 22ND AND 23RD, SO SIGN UPS ARE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THAT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED. IT'S OUR ANNUAL FREE EVENT THAT'S BECOME VERY POPULAR. WE CONTINUE TO DO FIELD PRINT FINGERPRINTING. I'VE LEARNED HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED FINGERPRINTS FOR THEIR JOBS. WE'VE DONE ABOUT 250 OF THEM IN OUR OFFICE IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS. SO THAT SERVICE IS AVAILABLE IN FRANKLIN, WHERE IT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY. OUR COMMUNITY VISIONING PROGRAM IS COMING BACK. WE HAD CONSULTANTS IN THE COUNTY LAST WEEK THAT MET WITH SEVERAL COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARD ANOTHER COMMUNITY EVENT THAT WILL BE IN THE FALL. AND IT'S NOT TOO EARLY TO START THINKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS EXPO ON NOVEMBER 20TH AND THE SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH IS COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 29TH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT COOL TOMORROW NIGHT. SO THAT'LL BE A FIRST REMINDER THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE COMING. AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SPACE IN THE FRANKLIN BUSINESS CENTER AND WORK ON A VARIETY OF PROJECTS. SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE THEM. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY OUT THERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A NEED FOR A CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT. [11. Closed Session] YES, SIR. MOTION IS REQUIRED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES ONE. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 (A)(1) PERSONNEL MATTER REGARDING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND DUTIES. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 (A)(5) DISCUSSION WITH STAFF FROM FRANKLIN SOUTHAMPTON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED CONCERNING A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY, OR THE EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY'S INTEREST IN LOCATING OR EXPANDING ITS FACILITIES IN SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY, AND 3 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTIONS 2.2-3711 (A)(7) AND (A)(8) ACTUAL LITIGATION, AND IN CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PERTAINING TO THE NEWSOME CDBG DRAINAGE PROJECT, DRAKE EASEMENT CONDEMNATION AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2.2-3711 (A)(8) CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS REQUIRING THE PROVISION OF LEGAL ADVICE PERTAINING TO THE INVESTIGATION OF THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. WE NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION CONCERNING THOSE ISSUES. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. IN CLOSED SESSION. ARE WE READY? YES. WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. NEED A MOTION TO GO BACK AND OPEN SESSION. SO MOVE. SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. RESOLUTION. MOTION IS REQUIRED TO ADOPT THE CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION BELOW. THE CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION MUST BE VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY BY EACH BOARD MEMBER VIA ROLL CALL. WHEREAS THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE A CLOSED MEETING ON THIS DATE PURSUANT TO AN AFFIRMATIVE RECORDED VOTE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. AND WHEREAS, SECTION 2.2-3712 (D) OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES A CERTIFICATION BY THE BOARD THAT SUCH CLOSED MEETING WAS CONDUCTED IN CONFORMITY WITH VIRGINIA LAW. NOW, THEREFORE, BE RESOLVED, THAT THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY CERTIFIES THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS BY VIRGINIA LAW WERE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED MEETING TO WHICH THE CERTIFICATION RESOLUTION APPLIES IN ONLY SUCH PUBLIC MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING THE CLOSED MEETING WERE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDERED BY THE SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL VOICE VOTE. VOTE ON THIS. SUPERVISOR CORNWELL. YES. SUPERVISOR WHITE. YES. SUPERVISOR FAISON. YES. I VOTE YES. SUPERVISOR GILLETTE. YES. SUPERVISOR UPDIKE. YES. OKAY. LET'S GET OUT OF HERE. I MOVE, WE ADJOURN. ON TO THE THIRD. FOURTH. GOOD IDEA. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.