Link

Social

Embed

Disable autoplay on embedded content?

Download

Download
Download Transcript


HELLO, GOOD MORNING

[Call to Order]

[00:00:03]

AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ACADEMIC SCHOOL YEAR.

IT'S AUGUST 14TH, 2 20 25, UH, FOR OUR BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL HAMNER, CHAIR OF THE BOC.

I WANNA WARMLY WELCOME ALL OF OUR MEMBERS, DISTRICT STAFF, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, AND ALSO THE FIRST DAY OF REGULAR CLASSES FOR L-A-U-S-D STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.

SO I WANT TO WISH THE BEST TO ALL, INCLUDING THE MEMBERS OF THE BOC AND STAFF WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN THE DISTRICT.

I'VE LEARNED THE BOC MISSION, UH, VERY QUICKLY HERE.

THE BOC CHARTER AND MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, THE MOU STATES THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS SHARED, HAS A SHARED VISION WITH THE DISTRICT IN BUILDING, MODERNIZING, AND MAINTAINING SCHOOLS THAT PROMOTE THE FULL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHILD ARE EDUCATIONALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND, ENHANCE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH DESIGN AND PROGRAMMING AS CENTERS OF COMMUNITY, AND REFLECT THE WISE AND EFFICIENT USE OF LIMITED LAND.

HOWEVER, THE MOU ALSO STATES THAT THE BOC HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THE EXPENDITURE OF BOND FUNDS WHEN THE DISTRICT DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE INFORMATION FOR EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT, OR WHEN A PROJECT OR PROGRAM APPEARS TO BE IMPERMISSIBLE OR IMP PRUDENT.

SO, THAT IS OUR PURPOSE HERE AND WHAT THE VOTERS ENDORSED IN EACH OF THE DISTRICT'S BOND MEASURES AS THEY PROVIDED, AS PROVIDED BY STATE LAW.

FOR THE RECORD, OR EXCUSE ME, FOR THIS MEETING, WE HAVE MOST MEMBERS ATTENDING IN PERSON.

UH, HOWEVER, IN THE BOARD ROOM, HOWEVER, WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE PARTICIPATING REMOTELY.

UH, DR.

UH, ASTON MILLER AND MR. ROSS, CORRECT.

HELLO.

HELLO.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, CASE L-C-S-I-T-S STAFF AND THE SPANISH INTERPRETATION STAFF FOR THEIR SEAMLESS WORK IN BROADCASTING OUR MEETINGS.

AND WITH THAT, I

[Chair’s Remarks]

WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. CAMPBELL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REMARKS.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR HAMMER.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ROBERT CAMPBELL.

I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THE BC WEBSITE CAN BE FOUND AT AD.ORG/BOC.

A LIVE STREAM OF TODAY'S MEETING CAN BE FOUND ON THIS WEBSITE UNDER THE TAB MEETING AGENDAS.

UPCOMING MEETINGS.

THE STREAM INCLUDES VERSIONS IN BOTH ENGLISH SPANISH RECORDING IN PROGRESS, AND SPANISH.

THE BOC WEBSITE ALSO INCLUDES MATERIALS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BOND MEASURES, AND OTHER INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE BOC AND OUR OVERSIGHT ROLE.

THIS MEETING IS BEING CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BROWN ACT.

FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE REMOTELY, WE ASK THAT YOU REGISTER ON A GOOGLE FORM PROVIDED AS A HYPERLINK ON THE MEETING AGENDA.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE BOARDROOM WHO WISH TO SPEAK, YOU MAY ALSO SIGN UP TO THE RIGHT OF THE SPEAKER PODIUM.

TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR. HAMNER.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UM, FIRST, UH, I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE AND WOULD LIKE TO WARMLY WELCOME OUR NEWEST MEMBER, UH, MS. CHARLOTTE LURCH MUELLER.

YES.

PERFECT.

AH, NOMINATED BY THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS RETIRED, UH, MS. LUCHAR, UH, LURCH MILLER.

SEE, NOW I MESSED IT UP.

NOW, MISS, MISS LURTON MUELLER, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE BY INTRODUCING YOURSELF TO THE COMMITTEE? WELL, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE, AND I AM A VOTING MEMBER OF THE, UH, ELECTORATE.

AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, I HAVE VOTED FOR EVERY BOND ISSUE.

OKAY.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I'M A RETIRED MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL.

I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH LOS ANGELES UNIFIED SINCE I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

I WENT TO K THROUGH SIX, SEVEN THROUGH NINE, 10 THROUGH 12.

I AM A AN L-A-U-S-D, UM, GRADUATE, AND I KNOW HOW TO READ, WRITE, AND DO OTHER STUFF.

SO, WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, UH, RELATED TO MEMBERSHIP.

I ALSO WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS FOR APPOINTING THE, UH, VACANT BOE PARENT MEMBER IN ITS UNDERWAY, AND PARENTS WHO EXPRESS INTEREST WILL BE CONTACTED SHORTLY.

NEXT ITEM.

UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE AGENDA IN THE MEETING MATERIALS IS A TABLE WITH ENROLLMENT DATA FOR THE PROPOSED PER FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT SCHOOL SITES BEING CONSIDERED BY THE BOC TODAY.

HOWEVER, NO DATA IS PROVIDED FOR THE LIST OF BOARD, DISTRICT, OR REGIONAL PRIORITY SCHOOL SITES.

LASTLY, UH, I WANTED TO LET THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE BOC STAFF REGARDING AN EVALUATION OF THE B C'S AREAS OF FOCUS.

WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND I INVITE THE MEMBERS TO THINK ABOUT THE TOPIC AND OFFER ANY INPUT.

AS YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM CONTINUES TO ACCELERATE IN TERMS OF PROJECTS AND VOLUME

[00:05:01]

AND THE ISSUES BECOMING, UH, EVER MORE COMPLEX.

AND WITH THAT, WE WILL START WITH OUR AGENDA.

OUR, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS PUBLIC

[1. Public Comment (Part 1 of 2)]

COMMENT.

UH, SPEAKERS WILL BE HEARD, UH, THEY'LL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS MORE THAN ONE AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL BE PROVIDED SIX MINUTES TOTAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS PHONING IN SHOULD MONITOR THE MEETING THROUGH THE LIVE STREAM AND THEN TURN OFF THE LIVE STREAM VOLUME.

WHEN ASKED TO SPEAK TO AVOID AUDIO ECHO OR FEEDBACK, WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, MS. IDLE WILL ANNOUNCE THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, AND YOU'LL BE INSTRUCTED TO UNMUTE ON ZOOM OR PRESS STAR SIX TO SPEAK, UH, IN-PERSON SPEAKERS WILL SIMPLY BE ASKED TO, UH, STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND USE THE MICROPHONE.

AND WITH THAT STAFF, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS? GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND BSC MEMBERS? YES.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER WOULD BE, UM, MS. GRACIE FUENTES.

UM, ARE YOU HERE IN THE, IN THE BOARDROOM? OKAY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, MR. DAVID KOSKI.

WELCOME, AND YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

HOPE, UH, ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED MY CORRESPONDENCE AND, UM, UH, AND WILL REFLECT ON THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, UM, UH, MEANINGFUL TO YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU DO AS A, UM, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO THE, UM, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS YOU REPRESENT, AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY THAT HAS PUT, UH, THE TRUST AND FAITH IN, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BY HAVING AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THE FIRST BOND MEASURE BB, UM, FAILED, UM, BEFORE THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE REALLY DEVELOPED.

AND SO WE, WE SAW THAT THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY, UM, EXPECTS AND IS CERTAINLY TOUTED BY THE, BY THE FACILITIES AND DISTRICT.

WELCOME TO CHARLOTTE LURCHER MUELLER, MY FRIEND.

UH, TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHO'S A, A SCHOOL SITE ADMINISTRATOR, WHO KNOWS, UM, WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT CAN BE PRIORITIZED.

AND ALSO HOPEFULLY TO TAKE YOU BEYOND JUST PHOTOS OF THE SCHOOLS, WHICH, WHICH ARE HELPFUL IN THE MATERIALS, BUT MAYBE TO LEAD SOME, UH, GROUPS OF THREE OR FOUR OF YOU TO, TO TAKE ASSESSMENTS AT THE SITES AND SEE ACTUALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING, UH, OR NOT HAPPENING.

UM, SO VISITING CAMPUSES IS SOMETHING THAT THIS OVERSIGHT C COMMITTEE HAS DONE IN THE PAST.

UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, YOUR MOU IS, UH, AND THE AGENDA TODAY IS GOING TO BE, UM, REVIEWED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF.

IF NOT, UH, THE BOARD OF ED DOES NOT SET THE AGENDA GENERALLY FOR THEIR MEETINGS.

IT'S SET BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, TO GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

UH, FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS, IT USUALLY COMES TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.

IT CAN COME THROUGH TWO OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, MOVING AHEAD.

UH, AND THE, AND THE DELAY ON THE, THE MOU.

IN TERMS OF, UH, PRESENTATIONS TODAY IN THE MATERIALS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, UH, IT COULD BE ONLINE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE MATERIALS TODAY.

UH, FROM, UH, THE REVIEW OF THE OVER BILLION DOLLARS OF IT THAT YOU'LL GET A PRESENTATION TODAY, UH, MIGHT BE ONLINE, BUT IT'S NOT HERE FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC.

SIMILARLY, THE FACILITIES, UH, SENIOR STAFF WHO WILL PRESENT, UH, MS. TOS, UH, THERE'S NO MATERIALS AS WELL, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC.

IT, AGAIN, IT COULD BE ONLINE, LET ME SAY.

UM, THERE, THERE IS, UH, A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN ASK ABOUT THAT, UH, SHOULD BE DELINEATED FOR YOU THAT ARE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY ARISING IN COSTS BECAUSE OF SITUATIONS OF LABOR AND MATERIALS, AS WELL AS, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO SAY SOME OTHER REASONS.

UM, I POINT YOU TO HAMILTON HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WHICH I THINK, UM, SITS, UH, WITHIN VIEW OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S HOUSE.

SHE, SHE CAN LOOK OUT AND SEE THE PROJECT VERY, VERY OFTEN, SEES, UH, NEXT TO NOBODY ON, ON THE CAMPUS WORKING.

UM, THERE IS, UH, IT'S HEADED TOWARDS A HALF A BILLION DOLLAR, UH, MODERNIZATION, HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.

AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH, UH, NUMBER, UH, BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE 80, A HUNDRED YEARS OLD WILL NOT GET THE MODERNIZATIONS.

AND IN PARTICULAR, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE NOT AS LIKELY TO GET THE MODERNIZATION MONEY.

THERE ARE ALSO PROJECTS THAT, UM, ARE NOT REALLY DEVELOPED INTO THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

I, I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT

[00:10:01]

EAST, I THINK YOU HAD A DESKTOP A WHILE AGO ON THE EAST LA UH, OCCUPATIONAL CENTER, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE COUNTY GENERAL AND KECK MEDICAL.

IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR LA UNIFIED TO DO SOMETHING GREAT.

THAT PROJECT IS NOT EVEN KNOWN TO MANY IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT THAT IS A MOMENT THAT'S COMING TO YOU.

WHAT IS KNOWN, OF COURSE, IS PALISADES HIGH, PALISADES ELEMENTARY AND MARQUEZ, WHICH HOPEFULLY, UH, WILL BE, UH, REIMBURSED IF THERE'S STILL A FEMA, UH, WHICH I ASSUME THERE WILL BE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE REPUBLICAN STATES AS WELL AS DEMOCRAT STATES.

UM, YOU NEED A REPORT BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE TRANSFERRING $600 MILLION OR MORE OF BOND MONEY TO, UH, THREE SCHOOLS, UM, TWO OF WHICH I ATTENDED.

SO I'M, I'M BIASED TOWARDS SPENDING MONEY THERE, BUT I THINK THE INSURANCE AS WELL AS FEMA SHOULD BE ON POINT IN THOSE PLACES.

WITH RESPECT TO EARLY ED SITES, UH, I, I'VE MENTIONED TO A COUPLE OF YOU, UM, EARLY ED SITES, AND AGAIN, FACILITIES IS, IS SORT OF A, A RECEIVER OF INSTRUCTIONAL CAUSES, BUT EARLY ED SITES ARE OFTEN 80 OR 90 KIDS.

AND YET ON MANY OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THOSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL HAVE FOUR KINDERGARTENS, THREE OR FOUR, UH, TK CAMPUS.

UH, THEY MIGHT EVEN HAVE A SPECIAL ED FOR THREE.

THEY MAY HAVE 200 LITTLE THREE, FOUR AND FIVE YEAR OLDS.

AND YET MANY OF THOSE SCHOOLS ARE NOT PRIORITIZED IN EARLY ED BECAUSE THE EARLY ED BECOMES EARLY ED CENTERS.

AND SO I, I INVITE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

ALSO.

UM, TODAY YOU HAVE FAIRFAX AT $10 MILLION TURF.

UM, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS RELATED TO THE GRAND MODERNIZATION OR ITS INTRODUCTION, UM, BUT I WAS AT FAIRFAX AT THE, THE GREAT SWAP MEET THAT THEY HAVE THERE.

UM, AND FOUND OUT THAT THE AUDITORIUM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, THE GOLDEN AUDITORIUMS OF THIS DISTRICT, IS NOT BEING TOUCHED BY THE MODERNIZATION.

UH, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE DIDN'T PUT MEASURE US ON, ON, ON THE PUBLIC EARLY ENOUGH.

AND SO IT WAS BASED UPON MEASURE, RRS DWINDLING BUDGET.

SO RECEIPT A HIGH, AND, UH, FAIRFAX GOT A SQUEEZED BUDGET, UM, WHEN IN FACT, UH, THIS IS A SCHOOL IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY WITH A GLORIOUS AUDITORIUM.

AND LASTLY, ON THE GREENING ISSUE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO A NUMBER OF YOU AS WELL.

AND, AND TO BOARD MEMBERS, UM, SOME OF THE GREENING, AND YOU HAVE TALENTED PEOPLE ON YOUR GROUP.

I VISITED MY MOTHER'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THE GREENING GOT REDUCED TO A LITTLE PATCH OVER THERE FOR A VEGETABLE GARDEN, SOME GREENING WHERE WE'RE REMOVING THE BALS, AND THEN IN BETWEEN A DESERT OF CEMENT.

SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO SOME DEEPER THINKING ON HOW YOU, UH, PUT TOGETHER THESE GREENING PROJECTS THAT ARE COHERENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, UH, STAFF? MS. UH, GRACIE FUENTES? IS MS. GRACIE FUENTES HERE? UH, NO.

THEN, UM, THAT CONCLUDES, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[2. Consent Calendar]

IS OUR, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UH, THIS WILL COVER, UM, OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM MAY 1ST, OUR MINUTES FROM MAY 22ND, AND OUR BOC FOURTH QUARTER REPORT.

UM, ANY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WITH NONE? UH, DOES ANY MEMBER, IS THERE A MEMBER HERE THAT WISHES TO MOVE? MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MOVE BY MR. CAMPBELL.

A SECOND? SECOND.

MS. BETS, UH, MR. POCHO, CAN YOU CONDUCT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, UM, MEMBERS THAT TODAY'S MEETING WILL BE DOING, UH, VOTES ALL BY ROLL CALL.

UH, SO I'LL BE CALLING YOUR NAME AND IF YOU COULD INDICATE I NAY OR ABSTAIN, THE FIRST ITEM YOU'RE VOTING ON IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AS MR. HAMNER SAID, THE MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 1ST, MAY 22ND, AND THE FOURTH QUARTER REPORT FROM THE BOC UH, DR. CHEN MILLER.

AYE.

THANK YOU, MS. BELL.

AYE.

THANK YOU MS. BETS.

AYE, UH, MR. BOGGIO IS ABSENT.

UH, MS. LURTON MUELLER.

AYE.

THANK YOU, MS. LEWIS.

AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? UM, I'LL ABSTAIN.

I WAS ABSENT.

THANK YOU, THOUGH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. MEOW IS ABSENT.

MR. ROSS? YEAH.

THANK YOU, MR. MCFARLAND.

AYE.

MR. PANSKY IS ABSENT.

UH, DR.

ROLLS IS ABSENT.

MR. CAMPBELL? AYE.

AND MR. HAMNER? AYE.

[00:15:01]

THE, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR ADOPTED WITH NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS,

[3. BOC Consideration of Updated Proposed Revisions to the BOC Charter and MOU]

UM, OUR BOC CONSIDERATION OF AN UPDATED PROVISION OR PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE BOC CHARTER AND MOU.

UM, I'LL READ THE INTRODUCTION HERE, BUT I THINK, UM, STAFF, ARE YOU GOING TO, UH, PROVIDE A BIT OF A OVERVIEW? OKAY.

ALRIGHTY.

MEMBERS, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, PROPOSES THAT THE FULL COMMITTEE APPROVE, UH, PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE MOU.

INCLUDED IN THE MEETING MATERIALS, EACH MEMBER WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BRIEFING ON THESE CHANGES PRIOR, UH, TO TODAY.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT BACK IN 2023, THE BOC FORMED AN MOU REVIEW TASK FORCE.

I PERSONALLY WAS THE CHAIR OF THAT TASK FORCE, WHICH RECOMMENDED A SET OF PROPOSED REVISIONS THAT WERE FORWARDED TO THE DISTRICT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE MOU IS NOW, UH, CLOSE TO SEVEN YEARS.

UM, OLD THE BOC HAS RECEIVED NO FORMAL RESPONSES TO THESE REVISIONS.

FIRST PROPOSED IN 2023 AND RECENTLY THE BOC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASKED THE BOC STAFF TO DRAFT AN UPDATED SET OF PROVISIONS, UH, PROPOSED REVISIONS, ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT HAVE EMERGED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

IN THAT TIME, MEASURE US WAS PASSED BY VOTERS, AND OTHER CHANGES HAVE EMERGED, HAVE ADDRESSED THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IN THESE REVISIONS.

IF APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, THESE PROPOSED REVISIONS WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE OTHER SIGNATORIES OF THE MOU, THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE BOARD PRESIDENT, AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS HOPE THAT THIS ACTION WILL REINITIATE WHEN, WHAT MUST BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH ALL SIGNATORIES IN AGREEMENT TO REVISE THE MOU.

ALRIGHT, BUCKMAN MORNING, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

I'M JOSEPH BUCKMAN, THE, UH, INDEPENDENT LEGAL COUNSEL TO THE COMMITTEE.

UM, AS THE, AS CHAIR HAMNER INTRODUCED, THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN TAKING A FEW YEARS.

PERIODICALLY THE, UH, COMMITTEE AND THE DISTRICT AGREED TO AMEND THE MOU.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2002, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IMPROVED.

IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT IS NOT EXPIRED.

THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION OR MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT IT THAT IT SOMEHOW EXPIRED.

IT DID NOT, IT'S STILL IN EFFECT, IT'S JUST THE ONE THAT WAS ADOPTED OR UPDATED IN 2017.

THAT IS THE CURRENT MOU AND PERIODICALLY, UM, THE COMMITTEE, ITS PROCESSES ARE REVIEWED BY AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW, AND THAT OCCURRED IN 2022.

AND FOLLOWING THAT, UH, ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE EXISTING MOU, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVO PRO, UM, PROPOSED REVISIONS OCCURS.

AND SO TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY IN 2023, THE TASK FORCE THAT WAS FORMED, UM, WORKING WITH STAFF, PUT TOGETHER SOME PROPOSED REVISIONS TO ADDRESS CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAD OCCURRED SINCE 2017 TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE, UH, DOCUMENT AS A REFLECTION OF HOW THE COMMITTEE OPERATES.

AND, UM, WITHIN THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THE, OF THE DISTRICT.

UM, SO THE, THE TASK FORCE PR, UH, CAME UP WITH A SET OF REVISIONS.

THOSE WERE PROPOSED AS, AS CHAIR HAMNER INDICATED TO DISTRICT STAFF.

AND ALTHOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN MURMURINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WOULD BE A RESPONSE TO THAT, IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN UPDATE OF THOSE REVISIONS THAT WERE PRO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED TO THE DISTRICT STAFF IN 2023.

THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS IN THESE, THIS SET OF REVISIONS TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT OCCURRED SINCE THOSE WERE MADE IN 20 23, 2 YEARS AGO.

UM, AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS SET OF RED LINES.

UM, WHAT THIS ITEM WOULD DO IS IF THE COMMITTEE, UH, VOTES TO RECOMMEND THIS BE SENT TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, THEN WE WOULD BE SENDING THIS SET OF REVISIONS TO THE DISTRICT, BUT TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, UM, NOT TO DISTRICT STAFF, UM, DIRECTLY.

IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

AND THEN WE, AS WE'VE DONE WHEN THE PROCESS HAS HAPPENED IN YEARS PAST FROM 2002 TO 2017,

[00:20:01]

UM, THOSE, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION REVIEWS, THOSE, THERE MAY BE COUNTER PROPOSAL, UM, BUT THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A DIALOGUE, UM, WHETHER THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ACCEPT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THIS, THAT'S FINE.

UM, IF THEY REJECT IT ALL AND WANNA STAY WITH THE WHAT WE'VE GOT, THAT'S A RESPONSE.

UM, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN BETWEEN AND IF THERE'S SOME OTHER, UH, COMPROMISES OR, YOU KNOW, LIKING ONE CONCEPT, BUT NOT SURE THAT THIS LANGUAGE IS WHAT WOULD BE BEST, THEN THAT CAN BE CHANGED AND IT CAN BE WORKED OUT.

UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A FINAL, IF A, IF AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOU IS IN THE OFFING, THEN IT WILL TAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE, UM, RATIFICATION BY BOTH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND THIS BODY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE SIGNATOR TO THE MOU ALSO INCLUDE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS, UM, WITH A SET OF REVISIONS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO BACK, YOU KNOW, PUT IT INTO THE, THE DISTRICT'S COURT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

YES.

IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MR. BUCKMAN.

UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION, UM, TO MR. TCHAIKOVSKY'S COMMENT ABOUT THAT THE BOARD, UM, DOESN'T MAKE THEIR OWN AGENDA, BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE MAKES THEIR OWN AGENDA.

WHAT, IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT WHEN WE'RE SENDING THIS TO THE BOARD, IT'S NOT TO GO ON THEIR AGENDA, IT'S JUST FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW INTERNALLY.

CORRECT.

AND THEN IF TWO WERE TO TAKE IT ON, THEN THEY WOULD, TWO BOARD MEMBERS WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

CORRECT? WE, WE DON'T INSTRUCT THEM HOW TO RUN THEIR MEETINGS OR WHAT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA OR HOW TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

EVERY, UM, RESOLUTION THAT THIS COMMITTEE PASSES, WE HAVE A PROPOSED BOARD REPORT THAT GOES WITH IT.

BUT HOW THAT GOT ON THE AGENDA, UM, USUALLY IS THE SUPERINTENDENT THAT THAT PUTS THAT ON.

SO THAT'S UP TO THEM.

UM, THIS IS BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

SO IF THE SUPERINTENDENT SHOWS NOT TO, UM, EVER PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN UNLESS TWO BOARD MEMBERS ACCORDING TO THEIR PROCESS AS MR. KOSKI, UM, MENTIONED, IT WOULD NEVER GET ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MR. CAMPBELL? I, I JUST WANNA REMARK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY THANKFUL TO STAFF, UH, TO MR. HAMNER FOR HIS EFFORTS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, UH, IN, IN TRYING TO MOVE, UH, THE MOU REVISIONS FORWARD.

THIS IS, IS AND REALLY SHOULD BE A MINISTERIAL TASK.

THIS, THIS DOCUMENT DESCRIBES, UM, AND PROVIDE STRUCTURE AROUND THE RESOURCES THAT I, I BELIEVE THE LAW, THE ED CODE REQUIRES THE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE IN SUPPORT OF THE BOC AND FORMALIZES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DISTRICT, SO THAT THAT'S AS CONSTRUCTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, I, I THINK THE, FROM MY READING OF THEM, THE CHANGES ARE, ARE LARGELY, UH, CLARIFYING IN NATURE.

AND, AND THEY ADDRESS NOT ONLY THE, UM, EMERGENCE OF, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEW BOND MEASURE, BUT AS MR. BUCKMAN MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UH, SINCE THE LAST ROUND OF REVISIONS.

I I ALSO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE, UH, IN THE WAY THAT IT'S STRUCTURED.

UM, 15 2 80, THE ED CODE EXPRESSLY STATES THAT THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE DISTRICT, UM, SHALL PROVIDE THE CITIZENS' OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WITH NECESSARY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, SHALL PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE AND SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO PUBLICIZE THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

SO, UM, IT SEEMS WHOLLY APPROPRIATE THAT THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH DESCRIBES THAT RELATIONSHIP AND, UH, THE, THE MANNER AND AND EXTENT OF THOSE RESOURCES, UM, IS, IS APPROPRIATELY SENT TO THEM.

THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER IT, UH, AND TO HEAR FROM US DIRECTLY.

SO, UM, I'M, AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE EFFORTS OF, OF THE STAFF AND THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS IN THE PAST.

AND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UH, MINE ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSONAL.

I, I AM DISAPPOINTED.

I'M, I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED, UM, AT THE LACK OF EVEN ATTENDANCE BY THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT I'VE BEEN INTRODUCED TO THAT, UM, WERE TO RESPOND BACK TO ME OVER THE LAST YEAR OF MY EFFORTS AND MEETING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT'S

[00:25:01]

OFFICE.

EVEN AS WE WERE READING THE, UH, THE DETAILS AND YOU PRESENTED, UH, MR. BUCKMAN THE, UH, CONTENT AND PURPOSE.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A LACK OF ENTHUSIASM OR EVEN ATTENTION EVEN FROM OUR AUDIENCE.

UM, I, IT, IT ONLY, I LIVE IN THE WORLD OF, UH, PERCEPTION IS REALITY.

AND WHEN YOU ALLOW SOMETHING TO, UH, EVOLVE LIKE THIS HAS, MY PERCEPTION IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT BEING FAIRLY, UM, CONSIDERED AS AN ENTIRE ENTITY.

MY, MY APPOINTMENT TO THIS BOARD AND MY ASCENSION TO THIS POSITION HERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF TRYING TO WORK AS A, UH, COLLABORATIVE ENVIRONMENT.

I'VE DONE THAT.

I'VE REACHED OUT WITH MUCH OF THE, UH, FACILITY STAFF.

I'VE HAD ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, PRIORITIES SEEM TO TRUMP, UM, A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS HERE.

AND I, I JUST CAN'T FATHOM WHY THIS HAS JUST CONTINUED TO JUST LANGUISH BEHIND OTHER PRIORITIES.

YES, I, I GET THE BOND MEASURE, I GOT THE FIRES, BUT THIS IS TWO YEARS PLUS IN THE MAKING, AND WE'RE JUST IGNORED.

SO UNLIKE MY, MY TEAM MEMBER HERE THAT, UH, ELOQUENTLY I ESTABLISHES IN A MORE DIPLOMATIC FASHION, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE MOU IS AND SO FORTH.

MY PURPOSE HERE NOW IS TO SAY, WHAT THE HECK GUYS, JUST GET THIS DONE.

AT LEAST GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE ZERO, AND I'M NOW BEING PERSONALLY PASSED ON FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF SUPERINTENDENT STAFF.

AND WHO'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH THIS WITH NO FOLLOW UP.

SO HERE WE ARE, WE SAY IT'S TWO YEARS.

IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS.

WE STARTED THIS MOU PROCESS BACK IN MAY OF 2023.

HERE WE ARE COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER.

NEXT MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'RE TALKING TWO YEARS PLUS FOUR MONTHS, TWO YEARS PLUS.

WHAT? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'M HOPING WE'VE ALL GOTTEN A COPY OF IT, AND WE'VE TAKEN THIS APPROACH BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BEING HEARD, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE HERE, UH, TO CONSIDER THIS AND TO HAVE THIS NOW PASSED ON TO NOT ONLY THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE, BUT AS NOTED TO THE OTHER EX SIGNATOR.

AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM.

AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ABSOLUTELY DUMB QUESTION.

AND I SAID I WASN'T GONNA TALK.

UM, I'M READING THAT THE BOARD SHALL APPOINT ONE MEMBER WHO IS ACTIVE IN AND NOMINATED BY CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, RETIRED AXA RA SENIOR CITIZENS ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE NOT, WE ARE A RETIRED AT SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS ORGANIZATION.

HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE? HMM.

YEAH.

YOUR ORGANIZATION WAS CHOSEN THROUGH A PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE ARE IS AN ERROR.

WELL, THE, UH, YOU ARE A RETIRED ADMINISTRATORS YES.

ASSOCIATION, BUT WE'RE, AND WE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT RETIRED SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, UH, I'LL USE THE WORD TRUMP'S THE, UH, DESCRIPTION.

WELL, THE, THE MENTION IN THE DESCRIPTION OF SENIOR CITIZENS ORGANIZATION IS IN THE STATE STATUTE THAT ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS TO BE FROM A SENIOR CITIZENS ORGANIZATION.

NOW, THERE'S NO DEFINITION IN THE STATUTE OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A SENIOR CITIZENS ORGANIZATION AGE.

IT'S NOT IN THE STATUTE.

IT DOESN'T SAY AGE, JUST SAYS SENIOR.

UM, WHAT IS A SENIOR, UM, IN SOME PARTS OF THE CODE, IT'S 60 YEARS OR OLDER.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN CHANGE THIS, BECAUSE THE STATUTE LIST.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME CRITERIA.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

I THINK IT'S BEEN VETTED THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION QUALIFIES, AND WE DON'T DOUBT THAT.

BUT YES, WE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE RETIRED SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE, LET ME LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE.

IT'S ON PAGE TWO, 3.1, 0.2.

AND I KNOW I'M BEING PICKY.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING PICKY.

UM, I THINK WE ALL DO THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE A SENIOR CITIZEN ORGANIZATION

[00:30:01]

IS FROM THE STATUTE.

UM, IF IT'S FROM THE STATUTE, THEN I'LL SHUT UP.

YEAH, WELL, I'LL BE SHUT UP.

I'M NOT, I'M, I'M SHUTTING UP.

I'M ASKING YOU TO, BUT, BUT IT IS IN THE STATUTE THAT, THAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR, AND IT'S ONE OF THE MANDATORY ONES.

YOU KNOW, UH, THERE, THIS COMMITTEE WAS DEVELOPED WITH MORE MEMBERS THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE TO, TO GIVE IT A BROADER, UH, BUY-IN, YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, MORE STAKEHOLDERS IN WHAT IT DOES.

BUT THE STATUTE DEVELOPED BY THE STATE HAS, I BELIEVE, FIVE THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AND A SENIOR CITIZENS ORGANIZATION, A TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION.

OKAY.

ARE THOSE, AND SO ARE AMONG THOSE.

SO IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I MEAN, WE CAN, I'M JUST, WE'RE, THIS IS JUST THE OPENING SALVOS OR, YOU KNOW, OPENING DIALOGUE.

NO, IT'S, I'LL SHUT UP.

THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU.

WELL, WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MS. BESS? YEAH.

AYE, GOOD MORNING.

UM, I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN GIVE JUST A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF THE LAST TIME THE MOU WAS UPDATED, THE PROCESS AND THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT TOOK, UM, MAYBE FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE NEWER, UM, OR JUST AS A COMPARISON OF WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKED LIKE THE LAST TIME.

AND WAS THAT 2017? YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2017, LIKE I BELIEVE IN APRIL OF 2017.

AND THERE WAS OF COURSE, A LONG PROCESS, UH, LEADING UP TO THAT.

IT HAD LAST BEEN AMENDED PRIOR TO THAT IN 2011.

UM, SO IN 2017, AS I RECALL THE PROCESS, IT WORKED AS IT HAD IN, IN THE PRIOR REVISIONS.

AND THAT WAS, THERE WAS A TASK FORCE, ESSENTIALLY, UM, OF MEMBERS, INTERESTED MEMBERS AND BOC STAFF.

AND THERE WAS ALSO AN ACTIVE, UH, COMPLIMENT OF DISTRICT STAFF.

UM, THERE WAS NO BOARD MEMBER INVOLVED IN, IN THAT, THOSE, UH, DISCUSSIONS, THOSE, UH, MEETINGS.

BUT DISTRICT STAFF, OF COURSE, WAS REPORTING UP TO THE THEN SUPERINTENDENT.

UH, AND I BELIEVE THE SUPERINTENDENT HAD A REPRESENTATIVE.

UM, THE, THERE WAS SOMEBODY FROM THE, UM, OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL, UH, THAT WAS INVOLVED AND FACILITIES OF COURSE.

AND THERE WERE MEETINGS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND LANGUAGE WAS, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT.

AND WE, I THINK AT THAT POINT WE WERE IN A ROOM WITH A NICE PROJECTOR AND WE HAD A RED LINE AND WE WERE EDITING AND THROWING CHANGES UP, YOU KNOW, AND WORKING IT OUT.

AND THEN WHEN WE THOUGHT WE HAD A PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF WENT UP TO THE HIGHER UPS AT THE DISTRICT AND MAYBE IT GOT SOME COMMENTS BACK DOWN.

UM, BUT THEN EVENTUALLY, UH, LIKE A SUMMIT WAS, WAS MADE AND, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THIS BODY, UH, THE COMMITTEE, UH, MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

IT WAS, IT WAS SHOWN TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

'CAUSE THEY HAD, THEY, NOT EVERYBODY HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE, UH, DRAFTING PROCESS.

'CAUSE THAT WASN'T POSSIBLE.

UM, AND WE HELD A MEETING WHERE WE COULD, AND WE COULD DO THAT TODAY IF WE WANTED TO, AND GO THROUGH AND MAKE WORDSMITH THIS DOCUMENT.

AND THAT WAS OFFERED TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN IT WAS VOTED ON AND, AND WENT OVER TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, BOARD OF EDUCATION.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF ANY CHANGES WERE MADE, MAYBE ONE OR TWO.

UM, AND THEN IT CAME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE ADOPTED THAT.

AND SO IT ALL CAME TOGETHER IN APRIL OF 2017.

BUT IT WAS A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.

AND SO THEN THIS TIME IT WAS THE AMENDMENTS AND UPDATING AND CHANGING WAS NOT A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I MEAN, SO, SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, THIS WAS, THIS IS JUST OURS, OC OKAY.

JUST OUR STAFF AND, UH, THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE, IN THE TASK FORCE AND THEN, UM, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE, SO WAS THERE AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS? YES.

I MEAN THIS, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE DIFFERENCE.

THIS, THESE ARE, THESE ARE REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK THE DEFINITION OF PROCESS IS COLLABORATION.

AND IT'S BEEN ONE, IT'S BEEN A ONE WAY WE'VE DELIVERED ON OUR

[00:35:01]

SIDE AND HAVE BEEN WAITING NOW FOR THIS TWO PLUS YEARS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR ANY OTHER MEMBERS? OKAY.

SO WE'VE, UH, WE'VE ADDRESSED IT AGAIN, WE WILL SEE IF THIS GRABS ANY TRACTION AND MOVES FORWARD.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS, UH, PRESENTED? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AND, UH, TRANSMITTED AS INDICATED BY MR. BUCKMAN, UH, MOTION BY MEMBER CAMPBELL.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

I SECOND.

OH.

OH SECOND.

WHO'S THAT AS MILLER.

BEVIN AS MILLER.

I'M HAPPY TO SECOND.

OKAY.

DR.

ASH MILLER.

OKAY.

UH, POPE JOY, CAN YOU ASK FOR A CALL? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION RELATED TO AN UPDATED SET OF REVISIONS TO THE BOC CHARTER AND MOU DR. CHEN MILLER.

AYE.

THANK YOU MS. BELL.

AYE.

THANK YOU MS. BETS.

AYE.

AND CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT, UM, THAT I NOTICED WHEN I WAS REVIEWING, THERE'S JUST, IT'S A SMALL TYPO ON SECTION 9.2 , SO NOTED.

UM, YES.

WE'LL MAKE ANY TYPO CORRECTIONS.

OKAY.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MS. LURKIN MUELLER.

AYE.

THANK YOU, MS. LEWIS.

AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? AYE.

MR. ROSS? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MCFARLAND.

AYE.

MR. CAMPBELL? AYE.

AND MR. HAMNER, AYE, RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED WITH 10 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND THANK YOU MR. BUCKMAN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK,

[1. Public Comment (Part 2 of 2)]

UM, TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, UM, PUBLIC OR ITEM NUMBER ONE, ACTUALLY PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS IS HERE.

STAFF? YES.

UM, UM, NUMBER ENDING IN 82 67.

UM, YOU SIGN UP FOR COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ONE ITEM.

CAN YOU HEAR US? MS. FUENTES? HI, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

HI.

GOOD MORNING.

YES, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO, UM, THE REASON I'M COMING ON HERE IS MY NAME IS ES AND I'M ACTUALLY THE CITY SECRETARY FOR, UM, THE HUNTING PARKS, YOUTH AND FOOTBALL SPORTS, UM, PROGRAM.

AND ALSO AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER.

UM, THE REASON I CAME ON THIS CALL IS BECAUSE JUST TO KIND OF ADVOCATE AND JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE WHOLE REASONING OF PUTTING TURF, UH, GRASS ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD WOULD BE, AND WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF PUTTING GRASS VERSUS HAVING THE TURF.

I FEEL LIKE HAVING THE TURF NOT ONLY HELPS OUT WITH A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND THE USAGE THAT THE FIELD GETS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, UM, VERSUS TO THE MAINTENANCE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO KEEP UP ONCE IT BECOMES GRASS.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANNA GET OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOUR THINKING PROCESS IS FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS THE CHAIR, UH, MICHAEL HAMNER.

WE DON'T NORMALLY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS, WE JUST ALLOW YOU TO, TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN, UH, CONSIDER IT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

GO AHEAD, MR. CAMPBELL.

UH, CHAIR HAMMER.

COULD WE, UM, IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT, GET CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, FOR THIS MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND, UH, ASK SOMEONE FROM THE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE AND THAT THAT RELATES BACK TO THE PROJECT PLANNING PROCESS THAT SELECTED THIS TYPE OF TURF.

GOOD REPLY.

YEAH.

WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU? THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SURE.

THAT TOTALLY WORKS FOR ME.

I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS SEE THE PROS AND THE CONS OF HAVING ACTUAL GRASS VERSUS HAVING TURF, WHICH IS A LITTLE LOWER MAINTENANCE.

I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY YOU GUYS ON, UM, BUDGET PLANNINGS FOR THIS.

SO I APPRECIATE ANY, ANY RETURN OR CALL BACK.

NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT, UH, TO CONTRIBUTE.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

OKAY, THANKS.

BYE-BYE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE BACK TO OUR, UM, STAFF.

I, I, I SAW THE CONFIRMATION, YOU, YOU'LL FOLLOW UP.

UM, WE'LL GET BACK ONTO OUR AGENDA HERE.

NOW WE'RE AT, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THIS

[4. Seven Projects to Provide Critical Replacements and Upgrades of School Building/Site Systems and Components and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein]

IS, UH, RELATED TO SEVEN CRITICAL REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADE PROJECTS.

THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY MR. MARK CHO, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, UM, MR.

[00:40:01]

HAMNER, MEMBERS OF THE BOC.

GOOD MORNING.

YOU CAN TELL WE'VE BEEN BUSY LAST TWO MONTHS PREPARING FOR THIS PROJECT.

L MILLER, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.

YOU'RE JOINING THE BEST BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

HE'S, HE'S VERY CHARMING.

YES, .

SO WE HAVE SEVEN PROJECTS TO PROPOSE TODAY.

FOUR ROOFING PROJECTS, ONE STONEWATER RETENTION TANK REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AND TWO SYNTHETIC TURF AND TRACK REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.

THE TOTAL COMBINED PROJECT VALUE IS LITTLE OVER $36 MILLION.

AND I HAVE DETAILED SLIDE FOR EACH PROJECT.

SENEGAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LOCATED NEAR I 10 IN THE WEST SIDE OF LA, OPENED IN 1924.

THE AGE OF ROOF IS NEARING 30 YEARS.

WE WILL REPLACE ABOUT 44,000 SQUARE FEET OF DETERIORATED ROOFING CAMPUS WIDE.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE FOUR ROOFING PROJECTS THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COST AT THIS SITE IS ABOUT $49, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST, HIGHEST AMONG THE FOUR.

IT'S BECAUSE TWO OF THE BUILDINGS HAVE MANY ROOFTOP HVAC UNITS THAT REQUIRE MORE SOPHISTICATED ROOFING WORK.

TOTAL PROJECT VALUE IS ABOUT $2.13 MILLION.

SINCE IT'S NOT THE DSA PROJECT AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A DESIGN, WE CAN START IN QUARTER TWO OF 2026 AND COMPLETE QUARTER FOUR OF 2026.

LOS ANGELES CENTER FOR ENRICHES STUDIES OPENED IN 1937, GRADES SIX THROUGH 12.

THESE ROOFINGS ARE AS ALMOST 30 YEARS OLD AS WELL.

AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, THIS IS THE LARGEST ROOFING PROJECTS AMONG FOUR AT ALMOST $5 MILLION COVERING 124,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S A BIG SCHOOL.

THEREFORE, BECAUSE OF ITS SCALE, THE PROJECT WILL LIKELY HAVE THE LOWEST SQUARE FOOTAGE COST.

WE ARE ESTIMATING CURRENTLY AT $40.

WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTION AGAIN IN QUARTER TWO OF 2026 AND COMPLETE BY QUARTER ONE OF 2027.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

AT MANHATTAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE ARE REPLACING 60 62,400 SQUARE FEET DETERIORATE ROOFING.

THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS APPROXIMATELY $2.8 MILLION.

SCHOOL OPENED IN 1950.

AGE OF ROOF IS OVER 25 YEARS OLD.

SQUARE FOOTAGE COST IS AT $45.

THE LAST ONE IS AT HAYES CHARTER FOR ENRICHED STUDIES.

IT'S AN AFFILIATED CHARTER SCHOOL OPENED IN 1961.

IT'S A K THROUGH FIVE SCHOOL.

THE PROJECT COST IS LITTLE LESS THAN $2 MILLION FOR 45,300 SQUARE FEET.

SQUARE FOOTAGE.

COST IS AT $44.

NEXT ONE IS VERY INTERESTING PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT WILL REPLACE A COLLAPSED STORM WATER RETENTION TANK AT WALL PARK.

MIDDLE SCHOOL SLIDES ARE SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE TANK AND THE FENCED OFF AREA ON THE RIGHT SIDE FOR THE SAFETY.

STONEWATER RETENTION TANKS PLAY A CRUCIAL ROLE IN SUSTAINABLE WATER MANAGEMENT BY CONTROLLING WATER AND FLOOD PREVENTION AND PROTECTING WATER QUALITY FOR POLLUTION CONTROL AND PROVIDING VALUABLE WATER RESOURCE FOR VARIOUS USES.

DEPENDING ON THE MATERIAL USED FOR THE RETENTION TANK, THOSE RETENTION TANK CAN LAST FOR SEVERAL DECADES

[00:45:01]

BETWEEN 2250 YEARS.

THIS RETENTION TANK COLLAPSED AT AGE 14 LAST YEAR.

AND I HAVE A, I READ THE REPORT, I DID A LOT OF STUDY ON THIS SITE AND THERE'S A REASON WHY IT COLLAPSED.

IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD A SEVERE STORM IN 2024.

THE HEAVY RAINFALL IN FEBRUARY, 2024 DUMPED NINE INCHES OF RAIN IN THREE DAYS.

IT RECORDED AS THE SECOND WETTEST SECOND HEAVIEST RAINY THREE DAY PERIOD IN THE LA HISTORY.

SINCE 1877.

1877 IS WHEN LA STARTED RECORDING RAINFALL.

THE GROUND WAS EXTREMELY SATURATED.

THE SUPER SATURATION IN THE SOIL ADDED A SIGNIFICANT STATIC WEIGHT ABOVE THE ROTATION TANK THAT CAUSED THE COLLAPSE.

THE PROJECT IS TO RELOCATE TO REPLACE THE COLLAPSED RETENTION TANK AND ITS ASSOCIATED PARTS, PUMPS AND OTHER PARTS.

THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $1.7 MILLION AND WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTION IN QUARTER ONE OF 2026 AND COMPLETE BY QUARTER FOUR OF 2026.

DESIGN IS DONE.

UH, WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT TANK COLLAPSED LAST, UH, SPRING, WE IMMEDIATELY, UH, FRONT FUNDED WITH RMA FUNDING AND PROCEEDED WITH THE DESIGN.

DESIGN IS JUST DONE NOW.

WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN DO THE CONSTRUCTION.

BEFORE I PRESENT NEXT TWO PROJECTS, OUR CFE MS. CHRISTINA TOS WANTS TO ADDRESS TO THE BOC ABOUT OUR PROJECTS.

CHRISTINA, CAN I ASK THE TALKING POINTS THAT I GAVE YOU? YOU GUYS HAVE COMPETING BINDERS.

, WE, WE DON'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT BINDERS.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

BOC CHAIR, UH, BOC MEMBERS AND WELCOME CHARLOTTE MEYER.

VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD.

UM, I WANTED TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF USE IN THE BIG PICTURE OF THE DISTRICT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DETAIL OF THESE TWO SYNTHETIC TURF REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.

BECAUSE I KNOW THE USE OF SYNTHETIC TURF HAS, UH, GENERATED DISCUSSION AND CONCERN NOT ONLY FOR L-A-U-S-D BUT OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT ON THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL.

SO I WANTED TO JUST START WITH LETTING YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE SYNTHETIC TURF IS USED FOR THE DISTRICT.

FOR THE MOST PART, WHEN WE BRING PROJECTS FOR YOU, THEY'RE AT, UM, COMPETITIVE ATHLETIC FIELDS, FOOTBALL, SOCCER, AND THEN RUBBERIZED TRACK.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF, WE DO HAVE SOME BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE SYNTHETIC TURF.

SO THE DISTRICT HAS APPROXIMATELY 72 HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC FOOTBALL.

SOCCER FIELDS.

OF THOSE 60% ARE NATURAL GRASS AND 40% ARE SYNTHETIC TURF.

WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF SMALL DISCRETE PIECES OF SYNTHETIC TURF THAT WERE PUT IN AT EARLY EDUCATION CENTERS MANY YEARS AGO.

WHEN WE DO OUR OUTDOOR EXPLORER CLASSROOMS, FOR THE MOST PART, WE REMOVE THOSE, REPLACE 'EM WHEN WE'RE DOING THE ENTIRE NEW, UM, OUTDOOR LEARNING ENVIRONMENT PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE'RE A COUPLE OF MIDDLE SCHOOL OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WHERE WE PUT IN SYNTHETIC TURF BECAUSE WE RECEIVED EITHER OUTSIDE FUNDING PROP K FUNDING FROM THE CITY, WHICH ALLOWED FOR EXPANDED USE OF THOSE FIELDS.

BUT FOR THESE PURPOSES TODAY I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF AT ATHLETIC COMPETITIVE FIELDS.

SO THESE TWO PROJECTS FOLLOW WHAT IS THE CURRENT DISTRICT POLICY, WHICH IS DISTRICT POLICY BULLETIN 68 47.

I THINK A COPY WAS LINKED TO THIS BOARD REPORT.

AND ESSENTIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THESE PROJECTS, WHAT THAT POLICY SAYS IS THAT IF A SCHOOL HAS AN EXISTING SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD IN A HIGH USAGE AREA, IT WILL BE REPLACED WITH A NEW SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD.

UM, AND BECAUSE THESE ARE BOTH ATHLETIC FIELDS, THEY QUALIFY AS HIGH USAGE AREAS.

THEY SERVE NOT ONLY PE CLASSES, MULTIPLE SPORTS TEAMS, BUT ALSO COMMUNITY GROUPS.

AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT THE CALIFORNIA CIVIC CENTER PERMIT ACT REQUIRES THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAKE THEIR AVAILABLE AT CIVIC CENTERS FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.

FOR REGULAR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ARE NOT WHEN THE SCHOOL IS NOT USING THOSE FIELDS.

UM, WHICH INCREASES FIELD USAGE DEMAND, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'LL GET INTO.

SO WHEN THE DISTRICT CONSIDERS THE USE OF SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD BACK WHEN WE WERE FIRST

[00:50:01]

PUTTING IN, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, ITEMS THAT WE CONSIDER.

THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS SAFETY.

UM, THEN IT IS MAINTENANCE, UH, USAGE COST, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UM, THE SOURCES OF FUNDING AVAILABLE AND ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT AND ALL OF THEM KIND OF FEED INTO EACH OTHER.

SO I'M GONNA JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EACH OF THOSE.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SAFETY, UM, AND WE BOTH LOOKED AT, UH, DISTRICT STATISTICS AND THEN KIND OF WHAT IS THE RESEARCH SAYING ABOUT SAFETY OF SYNTHETIC TURFS VERSUS NATURAL TURFS? UM, I'M GONNA CITE KIND OF THE OVERARCHING STATEMENT, UM, THAT WE WERE PROVIDED BY.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT LOOKING AT THIS THAT SAYS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ANALYZING 22 STUDIES FOUND LITTLE TO NO DIFFERENCE IN OVERALL INJURY INCIDENTS BETWEEN SYNTHETIC AND NATURAL TURF FIELDS.

ONE OF THE KEY INSIGHTS IS MOST INJURIES APPROXIMATELY 41 TO 81% ARE DUE TO PLAYER TO PLAYER CONTACT, NOT PLAYER TO SURFACE CONTACT.

AND THAT THERE IS CONTRADICTORY EVIDENCE EXISTS ACROSS THE MULTIPLE TYPES OF STUDIES THAT WERE DONE.

UM, SOME STUDIES SHOW A HIGHER INJURY RATE ON SYNTHETIC TURF.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY FOR NFL DATA THAT SHOWS 28% HIGHER NON-CONTACT, LOWER EXTREMITY INJURIES.

OTHER STUDIES SHOW LOWER INJURY RATES ON SYNTHETIC TURF AND MANY STUDIES SHOW EQUIVALENT INJURY RATES.

BUT WE KNOW, AND THE REPORT ALSO EMPHASIZED THAT THE PROPER MAINTENANCE OF THESE FIELDS IS ESSENTIAL FOR SAFETY REGARDLESS OF THE TURF TYPE.

SO WE CAN HAVE BOTH EXAMPLES AT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT OF IF YOU HAVE A NEW SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD, UM, THAT MIGHT BE MORE SAFE THAN AN OLD EXISTING GRASS FIELD THAT IS POCKETED WITH GOPHER HOLES AND THE GRASS IS REALLY ERODED AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BOUNCE.

SIMILARLY, YOU CAN HAVE AN OLD SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD WHERE THE CARPET IS FLAPPING UP AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TRIP HAZARDS OR YOU'VE DEGRADED THE FILL ENOUGH THAT YOU DON'T PASS A BOUNCE TEST AND THAT WILL BE MORE, UM, A UNSAFE THAN A BRAND NEW GRASS FIELD.

SO HOW WE MAINTAIN THESE FIELDS, UM, OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THEM, THEIR CONDITION CAN PLAY A LOT INTO WHAT THE INJURY STATISTICS ARE, BUT ALSO THE NATURE OF INJURIES AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT STUDENT TO STUDENT BEING HURT.

AND THEN THE LACK OF, UM, INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THE NATURE OF THOSE INJURIES AND CAUSE LEASES TO CONCLUDE THAT WE REALLY HAVE NO ABILITY TO SAY THAT THERE IS ONE THAT IS MORE SAFE THAN THE OTHER.

ALL THESE FILLS ARE REVIEWED BY THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY.

UM, SO THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED UNSAFE FOR STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE ON.

AND MARK CAN TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THAT WE USE.

UM, SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS HAVE VERY MUCH EVOLVED AS A BUILDING SYSTEM OVER THE LAST DECADES AND WHAT STARTED AS USING WHAT RECYCLED TIRES, UM, OR RUBBER TO VIRGIN OF TO NOW WALNUT SHELLS.

THERE'S BEEN A RANGE OF MATERIALS THAT WE USE ALWAYS TRYING TO BALANCE SAFETY, UM, WITH MAINTENANCE.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT USAGE, UM, L-A-U-S-D IS KIND OF WHAT WE CALL IN THE EXTREME CATEGORY OF FIELD HOURS USED.

AS I WAS MENTIONING, OUR FIELDS ARE USED FOR PE CLASSES, COMPETITIVE SPORTS TEAMS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ON WEEKENDS.

SO WE SEE A VERY HIGH USAGE OF OUR FIELDS.

THERE'S ALMOST NO DOWNTIME.

WE KNOW THAT SYNTHETIC TURF PROVIDES MORE USABLE HOURS THAN GRASS FIELDS.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE DOWNTIME FROM RECEDING OR HAVING LET A FIELD REST AFTER IT'S RECEDED.

UM, AND WE KNOW NATURAL TURF DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE IS ALSO NO WEATHER RECOVERY AFTER RAIN EVENTS FOR SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS AND IT'S LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

ALSO, WHEN WE LOOK AT MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GENERAL FUNDED AND WE CAN'T USE BOND FUNDS TO MAINTAIN AND WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE PROBABLY A DECREASE OF OVERALL GENERAL FUNDS THAT WILL IMPACT THE DISTRICT'S MAINTENANCE FUNDS.

THAT SYNTHETIC TURF MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE LOWER THAN NATURAL TURF MAINTENANCE OVER THE EXTENDED PERIOD.

AND IF YOU JUST THINK OF THE TIME IT TANKS TO GROOM A GRASS FIELD VERSUS A SYNTHETIC TURF, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT ALSO REQUIRES LESS WATER.

THAT'S ALSO A UTILITY EXPENSE IN OUR GENERAL FUND.

NOT TO SAY THAT SYNTHETIC TURF DOESN'T REQUIRE WATER, WE KNOW IT GETS VERY HOT.

IT REQUIRES IT TO BE, UM, WATERED DOWN BEFORE USE, UM, ESPECIALLY IN, UH, SUMMER OR HOT

[00:55:01]

TEMPERATURES ON ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT SYNTHETIC TURF IS NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY IN THE WAY THAT NATURAL TURF IS.

UM, WE HAVE SYNTHETIC TURF, UM, CARRIES FOREVER CHEMICALS WHEN WE HAVE TO REMOVE THEM AND REPLACE IT.

UM, THOUGH WE ENCOURAGE OUR CONTRACTORS TO RECYCLE IT, WE'RE TOLD BY OUR CONTRACTORS THAT IT IS NOT, UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY A MARKET TO RECYCLE SYNTHETIC TURF.

UM, AND UH, IT'S ALSO HAS AN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

SO BECAUSE UNLIKE NATURAL TURF, IT IS HOTTER AND IT DOES CREATE A HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT KIND OF WHERE, UH, WHAT ARE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOING, UH, UNIVERSITIES, L-A-C-C-D, THE CITY OF LA UM, NONE OF THOSE AGENCIES HAVE BANNED SYNTHETIC TURF.

UM, WE KNOW OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, SANTA MONICA MALIBU, HERMOSA VISTA SCHOOL DISTRICT, LONG BEACH, PASADENA, BURBANK, CULVER CITY ALSO CONTINUE TO NOT ONLY REPLACE NATURAL TURF WITH SYNTHETIC TURF, BUT ALSO REPLACE EXISTING SYNTHETIC TURF WITH EXISTING, UM, WITH NEW REPLACEMENT SYNTHETIC TURF.

AND THEN WE GO INTO THE COLOR OF MONEY.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING BOND FUNDS, WHICH WE CAN USE TO REPLACE SYNTHETIC TURF BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED A DEPRECIABLE CAPITAL, UM, UH, PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE UNLIKE GRASS.

SO IF WE, UM, ARE COMING TO REPLACE A SYNTHETIC TURF, WE CAN COME TO THE UH, BOC AND THE BOARD TO ALLOCATE BOND FUNDS TO REPLACE IT.

IF WE'RE WE'RE SIMPLY RETTING TURF, LIKE ROLLING OUT GRASS, THAT IS NOT A BOND FUNDABLE EXPENSE IN AND OF ITSELF.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY QUESTIONS MARK IS GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UM, PROJECTS, BUT I DID WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT THE DISTRICT CONSIDER THESE CAREFULLY AND THESE PROJECTS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE DISTRICT'S CURRENT POLICY.

THANK YOU CHRISTINA.

FRED, MAYBE BEFORE YOU LEAVE THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS DIRECTLY.

MS. MCDOWELL ACTUALLY, DO YOU MIND IF UM, IF MARK PRESENTS 'CAUSE HE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS AND THEN THE TWO OF US CAN RESPOND TO BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS AND PROJECT QUESTIONS? YES.

OR I'LL ASK THE QUESTION AND THEN YOU LET ME KNOW.

I'M OPEN TO THAT.

YOU HAD JUST THE LAST STATEMENT YOU MENTIONED WAS THE COLOR OF MONEY.

YEAH.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, NATURAL TURF IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR BOND FUNDS.

UH, THEN WHICH, WHICH CATEGORY OF FUNDS IS IT ELIGIBLE FOR? IS IT GENERAL FUND OR IS IT ANYTHING ELSE? UM, IT'S MAINTENANCE IS GENERAL FUNDED.

OKAY.

UM, AND I SHOULD SAY THE RE RESORTING OF A FIELD.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU PULL OUT AND BASICALLY REMOVE ALL OF THE GRASS OR BECAUSE THERE'S, IT'S SO ERODED OR THERE ISN'T MUCH LEFT OF IT AND YOU COMPLETELY OT IT WHERE YOU KNOW, YOU BRING OUT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE GRASS CAR, REAL GRASS CARPET, .

UM, WHEN YOU PUT IN THE PROPER SOIL THAT UM, IT CAN GROW ON AERATE THAT SOIL, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT A BOND FUNDABLE EXPENSE.

IF WE WERE TO BUILD A BRAND NEW FIELD WITH GRASS THAT IS BOND FUNDABLE 'CAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE OF IRRIGATION A BASE LAYER GRASS AND WHATEVER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT A WHOLE FIELD.

BUT JUST REPLACING GRASS HAS TO COME OUT OF OUR MAINTENANCE FUNDS, REPLACING SYNTHETIC TURF CAN BE BOND FUNDABLE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

CHRISTINA.

BY THE WAY, THE NFL FIRST BUILT THE SYNTHETIC TURF IN 1968.

THAT WAS AT HOUSTON AS OME.

AND FOR L-A-E-S-D WE STARTED OUR PILOT PROGRAM IN 2005.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE OF HISTORY LATER.

SO FAIRFAX, THIS PROJECT IS TO REPLACE THE DETERIORATED EXISTING, NOT JUST SYNTHETIC TURF, BUT ALSO TRACK AND THE RELATED ATHLETIC APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT SUPPORTING HIGH JUMP, LONG JUMP, TRIPLE JUMP AND POLE VAULT.

THE SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD IS APPROXIMATELY AT FAIRFAX 98,400 SQUARE FEET FOR SOCCER AND FOOTBALL PLAYING.

AND THE SURROUNDING TRACK IS ABOUT 50,000 SQUARE FEET.

I'LL COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE.

THIS ATHLETIC FIELDS WAS BUILT IN 2013 AND HAS BEEN HEAVILY USED.

IN 2015, WE HAD A WARRANTY REPLACEMENT OF THE TURF.

I'LL EXPLAIN THAT.

[01:00:03]

THESE PICTURES ARE SHOWING HOW THE INFILL MATERIAL HAS BEEN FUSED OVER THE LONG YEARS, UH, OF USAGE BECOMING CONCRETE LIGHT SURFACE CAUSING UNSAFE PLANE CONDITION.

IF YOU WONDER ABOUT THOSE SHOES, I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT THOSE CLUMPS OF MELTED RUBBER IS STUCKING STUCKING ON THE, UH, BOTTOM OF THE SHOES.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU CAN SEE THAT OR NOT.

AND TOTAL PROJECT COST IS LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION FOR FAIRFAX.

AND WE CAN START THE CONSTRUCTION IN QUARTER TWO OF 2027 AND COMPLETE BY A QUARTER TWO OF 2028.

HUNTINGTON PARK HIGH SCHOOL IS IN SIMILAR CONDITION.

WE ARE REPLACING THE DETERIORATED EXISTING SYNTHETIC TURF AND TRACK FIELD AND OTHER RELATED, UH, EQUIPMENTS AND APPARATUS.

THIS FIELD HAS BEEN USED FOR 15 YEARS.

LET ME SHOW YOU THE CONDITION FIRST.

THE BLACK AGGREGATES YOU SEE ON THE TOP LEFT PICTURE ARE THE ONE THAT'S CALLED INFILL MATERIAL.

THE TURF FIBER, SYNTHETIC TURF FIBER HOLDS THE INFILL MATERIAL TO PROVIDE TRACK AND CUSHION.

PROBLEM IS NOT WITH A TUR CELL PROBLEM IS WITH THE INFILL MATERIAL.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS BEFORE THAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER CONDITION AT HUNTINGTON PARK.

IN 2005 WE DID A TESTING.

AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF.

SO WE TESTED ONE SMALL AREA JUST LIKE A CARPET ON PAVEMENT, PUT THE ASHER TURF, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, DIDN'T LAST AND HAD A LOT OF SAFETY PROBLEMS. THEN WE BROUGHT IN ASHER TURF AND THEY STARTED LAYING OUT THE ASHER TURF.

MOST OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IN THE OLD DAYS, THE CURRENT SYNTHETIC TURF HAS 10, 11 LAYERS.

TOP LAYERS IS EXTRA TURF WITH INFILL MATERIAL.

SO IN THE BEGINNING OF UH, THIS CONSTRUCTION, WE USED THE INFILL MATERIAL, IT'S CALLED REGAL FILL, IT'S CHINESE PRODUCT.

THEY WENT BANKRUPT, DIDN'T LAST LONG, BUT AT THE TIME WE WERE JUST LEARNING.

SO WE REPLACED THOSE WITH SOMETHING CALLED CHROME RUBBER.

CHROME RUBBER IS A PRODUCT FROM RECYCLED TIRES.

COST EFFECTIVE, IT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE STARTED USING THOSE AS A STANDARD INFILL MATERIAL.

THEN WORKING WITH OEHS, WE FOUND OUT THAT CHROME RUBBER HAS A LOT OF LEAD CONTENT FROM TIRES.

SO WE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED CHROME RUBBERS.

WE DON'T HAVE CHROME RUBBERS ANYMORE.

THAT STARTED USING SOMETHING CALLED EPDM.

IT'S A CHEM CHEMICAL WORD, BUT IT'S VIRGIN RUBBER LIKE CHRISTIAN I MENTIONED MOST EXPENSIVE INFILL MATERIAL.

NFL USE IT.

WE STARTED USING IT BUT IT DIDN'T WORK WITH US AGAIN, LIKE WE SHOWED YOU AT FAIRFAX, IT CLUMPS OVER THE YEARS.

IT MELTS AND CLUMPS AND ON YOUR SHOES IT BECOMES LIKE A CONCRETE NFL.

THE WAY THEY USE IT IS THEY USE IT ONLY ONCE AND THEY VACUUM ALL THIS INFO MATERIAL AND RECYCLE IT FOR THE NEXT GAME.

THEY SPRAY ANOTHER EPDM.

THAT'S HOW THEY DO IT.

UH, ALLEGIANT STADIUM IN LAS VEGAS.

THE NEW STADIUM ENDED UP TALKING TO THEM.

THAT'S HOW THEY DO IT.

EVERY TIME THEY PROVIDE NEW INFILL MATERIAL.

SOME CITIES IN LA THEY USED A SAND, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TODAY.

TODAY WE USE WALNUT SHELL OR PINEWOOD CHIPS.

THOSE ARE THE TWO PRODUCTS WE USE.

WE HAVE USED CORK IN THE PAST.

DIDN'T WORK OUT.

WE ARE ACTUALLY PIONEERING IN THIS FIELD AND ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CORK DIDN'T WORK OUT.

IT FLOATS.

WHEN IT RAINS, IT WASHES AWAY SO IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

SO WE USE THOSE, UH, WALNUT SHELL PARTICLES AND PINEWOOD PARTICLES.

THESE ARE NATURAL BIO DEGRADABLE PROVIDE COOLING TRACTION AND CUSHION.

SO THESE

[01:05:01]

ARE TWO LASD.

THE TWO MOST, TWO BEST INFO MATERIAL WE HAVE AGAIN, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO SYNTHETIC TURF, THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE DESIGN HAS EVOLVED SO LONG OVER THE PAST YEARS.

SO CURRENT DESIGN, IF WE ARE USING THE RIGHT INFILL MATERIAL, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL LAST LONGER THAN WHAT HAS SHOWN IN THE PAST.

SO HUNTINGTON PARK GOING BACK, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $12.5 MILLION.

JUST LIKE FAIRFAX IN HIGH SCHOOL.

THE CONSTRUCTION CAN START IN QUARTER TWO OF 2027 AND COMPLETE BY A QUARTER TWO OF 2028.

AS YOU CAN SEE CURRENTLY.

IF WE DON'T ACT RIGHT NOW, WE, IF MY MISSION AS MNO IS TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT THE PROGRAM AND KIDS ARE SAFE IN THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT, THAT IS MY MISSION.

UH, REPLACING BOTH FAIRFAX AND HUNTINGTON PARK WITH SYNTHETIC TURF IS THE BEST OPTION WE HAVE THAT MEETS THE CURRENT L-A-U-S-D POLICY.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MR. CHO.

IS THERE QUESTIONS FOR MR. CHO? YES.

ARE THERE PLANS BEING PUT INTO ACTION? 'CAUSE THE STUFF ISN'T SAFE NOW AND IT'S NOT GONNA START FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WHAT'S AN INTERIM PLAN? SO PLEASE DON'T GET HURT.

SO THOSE THAT YOU SEE, WE CONTINUOUSLY PATCH CONTINUOUSLY OUR M AND O MAINTENANCE'S OUT THERE.

SO IT'S BE A CONTINUING A CONTINUAL UH, REPAIR.

YES, MA'AM.

UNTIL THE REAL BIG STUFF.

YES MA'AM.

OKAY, THANKS.

OTHER QUESTIONS MR. MCFARLAND? I HAVE, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

UM, SO IN THE, WHEN YOU DESCRIBE A FIELD AS AS HIGH USE, WHERE ARE THOSE FIELDS LOCATED AND WHAT WOULD MAKE IT HIGH USE? IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL YEAR ROUND, NOT JUST FOOTBALL, BUT ALSO SOCCER, ALL YEAR ROUND SPORTS PROGRAM.

NOT ONLY THEY PLAY THE GAMES, UH, THEY PRACTICE ON THE TURF.

IF SOME SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THE FACILITY LIKE THIS THAT CAN LAST ALL YEAR ROUND, THEY VISIT OTHER SYNTHETIC TURF, UH, PLAY FIELD TO PRACTICE THEIR GAMES AS WELL.

SO IT'S HIGHLY USED, HEAVILY USED.

SO IS THE HIGH USE BECAUSE OF THE, THE SCHOOL USING THE FIELD OR THE CIVIC CENTER PERMIT? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

CIVIC CENTER PERMIT IS ANOTHER ONE.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THIS FACILITY BY CODE THAT CIVIC, UH, COMMUNITIES ARE ALSO UTILIZING AS WELL.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, SIR.

IS THERE OH, LIKE, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SEE ON WHERE THOSE PERMITS GO OUT TO AND WHAT TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THEIR REGISTRATION FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT MAYBE I CAN DIG UP SOME INFORMATION PROVIDE TO MR. TIM.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, FOR THE, THE DATA ON THE INJURIES, WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THOSE STUDIES RELATED TO HEAD INJURIES? I'VE SEEN, UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF HEAD INJURIES, BUT IN THE PAST I'VE SEEN SOME INJURY NOT LONG AGO ON ONE OF THE WORN OUT SYNTHETIC TURF AT THE HEAD OF A STUDENT FELL AND WE THOUGHT HE SPRAINED THE ANKLE, BUT ENDED UP FINDING OUT THAT HE ENDED UP HAVING A HIP SURGERY.

IT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CONDITION LIKE THIS.

IF THEY KEEP PLAYING LIKE THIS, IT IS UNSAFE.

SO LIKE I SAID, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE IMMEDIATELY FIX THE PROBLEM.

OKAY.

JUST A COUPLE MORE.

BACK TO THE CIVIC CENTER PERMITS.

IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO PASS ALONG THE COST OF THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IN THE, OF THE, OF A GRASS FIELD ONTO THE CIVIC CENTER PERMITS? DOES THAT NOT, IS THAT NOT A DIRECT COST? I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT WE CAN RESEARCH THAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN IT WOULD, WOULD IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR, FOR ME TO HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS FOR LIKE THE FAIRFAX FIELD.

THAT'S $12 MILLION.

RIGHT.

AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE $12 MILLION 10 YEARS FROM NOW, PROBABLY MORE.

AND THEN ANOTHER EIGHT TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, ANOTHER PROBABLY 14, 15 MILLION.

AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE OF, OF MAINTENANCE FOR A GRASS FIELD OVER THOSE 30 YEARS.

AND THEN THE COMPARISON OF WHERE THAT FUNDING WOULD COME FROM.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE LIKE OVER

[01:10:01]

THE 30 YEARS WHERE THE, WHERE THE, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE, MS. STOKES ANSWER PART OF IT, UH, WE BUILD IT, THE MAINTENANCE COMES FROM MAINTENANCE FUNDS NOT COMING DIRECTLY FROM BOND FUND, EVEN INCLUDING THE SYNTHETIC TURF.

I REMEMBER, UH, 15 YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD TO BUILD SYNTHETIC TURF, IT WAS $3 MILLION.

THAT WAS 15 YEARS AGO.

NOW IT'S $10 MILLION PRICE INCREASE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE COVID-19.

SO IT'S HARD TO PREDICT HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST 10 YEARS FROM TODAY.

HOWEVER, MAINTENANCE WISE, I WILL ASSURE YOU, MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR SYNTHETIC TUR IS MUCH LESS THAN GRASSFIELD.

AND IT COMES BOTH FROM OUR MAINTENANCE FUNDING.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SORRY, ONE, ONE IN THE, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS OR, OR WHAT THE, UM, THE PERSON WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IS ASKING, WHAT'S THE FINAL, WHAT'S THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS? HOW DO THEY DECIDE IS IT GONNA BE SYNTHETIC OTHER THAN WHAT, WHAT IT IS PREVIOUSLY? THE POLICY, CURRENT POLICY? I THINK MS TO TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, IF THERE'S A EXISTING COMPETITION, SYNTHETIC TURF, WE REPLACE LIFE PRO.

LIKE WE DON'T REPLACE THOSE WITH GRASS FIELD.

SO THAT'S THE POLICY.

THERE WAS A CASE, WE HAVE ANOTHER POLICY WRITTEN BY MR. HORA A LONG TIME AGO.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CONVERT THE GRASS FIELD TO THE SYNTHETIC TURF, UH, IT WILL BE A SHARED COST BOND CAN PROVIDE ONE THIRD AND SCHOOL AND BOARD MEMBER OR REGION CAN PROVIDE EACH ONE THIRD.

HOWEVER, IT HAS TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT CAN BENEFIT THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMUNITY CONVERTING THE GRASS FIELD TO SYNTHETIC TURF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

UH, WE, WE, I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE MORE, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, A QUESTION FROM ONLINE FROM, FROM, UH, DR.

ASHER MILLER.

UM, THANK YOU.

CAN YOU, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY TO BE ONLINE.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YEAH.

GREAT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK, UH, CHRISTINA TOS FOR HER TRANSPARENCY AROUND, UH, MAKING THIS CHOICE.

UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CANNOT USE BOND FUNDS TO PAY FOR, AND SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN USE BOND FUNDS TO PAY FOR.

SO I THINK THAT TRANSPARENCY AROUND THAT AND, UM, THE BOC CAN START TO, THIS IS NOT AN L-A-U-S-D ONLY PROBLEM.

IT IS A PROBLEM THAT FACES ALL SORT OF NATURE BASED POLICIES, AND I THINK IT CAUSES US TO POTENTIALLY MAKE NOT COST EFFECTIVE DECISIONS BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT BUCKET WE'RE TAKING FUNDS FROM.

UM, SO IT'S SORT OF A BIGGER PICTURE THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING PUBLICLY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT.

AND I, I AGREE THAT IT COULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US, UM, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT HAS GOT 72 ATHLETIC FIELDS AND WE HAVE BOTH TURF AND NATURAL GRASS.

AND IF WE COULD ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE, UH, WAY TO DO THIS, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT, GIVEN THAT WE KNOW THE DRAWBACKS, UM, OF SYNTHETIC TURF RELATED TO HEAT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, AND THERE IS SOME COMMENT, UM, IN THE, THE DRAFT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING THINGS, UM, UH, HA MARK IS THERE, UH, UH, MOVEMENT WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE TO THINK ABOUT HOW WHEN WE ARE DOING THESE REPLACEMENTS OF THE TURF FIELDS, UM, WHEN NECESSARY, CAN WE MITIGATE THE DRAWBACKS RELATED TO HEAT AND STORMWATER, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE, UM, ONLY GONNA INCREASE OVER THE NEXT DECADES.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

CAN WE, CAN WE, CAN WE COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PROTOCOL THAT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY OFFSETTING THE COSTS THAT ARE, UM, BEING PAID BY THE COMMUNITIES FROM THE INCREASED HEAT AND, UM, THE STORMWATER CHALLENGES? UH, THANK YOU BEVIN FOR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AS MARK WAS EX, UH, KIND OF CITING THE EVOLUTION OF SYNTHETIC TURF AS A SYSTEM OVER TIME, UM, HAS REALLY EVOLVED.

AND WE LEARN EVERYTHING, EVERY TIME FROM A DIFFERENT PRODUCT THAT WE USE, YOU KNOW, FROM THINKING THAT WE'RE BEING MORE SUSTAINABLE BY USING A RECYCLED RUBBER PRODUCT AND THEN FINDING OUT THAT IT BECOMES, BECAUSE IT COMES FROM TIRES, THERE'S A HEAVY METALS COMPONENT TO IT, AND THEN

[01:15:01]

TRYING TO USE, UM, VIRGIN RUBBER AND THERE'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND ALSO NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE OF WHERE VIRGIN RUBBER COMES FROM.

AND THEN USING CORK, AND THEN THE CORK FLOATS AWAY, IN THE RAIN AND NOW USING, UM, NUTSHELLS.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS KIND OF A TESTIMONY TO HOW WE REALLY DO WANNA BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE CHOICES THAT WE'RE MAKING.

AND SO, YES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UH, NEW SPECIFICATIONS AND THERE'S CLAIMS BY SOME ASTROTURF MANUFACTURERS NOW THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, THE ACTUAL CARPET AS HAVING, YOU KNOW, NO PFAS IN IT.

WE HAVEN'T IN THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE FOUND THAT TO BE NECESSARILY VALID.

BUT IF THERE IS SOME MIRACLE PLASTIC THAT DOESN'T HAVE PFAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DEFINITELY ENTERTAIN THAT AND WE WOULD REVIEW, UM, THOSE SPECIFICATIONS, NOT ONLY AT THE MAINTENANCE LEVEL, BUT ALSO CONSIDERING THE KIND OF SUSTAINABILITY ASPECTS TO THAT AS WELL.

DR.

ASHMAN MILLER IS, IS THAT THE END OF YOUR QUESTIONS? UM, YEAH.

I MEAN, I WAS REALLY SPEAKING MORE TO THE FACT THAT THEY SHOULD CREATE TREES AND NATURAL AREAS THAT HAVE SHADE, THAT REDUCE THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

UM, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE MONEY TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT IN THERE.

SO I'M NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF PRODUCT.

I THINK THE ISSUE IS MORE ABOUT HOW DO WE OFFSET THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

L-A-D-W-P IS NOT VERY EXCITED ABOUT ARTIFICIAL TURF, NOR IS THE CITY OF LA SO THANK YOU.

UM, SO LET ME RESPOND TO THAT 'CAUSE I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD.

YOUR QUESTION IS YES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS, THERE'S NOT REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY OBVIOUSLY, TO PUT TREES IN THE FIELD AREA, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TREES AROUND, UM, THE FIELDS ON THE PERIMETER.

UM, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T KIND OF INTERFERE WITH THE SAFETY OF THE USE OF THOSE FIELDS.

I THINK BEVIN ALSO, YOU'RE RIGHT TO LOOK AT THIS JUST SINGULAR SINGULARLY, UM, THIS IS JUST ONE TYPE OF PROJECT.

THIS IS THE REPLACEMENT OF SYNTHETIC TURF WITH, UH, REPLACEMENT SYNTHETIC TURF, SEPARATE AND APART FROM THESE PROJECTS, UM, THERE IS A VERY ROBUST, UM, PROGRAM AND INVESTMENT TO GREEN OUR CAMPUSES.

UM, PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WE'LL BE COMING TO THE BOC AND THE BOARD WITH OUR PLANS OF HOW WE PLAN ON LOOKING AT INVESTING APPROXIMATELY $1.2 BILLION, UM, TO NOT ONLY INCREASE GREEN SPACE AT OUR SCHOOLS, BUT ALSO WITH THAT SHADE, UM, WITH THE GOAL OF ESTABLISHING 20% SHADE AT OUR SCHOOLS.

SO IT MIGHT NOT BE SPECIFICALLY IN THE FIELD AREA WHERE YOU CAN'T PLANT TREES, BUT IT SHOULD BE OFFSET WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, NOT MAYBE JUST SPECIFICALLY AT THESE SCHOOLS, BUT OVERALL IN THE DISTRICT, WHICH TO IS INCREASED SCREENING AND INCREASED SHADE AS WE SEE OUR CLIMATE SHIFTING.

AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

THANK YOU, MS. LERMORE, YOU AHEAD.

IF IT WAS MENTIONED, I SLEPT THROUGH IT.

WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THESE, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLATIONS? HUNDRED 15 YEARS.

OKAY.

THE PROVIDER, UH, MANUFACTURER WARRANTIES FOR 10 YEARS.

OKAY.

10 YEARS.

10 YEARS.

BUT IF IT, UH, DOESN'T EXCEED, IF IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE, UH, EXPECTATIONS, IS THERE SOME SORT OF A GUESS WHAT WILL COME IN BACK AND HELP YOU AND REPLACE IT? PROVISION THAT CHRISTINA'S SAYING YES, THANKS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, HUNTINGTON PARK LASTED 15 YEARS.

OKAY.

NOT GOOD, BUT CURRENTLY IS IN THAT SHAPE.

HOWEVER, FUTURE SYNTHETIC TURF WILL LAST LONGER WITH THE RIGHT MATERIAL.

OKAY, THANKS.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MR. CAMPBELL? UH, MS. BETS YOU GO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, SO WITH REGARD TO OFFSETTING THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, I THINK, UM, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TREES AND, AND GREENERY CANNOT BE IMMEDIATELY NEAR THE PLAYING FIELDS.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF A SINGLE STUDENT OR A STUDENT BODY, IF A SCHOOL CAMPUS HAS A TURF FIELD, UH, SORRY, SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD, UM, THAT IS A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I THINK SHOULD INFLUENCE AND IMPACT THE GREENING THAT HAPPENS ELSEWHERE IN THAT CAMPUS VERSUS A SCHOOL THAT MAY HAVE A NATURAL TURF FIELD.

UM, SO THAT WOULD FEEL IMPORTANT, I THINK, AS GREENING PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT FORWARD.

UM, DOES THIS SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A STUDENT, IF THEY'RE PLAYING ON THE FIELD AND THEY DON'T HAVE SHADE ELSEWHERE ON THE CAMPUS, THAT'S A GREAT IMPACT ON THEIR EXPERIENCE.

SO

[01:20:01]

I'D JUST LIKE TO SHARE THAT.

WELL NOTED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

UM, MS. LEWIS.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHO.

UM, THANK YOU TO YOU AND MS. STOKES, UH, BOTH FOR ANTICIPATING OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU PUT INTO PREPARING THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

UM, I ECHO, UH, MR. MCFARLAND AND MS. CHEN MILLER'S REQUEST FOR A COST COMPARISON FOR THE TOTAL COST OF SYNTHETIC TURF VERSUS NATURAL TURF, INCLUDING THE COST OF INSTALLATION AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE COST.

'CAUSE I IMAGINE THAT THE NATURAL TURF, EVEN WITH THE BURDEN OF THE MAINTENANCE, MORE REGULAR MAINTENANCE IS STILL LESS THAN THE OVERALL COST OF A SYNTHETIC TURF AND DOES NOT NEED TO BE NEW NATURAL TURF, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BRAND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE EVERY TIME A SYNTHETIC TURF DOES.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PERMEABILITY OF THESE TWO SYNTHETIC TURF PROJECTS.

IS THERE, IS THERE PERMEABILITY TO THE SYNTHETIC SYNTHETIC TURF? I EXPLAINED THAT THERE ARE 11 LAYERS, UH, MAKING SYNTHETIC TURF.

WE HAVE A FILM MATERIAL, THEN YOU HAVE SYNTHETIC TURF UNDERNEATH, THERE'S A GEO TEXTILE, UH, MEMBRANE, AND UNDERNEATH THERE'S A SHOCK PAD.

I HAVE A SAMPLE IN MY OFFICE.

THE SHOCK PAD, UH, PREVENTS THE, UH, IMPACT TO THE STUDENTS.

BUT UNDERNEATH OF THE SHOCK PAD, THERE'S CHANNELS THAT WATER DRAIN TOO.

AND BELOW THAT, WE HAVE A LEVELING, UH, MATERIAL ALL THE WAY BOTTOM.

YOU HAVE THE, UH, EARTH RIGHT COMPACTED EARTH, RIGHT BE ABOVE THAT.

WE HAVE A MINIMUM FOUR INCH STONE, UH, COMPACTED LEVEL, UH, LAYER, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SAND THERE.

BUT IN BETWEEN, EVERY, IN BETWEEN THERE, A GEO TEXTILE, UH, MEMBRANE BETWEEN THE STONE AND THE SAND, THERE'S A DRAINAGE SYSTEM BUILT AS PART OF THE SYNTHETIC TURF AS WHAT IT'S COSTING A LOT AS PART OF THE COST ONCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT REQUIRES DESIGN AS A, UH, BIG, UH, PIPING SYSTEM UNDERNEATH WHERE IT COLLECTS ALL THE WATER FROM ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE SAFETY CONVERSATION.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STUDIES ARE GONNA CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT ALL MAJOR SPORTS PLAYERS ARE ASKING TO RETURN TO NATURAL TURF AND MOVE AWAY FROM SYNTHETIC TURF.

AND THESE ARE OUR MOST PREMIER PLAYERS IN THE WORLD ARE ASKING AND SAYING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING MORE INJURIES THAN ON SYNTHETIC TURF THAN NATURAL TURF.

BUT I ALSO WANNA EXPAND THE CONVERSATION OF SAFETY BEYOND JUST, UM, INJURIES THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING ON THE FIELD AND A BROADER PICTURE OF SAFETY.

UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT HEAT AND THAT SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HOTTER THAN NATURAL TURF FIELDS.

I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THIS MYSELF.

I HAVE A 9-YEAR-OLD WHO'S STARTING TO PLAY SOCCER, SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THE FER, FERRARO FIELDS IN GRIFFITH PARK, UM, JUST HOW HOT IT IS ON THOSE FIELDS.

SHE ACTUALLY HAD TO PLAY DURING THE HEAT WAVE WHENEVER THAT WAS IN MAY OR JUNE.

I COULD NOT BELIEVE HOW HOT IT WAS, WALKED OVER TO THE OAK TREES, 20 DEGREE DIFFERENCE.

UM, I DID A HEAT MEASURING ACTIVITY WITH STUDENTS AT DIEGO RIVERA MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND WE WERE WALKING AROUND THE CAMPUS, MEASURED THE SYNTHETIC TURF AT THEIR SCHOOL.

THERE WAS SOME GRASS ABOUT 20 FEET AWAY, AND THEY COULD NOT BELIEVE THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE.

ON A 80 DEGREE DAY, THERE WAS A 30 DEGREE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE.

BROUGHT IT INTO THE CLASSROOM, TALKED TO THE TEACHER ABOUT IT.

THE TEACHER GOES, WHY ON EARTH IS THIS ALLOWED ON OUR SCHOOL SITES? AND THE KIDS GO, I KNOW.

NO WONDER THEY SAID, WE DIDN'T REALIZE WHY WE'RE SO HOT ON THAT SYNTHETIC TURF DURING PE.

NOW IT MAKES SENSE.

I WENT OUT WITH A HEAT MEASURING GUN, AND I MEASURED, I SAW THE DIFFERENCE WITH MY OWN EYES.

NOW THAT MAKES SENSE.

THEY HAD NEVER CONNECTED THE DOTS BEFORE.

AND THE TEACHER GOES, NO WONDER THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE PE INSIDE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS AT A TIME, BECAUSE THE SYNTHETIC TURF IS SO MUCH HOTTER AND YOU GUYS CAN'T BE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S TOO HOT.

NOT TO MENTION THE LACK OF TREES.

I MEAN, I GET IT ON A SPORTS FIELD, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT MANY TREES, BUT I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING FOR HIGH VOLUME OF PLAYING, BUT AS

[01:25:01]

IT GETS HOTTER, YOU, YOU CAN'T PLAY OUTSIDE WHEN IT'S REALLY HOT AND THE FIELD IS MAKING IT HOTTER.

SO, I MEAN, I GET IT.

THE FERRARO FIELDS ARE MUCH BETTER THAN THE GOPHER RIDDEN PASADENA FIELDS FOR I-A-Y-S-O PARENTS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HEAT IS A SAFETY CONSIDERATION THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S NOT BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL.

HIS INJURY.

CHILDREN ARE MUCH MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO DEHYDRATION THAN ADULTS BECAUSE THEY LOSE FLUIDS FASTER, AND THEY'RE ALSO LESS CAPABLE OF COMMUNICATING THAT THEY'RE DEHYDRATED.

AND SO YOU'RE PUTTING CHILDREN IN A MORE VULNERABLE SITUATION BY EXPOSING THEM TO A MUCH HIGHER TEMPERATURE SITUATION.

I MEAN, YOU'RE BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY LIKE GREEN ASPHALT.

HEY, KIDS GO PLAY ON SOME GREEN ASPHALT.

YOU KNOW? SO WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ACROSS THE DISTRICT IN TERMS OF GREENING AND REDUCING TEMPERATURES, BOOM, YOU'RE PUTTING AN OVEN ON THAT CAMPUS.

NOT TO MENTION EXPOSURE TO MICROPLASTICS.

I MEAN, THE AMOUNT OF PLASTIC SHREDS OF MY DAUGHTER'S SOCKS AFTER SOCCER IS INSANE.

EVEN WHEN I SHAKE IT OUT OUTSIDE, IT STILL STICKS TO IT.

SO YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE VOLUME OF SHREDS OF PLASTIC GOING INTO THE STORM DRAIN AND OUT INTO OUR OCEAN.

I MEAN, WE'RE AT THE TURNING.

I GET IT.

I, I, I GET THAT.

IT IS SO MUCH EASIER.

BUT I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND, WE'VE GOT LIKE 10 MORE YEARS TO FIGURE OUT THIS WHOLE CLIMATE CATASTROPHE THING.

I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW.

SO THAT'S ALSO AFFECTING OUR WATER QUALITY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, , I, I GET IT, BUT I ALSO DON'T, I GUESS THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

BUT TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY FOR THE DESIGN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HEARD, INCLUDES THE WATER CANNON.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A CANNON.

IT'S A HIGHLY PRESSURIZED, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

WE INSTALL SIX OF 'EM IN EACH FIELD WHENEVER WE DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE, NOW WE ARE INSTALLING IT AS A REQUIREMENT.

INSTANTLY YOU SPRAY WATER IN ENTIRE FIELD, SPRAY THE WATER, AND LOWERS THE TEMPERATURE IMMEDIATELY AS HOW THEY PLAY THESE DAYS.

BUT MR. CHO, HOW LONG DOES THAT LAST REDUCING THE TEMPERATURE? IT LASTS ABOUT 30 TO 40 MINUTES.

YES.

AND THEN THAT'S A LOT OF WATER THAT YOU'RE USING TO REDUCE THAT HEAT INSTEAD OF, UH, GRASS, WHICH MAKES WATER, PLANTS MAKE WATER.

THANK YOU, MR. CAMPBELL.

YEAH, JUST VERY QUICKLY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I, I, I SEE THE, UM, URGENCY IN, IN THESE PROJECTS AND THE NEED TO, TO MAKE THESE, THESE CRITICAL REPAIRS FOR WALNUT PARK IS THE SOCCER FIELD CLOSED WALNUT PARK, THE ONE WITH THE COLLAPSED STORAGE TANK.

OH.

SO NO, IT'S NOT CLOSED.

IT'S, SO THE SOCCER FIELD IS STILL USABLE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO'S THAT'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THERE'S SOCCER FIELD.

THIS COLLAPSED AREA IS JUST ONE CORNER.

OKAY.

ONE CORNER.

SO WE BARRICADED THAT CORNER.

I WAS GONNA ASK IF IT COULD BE EXPEDITED IF THEY'RE LOSING THE USE OF THE FIELD FOR TWO YEARS, BUT IF IT'S STILL USABLE TO THEM, IT'S STILL USABLE.

UNDERSTOOD.

SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACKING ON, ON THE, THE QUESTION OF THE COST, RIGHT? NOT ASKING THIS FOR EVERY PROJECT, BUT FOR THE LARGE ONES WHERE WE'RE GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FIGURES ON ARTIFICIAL TURF, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

I'M, I'M SURE UNDERSTANDING THESE WOULD JUST BE ESTIMATES, RIGHT? BASED SORT OF ON AVERAGE COSTS.

IF WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAVING A, A FOOTBALL FIELD, UH, AN ATHLETIC FIELD, UH, THAT IS, UM, NATURAL TURF IS GOING TO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, MOWING ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN APPLICATION OF FERTILIZER, UH, WATERING ON A CERTAIN SCHEDULE, RESEEDING AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

IF, IF, IF THOSE COULD JUST SORT OF BE AGGREGATED OVER THE LIFETIME OF, OF, UH, THE SYNTHETIC FIELD TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIELD COST, THE SYNTHETIC FIELD COST IS THIS, AND THIS, OF COURSE WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T FACTOR IN, YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE, THE VERY RELEVANT AND, AND, AND HARDER TO QUANTIFY COST THAT MS. LEWIS AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE BROUGHT UP.

BUT IT, IT WOULD BE PROBABLY USEFUL TO SAY, LOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE ESTIMATING, PROJECTING THAT WE WOULD AVOID THIS MANY, THIS MANY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF COST TOTALING APPROXIMATELY THIS MUCH MONEY, UM, OVER THE LI OVER THE EXPECTED LIFETIME OF THE ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD.

UM, IT, IT JUST PROVIDES, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UNDERSTANDING THEIR IMPERFECT NUMBERS.

WE WOULDN'T HOLD ANYBODY TO THEM.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, ONLY FOR THESE LARGE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS THAT MIGHT IN THE FUTURE BE HELPFUL INFORMATION TO, TO BETTER CONTEXTUALIZE THE, UM, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE COST SAVINGS WILL BE.

JUST SORT OF ALMOST LIKE WITH SOLAR, RIGHT? WE'RE SPENDING THIS MUCH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE AVOIDING THIS MUCH IN ELECTRICAL COSTS.

AND, AND

[01:30:01]

SO THAT'S, THAT'S AT LEAST A PARTIALLY OFFSETTING COST.

UM, THAT WAS THE, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ASKED ON THE PERMIT, UH, PERMIT USAGE.

DO WE CHARGE FOR THE USE OF THE FIELD TO OUTSIDE ENTITIES? I BELIEVE WE DO.

SCHOOL IS CHARGING.

SO THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE, ARE THOSE WHEN WE ARE CHARGING FOR THE USE OF THE FIELD, IS THAT MONEY AGGREGATED INTO A, A, A DESIGNATED PURPOSE ACCOUNT THAT WOULD OFFSET THE, THE COST OF FUTURE MAINTENANCE OR, OR GO INTO LIKE A SINKING FUND FOR REPLACEMENT? OR DOES IT JUST GO TO SORT OF THE GENERAL USE OF THE FACILITY? WELL, I BELIEVE IT GOES TO THE SCHOOL.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

I'LL VALIDATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

BUT IN TERMS OF COST SAVING, MR. CAMPBELL, UH, IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT WITH A, TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, WHEN WE REPLACE FAIR FIXX IN HUNTINGTON PARK, 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS LATER, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUT OVERHAUL EVERYTHING.

HOPEFULLY AT THE TIME WE'LL JUST REPLACE THE CARPET, LIKE TOP LAYERS AND MAYBE THE, UH, IMPACT, UH, PAD.

SO COST IS NOT GOING TO BE AS HIGH AS TODAY'S $11 MILLION.

YEAH, I, I HAVE NO DOUBT.

AND, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT YOUR, YOUR REPRESENTATIONS THAT WE WOULD ALSO REALIZE ONGOING COST SAVINGS FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO MAYBE THE, THE UPKEEP AND, AND MAINTENANCE IS REQUIRED OF, OF NATURAL TURF.

IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE AT LEAST AN ESTIMATE TO, TO PUT WITH THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL PRUDENCE OF THIS, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION AND AGAIN, THE, THE COMPELLING CASE YOU'VE MADE FOR THE NEED FOR THESE PROJECTS.

WE'VE BEEN ON THIS ITEM FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

I'M GONNA WRAP IT UP REAL QUICKLY.

ABSOLUTE RESPECT FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, THIS, I'M DEAD.

I'M BEING VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW.

I'M GONNA TAKE A STEP BACK.

NUMBER ONE, CHRISTINA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION AND EFFORT.

THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT ON YOUR PART.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I SEE THE NEED.

THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY NEED TO REPAIR THESE FIELDS.

NO DOUBT THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE OR THEY CAN'T BE USED.

THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, LET'S GO BACK 10 YEARS AT THE TIME WHEN TODAY THE SAME TECHNOLOGY OF WHAT WE KNEW AND HOW YOU, EVEN YOURSELF ELOQUENTLY DESCRIBED THESE PHASING OF MATERIALITIES THAT WERE CONCERNS WERE THE STATE OF THE ART.

AND THIS IS THE BEST PRODUCT VERSUS WHAT WAS DONE IN THE ASTRODOME, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 1960S.

UM, THIS IS A CONTEXTUAL ISSUE THAT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC.

WE GET THE FALSE SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE FACILITIES ARE A LOT EASIER THAN IT IS WITH NATURAL TURF.

AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY EQUITABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THESE.

NOW, LOOK, THERE'S EASY WAYS TO BRANDING.

I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STRIPING.

UM, BUT THESE FIELDS REQUIRE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DUE DILIGENCE, ANIMAL FECES, URINE, HUMAN WASTE, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THESE THINGS THAT ARE NOT MANAGED CORRECTLY.

THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, THESE ARE MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY ON A REGULAR 80 DEGREE DAY.

THE HEAT NUMBERS GO UP SO QUICKLY AS STATED, AND I KNOW THIS FROM EVIDENCE THAT IT'S A PROBLEM.

THE INJURIES, DEPENDING ON WHO DOES THE STUDIES ARE GONNA, AND, AND CORRECTLY.

YOU GUYS WERE REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS.

IT'S, IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW.

IT GOES ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I DO KNOW ON THE HIGHER ENDS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE HIPAA ISSUES, THOSE REPORTED INJURIES ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT WITH HIGH SCHOOL K THROUGH 12.

WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE A LOT OF THE KIDS, WE DON'T REPORT THIS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE INJURIES OCCURRED, IF THEY DO OCCUR.

BUT WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WHAT WE THINK IS THE STUFF RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT YOU STATED, THIS IS WHERE I RESPECTFULLY WANT TO DISAGREE WITH YOU.

WE DON'T KNOW IN FIVE YEARS IF THIS SYSTEM IS GONNA BE THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WE CAN ADD ONTO OR REPLACE, OR A NEW SYSTEM COMES INTO PLAY JUST BASED ON THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN 30 YEARS.

AND SO, I'M, I'M GONNA CONTINUE BECAUSE I, I, THIS IS A LONG GAME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE'S GONNA HOLD FOR THIS.

AND WHEN I LOOK BACK AND SAY, HEY, I WAS A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CONCERNS OF THIS AREA, I'M NOT VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE I STILL DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK, BOTH STRUCTURALLY AND OF COURSE, ENVIRONMENTALLY, AND I'M TALKING INDIVIDUAL ENVIRONMENTALLY.

AND THEN THERE IS THE, THE, THE CONTEXT OF ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE EARTH.

SO I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THERE, AND I'M JUST THIS ONE PERSON WITH AN OPINION, BUT MAYBE IT'LL PLAY OUT IN FIVE, SIX YEARS AND I'LL LOOK BACK AND GO SAY, YEAH, I TOLD YOU SO.

OR MAYBE IT'LL BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY, THEY HAD THEIR STUFF TOGETHER.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GUYS FOR DOING A GOOD JOB.

'CAUSE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY CONSIDERING ALL THIS AND YOU'RE TAKING THE TIME.

I NEED TO KNOW FROM STAFF IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, IF I, I DON'T WANT TO KILL ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THIS, UH, MATTER, BUT

[01:35:01]

I PROBABLY AM NOT GONNA VOTE IN, IN AFFIRMATION OF THE FINAL TWO.

UH, MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST THEN, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE TWO ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER THIS, UH, THIS ITEM IN TWO PARTS, UH, THAT WE, UH, TAKE A VOTE RECOMMENDING, UH, PROJECTS ONE THROUGH FIVE, THE ROOF REPLACEMENTS AND THE STORMWATER RETENTION TANK REPLACEMENT, AND A SECOND VOTE, UH, ON A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TWO, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS.

AND THAT WE, UH, DIVIDE THE QUESTION AND CONSIDER THIS AS TWO SEPARATE VOTING ITEMS. STAFF ARE, ARE WE, OH, A SECOND.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT BEING STATED, THEN WE'LL CONSIDER THE FIRST MOTION, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

MS. MCDONALD, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

SAY THE SECOND ITEM FAILS, WOULD IT STILL PROCEED TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR THEIR DECISION? YES.

AND WE WOULD PROVIDE, UM, A LETTER JUST EXPLAINING.

EXPLAINING, YEAH.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO WITH ITEM, UH, NUMBER FOUR, WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE PROJECT.

UH, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE? SORRY, BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

SORRY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED IN.

SECONDED.

THERE WAS A, WELL, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS, THEY WERE GONNA SPLIT IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

SO, OKAY.

NOW THERE'S A MOTION FOR ONE THROUGH FIVE.

WHO IS THAT MOTION BY MR. CAMPBELL? MR. CAMPBELL.

AND WHO IS HIS SECOND MR. ARLAN? NO MORE THAN I DO.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, UH, MR. POJO? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FIRST FIVE PROJECTS, UH, WHICH INCLUDE FOUR ROOFING REPLACEMENT PROJECTS AT SENEGA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LOS ANGELES CENTER FOR ENRICHED STUDIES, MANHATTAN ES HAYNES CHARTER FOR ENRICHED STUDIES, AND WALNUT PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS A STORMWATER RETENTION TANK.

SO THAT'S THE MOTION THAT, UH, IS ON THE TABLE FOR VOTE.

DR.

ASHTON MILLER.

AYE.

MS. BELL? AYE.

MS. BES AYE.

MS. L MUELLER? AYE.

THANK YOU, MS. LEWIS.

AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? AYE.

MR. ROSS? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MCFARLAND.

AYE.

DR.

ROLLS? AYE.

MR. CAMPBELL? AYE.

MR. HAMNER? AYE.

THANK YOU.

THAT MOTION IS ADOPTED WITH 11 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

I, SO NOW, SHOULD WE TAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, OR HAS THAT BEEN DONE? UM, ALRIGHT.

SO AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO ACTION ON, UH, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SIX AND SEVEN.

THE COMMITTEE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY MAKES IT TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THOSE TWO, YOU COULD RECOMMEND SOMEBODY COULD MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THOSE TWO PROJECTS AND OR NO ACTION.

UM, THE, THE MATTER COULD BE TABLED.

OKAY.

WITH THE CONSIDERATION, IS THERE A MOTION? UM, WE'LL JUST RUN AROUND WITH ALL THREE OPTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? SIX AND SEVEN.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD, MS. MS. LEWIS? I AM JUST LEARNING HOW THIS WORKS.

SO I WOULD SAY I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SEVEN SEVEN MOTION.

WE SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND.

IF THERE'S, IF THERE IS, THEN WE'LL VOTE.

IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THEN IT'LL FAIL.

THEN I'LL ASK THE NEXT QUESTION.

.

OKAY.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AND SEVEN.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

LACK OF A SECOND.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM SIX AND SEVEN? YEAH, A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THE, THE DIS.

OH, OKAY.

IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION AGAINST ITEM SIX AND SEVEN? I MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AGAINST ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, VERY DIPLOMATIC.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

SECOND BY, UH, MEMBER MCFARLAND IS, UH, YOU WANT TO ASK FOR THE ROLL CALL? MR. POPE? JOY? MS. YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO MEMBERS, THIS IS A VOTE TO NOT RECOMMEND.

NO TO RECOMMEND AGAINST, OH, TO THANK YOU, TO RECOMMEND AGAINST, UH, THE FIELD UPGRADE WITH SYNTHETIC TURF AND TRACK AT FAIRFAX HIGH SCHOOL AND FIELD UPGRADES WITH SYNTHETIC TURF AND TRACK AT HUNTINGTON PARK HIGH SCHOOL.

DR.

ESCHEN MILLER? AYE.

MS. BELL ABSTAIN.

[01:40:01]

MS. BETS? AYE.

LMU ABSTAIN STAIN.

MS. LEWIS? AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? AYE.

MR. ROSS ABSTAIN.

MR. MCFARLAND? AYE.

DR.

ROLLS ABSTAIN.

CAMPBELL ABSTAIN.

MR. HAMNER? YES.

AYE.

SO THE VOTE IS, UH, SIX AFFIRMATIVE AND SIX ABSTENTIONS.

THE ITEM FAILS.

OH FIVE ABSTENTIONS.

SORRY, THE ITEM FAILS.

SO THEN FROM A ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, UM, THIS, THIS ITEM WHEN IT'S CONSIDERED BY THE BOE WILL HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION FOR OR AGAINST, FROM, FROM THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

QUESTION.

WILL IT HAVE ANY STATEMENT AS TO WHY IT WAS NOT INCLUDED AS IN THE ITEMS RECOMMENDED? I'LL, WE'LL, I'LL PUT A ALL REQUEST THAT WE SEND A MEMO.

IT IT, IF I MAY, IT'S THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, PRACTICE WHEN A MATTER THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO IT THAT DOES NOT RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO PRESENT A LETTER, UH, COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD AS TO WHAT OCCURRED.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. CHO, YOU'RE STILL NOT GONE YET, RIGHT? WE GOT YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER

[5.Two Early Education Center Outdoor Classroom Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein]

FIVE.

UH, THESE ARE, EXCUSE ME, TWO EARLY EDUCATION CENTER OUTDOOR CLASSROOM PROJECTS.

SO WE HAVE TWO OUTDOOR CLASSROOM PROJECTS.

UNLIKE PREVIOUS PROJECTS WE HAD, UH, PRESENTED IN THE PAST.

THESE TWO PROJECTS DO NOT REQUIRE DSA APPROVAL.

THEY ALSO DO NOT, THEY INCLUDE CAMPUS UPGRADES SUCH AS ROOFING, HVAC, AND OTHERS THAT ARE PART OF THE BUILDINGS.

WE ARE JUST FOCUSING ON THE OUTDOOR CLASSROOMS IN THESE TWO PROJECTS.

THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU PROBABLY NOTICED IT.

THE PROJECT VALUE IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS.

TOTAL COMBINED PROJECTS VALUE IS AT TWO POINT LITTLE OVER $2.6 MILLION FOR REWARDING EARLY EDUCATION CENTER.

WE ARE CONVERTING 75 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING PLAYGROUND AREA INTO DISTINCT ACTIVITY AREAS SUCH AS MUSIC, NATURE, ART, GARDEN CLIMBING, I BALANCE ORDER PLAY, DIRT DIGGING, SAND PLAY, AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS WILL BE REPLACING OLD EXISTING PLAYGROUND MATTING AS PART OF THE PROJECTS.

AND THE SCOPES INCLUDE PROVIDING NEW TREES, UH, NATIVE PLANTS, SHRUBS, AND RAISED PLANTER BEDS WITH IRRIGATION UPGRADES.

NEW PAVING AND SOLAR REFLECTIVE COATING IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE SCOPE.

THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $970,000.

IF WE CAN START IN QUARTER TWO OF 2026 AND COMPLETE BY QUARTER ONE OF 2027.

BRADLEY BRADLEY EARLY EDUCATION CENTER IS VERY SIMILAR.

THE SCOPE'S ALMOST SIMILAR AS THE PREVIOUS ONE, EXCEPT THAT THIS SITE IS MUCH BIGGER.

WE ARE CONVERTING 14,000, UH, AT THIS SCHOOL SQUARE FEET OF PLAYGROUND INTO THOSE DISTINCT ACTIVITY AREAS.

UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $1.7 MILLION.

AND WE'LL COMPLETE THIS PROJECT BY QUARTER ONE OF 2027.

IN SUMMARY, UH, YOU HAVE APPROVED AS OF THIS DATE, 57 EEC OUTDOOR LEARNING

[01:45:01]

CLASSROOM PROJECTS.

WE HAVE COMPLETED 28 OF THEM, 17 OF THEM ARE IN CONSTRUCTION, TWO OF THEM IN DSA, 10 OF THEM IN DESIGN.

SO THESE TWO PROJECTS WILL ADD ADDITIONAL TWO, UH, EECS TO BECOME 59 BOARD APPROVED PROJECTS.

THERE ARE STILL 32 EECS REMAINING THAT DO NOT HAVE THIS KIND OF FACILITY AND WILL CONTINUOUSLY BRING THESE PROJECTS, BEAUTIFUL PROJECTS FORWARD AS THE MAJOR US ALLOWS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CHO ON THIS? UM, THE DRAWINGS ARE NOT AS FUN.

OH, WE DO HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

MISS BETS I DIDN'T SEE.

GO AHEAD.

UM, ON THE ROBERTI EARLY EDUCATION CENTER, AND I CAN'T READ THE KEY NOTES, IT'S TOO SMALL, BUT I'M WONDERING, THE GREEN SPACE, IS THAT, IS THAT SYNTHETIC TURF AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BLUE SHADE? WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE SYNTHETIC TURF IN EECS.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S NATURAL LAWN.

RIGHT.

SO I BELIEVE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT, THE GREENING WILL BE 33%.

OKAY.

IF THERE IS A SYNTHETIC TURF, OUR MISSION IS TO REMOVE SYNTHETIC TURF FROM EECS, CONVERT THOSE AREAS TO THE GRASS AREA.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN IN THE BRADLEY, I'M JUST LOOKING, SO THE PHOTO HAS THE BLUE THAT, IS THAT THE RUBBER MATTING? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS BLUE.

SORRY, THERE'S BLUE.

OH, PHOTO.

OH, SORRY.

IN THE PHOTO.

OH, IN THE PHOTO.

I FORGOT MY GLASSES TODAY.

SO I CAN'T SEE.

THAT'S THE MATTING.

YES.

THAT'S PLAYGROUND MATTING, YES.

OKAY.

AND SO IN THE, SO THAT'S EXISTING.

AND THEN WHAT THE PLAYGROUND MATTING IS BEING REPLACED IS BEING WITH NEW PLAYGROUND MATTING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S PLAYGROUND MATTING, I BELIEVE IS STAYING, UH, UNLESS, UH, IT PRESENTS A SAFETY, UH, REASONS, THEN WE'LL REPLACE THOSE.

OKAY.

WE ARE STILL IN THE DISTRICT, DISTRICT WIDE.

WE'RE STILL INSTALLING, UH, PLAYGROUND MEETINGS IN EARLY EDUCATION.

UH, YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SO THEN THE GREEN ON THE EXTERIOR IN THE PHOTO.

OKAY.

SO I SEE IN THE, IN THE DRAWING THEN THAT THERE'S TREES AND THERE'S NATURAL SPACE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE PLAYGROUND AREA.

YES.

WE'RE PROVIDING TREES DROPS, PLANTING AREAS.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE'S THE, ALL THE GREEN IS THERE.

AND I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT WHEN I SEE THE PLAYGROUND MATTING AND SO MUCH OF THAT IS WITHOUT SHADE.

I, IT'S JUST KIND OF THE SAME CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD.

IT'S, IT'S HOT.

UM, SO I WILL JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOOD QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

.

SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. CAMPBELL.

MR. POP.

JOY, CAN YOU CALL FOR THE VOTE? THANK YOU.

MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO EARLY EDUCATION CENTER OUTDOOR CLASSROOM PROJECTS.

DR.

ASHEN MILLER? I AM GONNA ABSTAIN.

ABSTAIN.

THANK YOU MS. BELL, TEMPORARILY.

OKAY, I'LL HOLD IT OPEN FOR HER VOTE.

UH, MS. BETS ABSTAIN.

MENTION MS. LURCH MUELLER.

AYE.

MS. LEWIS? AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? AYE.

MR. ROSS, I COME BACK.

MR. ROSS? UH, MR. MCFARLAND? AYE.

DR.

ROLLS? AYE.

THANK YOU MR. CAMPBELL.

AYE.

MR. HAMNER? AYE.

[01:50:01]

YOU WANNA CHECK WITH MR. ROSS? WE HAVE ONE MEMBER JUST INFORM THE CHAIR.

UM, MR. CHAIR, WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS, UM, WHO STEPPED OUT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HOLD THE VOTE OPEN? YEAH, LET'S HOLD THE VOTE OPEN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, UH, MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WE, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER THAT, UM, WAS DELAYED ON GETTING HERE, UH, DR.

ROLLS AND I THINK, UH, YOU WANTED IT TO BE REGISTERED FOR THE MOU, UH, IN TERMS OF YOUR POSITION.

DO YOU WANT, SO STAFF, DO WE JUST ASK WHAT HER VOTE IS OR DO YOU WANT ASK IT MR. ? SURE.

YOU COULD JUST, UM, INQUIRE OF THE MEMBER IF THEY WISH TO RECORD A VOTE ON THE ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY VOTED ON.

ROLLS.

DO YOU WANT TO, DR.

ROLLS, DO YOU WANNA RECORD A VOTE ON THE ITEM? YES.

YES SHE DOES.

AND, AND WHAT IS YOUR VOTE? A AYE.

OKAY, .

SO VERY, VERY FORMAL.

.

OKAY, SO DR.

ROLL'S, UH, AFFIRMATIVE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE REGARDING THE MOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER IS, IS MR. ROSS BACK? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD BACK TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

UH, ON THE VOTE, WE ARE GOING TO ASK BOTH MR. ROSS AND MS. BELL.

MR. YES.

UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

MS. BELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECORD A VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? AND THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE IT, I ASSUME TO APPROVE? YES.

AYE.

TWO EARLY ED CENTER OUTDOOR CLASSROOMS. AYE.

THANK YOU.

AND MR. ROSS? YES.

OKAY, THERE WE GO.

IT WASN'T ALLOWING ME TO UNMUTE HIM.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UH, AND YES, A YES VOTE, AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.

THANK YOU.

SO, MR. CHAIR, THE, UM, THE RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE TWO OUTDOOR CLASSROOM PROJECTS, UH, PASSES WITH NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THANK YOU.

A MR. CHO.

WE'RE BACK FOR THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, EXCUSE ME.

NUMBER SIX.

THESE

[6. 27 Board District Priority and Region Priority Projects and Amend the Facilities Services Division Strategic Execution Plan to Incorporate Therein]

ARE 27 BOARD, DISTRICT AND REGIONAL, OR SORRY, REGION PRIORITY PROJECTS? YES, WE DO HAVE 27 PROJECTS TODAY.

I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BY CATEGORY.

SO WE HAVE THREE AUDITORIUM UPGRADES.

NUMBER 2, 11, 17.

WE HAVE ONE CLASSROOM UPGRADE THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 10.

THEN WE HAVE 11 FENCING PROJECTS, THEN SIX FURNITURE PROJECTS.

FURNITURE PROJECTS ARE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

THEN WE HAVE THREE MARQUEE PROJECTS, THEN THREE TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS.

WHILE WE ARE IN THIS SLIDE, WELL, LET ME JUST ADDRESS FENCING PROJECTS.

WE HAVE 11 FENCING PROJECTS.

EIGHT OF THEM OUT OF 11 ARE PROVIDING, UH, PRIVACY FENCING FOR SECURITY SAFETY REASON.

TWO OF THEM ARE FOR STRICTLY FOR SAFETY.

FOR EXAMPLE, SYLMORE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.

ITEM NUMBER 20.

THAT CAMPUS HAS A FALLING SLOPE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SOCCER FIELD.

WE ARE INSTALLING 130 FEET OF NEW CHANNELING FENCE WITHIN THE CAMPUS TO PREVENT STUDENT INJURIES WHILE THEY'RE PLAYING LINE NUMBER 24 FLOOR NOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE ARE PROVIDING THE FENCE.

AGAIN, THIS IS WITHIN THE CAMPUS TO PREVENT STUDENTS FROM ACCIDENTALLY EXITING OUT OF CAMPUS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.

SO THIS IS A SMALL PROJECT.

THEN WE HAVE SEPARATE SLIDES FOR THREE UNIQUE PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THE LINE NUMBER, UH, 10, 11, AND 19.

THEN, UH, BEFORE WE GET THERE, I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THE LINE NUMBER 15 PROJECT TO

[01:55:01]

PURCHASE A HUNDRED CHROMEBOOKS.

CHROMEBOOK IS, AS YOU MAY OWN, IT'S ABOUT $300, $350.

WE ARE PURCHASING A HUNDRED OF THEM FOR APPROXIMATELY $38,000.

THIS IS FOR CHAVEZ GRADE NINE THROUGH 12.

YOU PROBABLY HEARD BUYING COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IS IN THE BOND LANGUAGE.

SO IT'S A LEGITIMATE SPENDING IN TERMS OF LEGAL, AND I WANNA SAY CHROMEBOOKS, MY SON HAS A CHROMEBOOK, ARE NOT FOR PLAYING GAMES.

THIS IS TO SUPPORT EDUCATION, LEARNING, AND TEACHERS TO MONITOR THEIR HOME PROGRESS.

THE SCHOOL IMPORTANTLY, IS EXPECTING NEW INCOMING NEW ADDITIONAL STUDENTS OUT OF CHARTER SCHOOL.

THE ITS HAS A GOOD PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED TECH REFRESH PROGRAM THAT REPLACES CERTAIN CHROMEBOOKS.

HOWEVER, THE CHROMEBOOK, UM, NOT UNDER THEIR PROGRAM.

THEY DO NOT REPLACE ANY DAMAGED OR LOST CHROMEBOOKS, AND THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CHROMEBOOKS FOR NEW STUDENTS OR NEW EMPLOYEES THAT IS, UH, IN THEIR SCOPE.

SCHOOL HAS TO PAY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL CHROMEBOOKS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, UH, THESE CHROMEBOOKS ARE ISSUED TO EACH STUDENTS.

THEY GET TO TAKE THOSE CHROMEBOOKS HOME.

HOWEVER, A LOT OF TIMES, AS YOU KNOW, KIDS FORGET TO BRING CHROMEBOOKS.

SO SCHOOL NEEDS ADDITIONAL EXTRA CHROMEBOOKS TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION.

AND BECAUSE OF ALL THESE REASONS, UH, BD SIX OPTED TO USE THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUNDING TO PRODUCE DEVICES FOR THEIR ADDITIONAL NEEDS.

I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.

I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM.

SO, THOSE THREE UNIQUE PROJECTS UNDER THIS CATEGORY, UH, THE PORTOLA CHARTER MIDDLE SCHOOL, THIS IS JUST TO REPLACE ALL DETERIORATED FLOORING TILES, SEATS, DAMAGED SEATS, AND STAGE IES.

THOSE ARE THREE ITEMS. THE DAMAGED SEATING HAS LED TO SOME STUDENT INJURIES IN THE PAST.

SO THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE NEW 118 THEATER LIKE SEATINGS.

TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $186,747.

YOU HAVE SEEN MANY OF THESE, UH, AUDITORIUM, UH, IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE'RE DOING AUDIO EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, SOUNDTRACK AMPLIFIERS, ALL THESE, UH, EQUIPMENT, THEN VISUAL EQUIPMENT.

THEN LIGHTING INCLUDES OVER 190 LIGHTINGS THROUGHOUT THIS AUDITORIUM THAT WE ARE REPLACING WITH CURRENT LED STANDARDS.

TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $136,000.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THREE, UH, MARQUEE PROJECTS.

THIS IS A SUN VALLEY MAGNET CREATED FROM SIX THROUGH EIGHT.

THIS ONE IS TO INSTALL NEW BRAND NEW DOUBLE-SIDED, FULL COLORED ELECTRONIC FREE STANDING.

USUALLY, UH, REPLACING THE EXISTING FREE STANDING MARK DOES NOT COST THIS MUCH BECAUSE WE ARE UTILIZING THE EXISTING FOUNDATION, EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ELECTRICAL FOR POWER.

HOWEVER, THIS SCHOOL DOES NOT HAVE ANY MARQUEE AT ALL.

SO WE ARE PLACING A BRAND NEW MARQUEE AT THIS CORNER, BUT IT REQUIRES A MODIFICATION OF WR IRON.

THAT'S WHY IT ADDS UP TO, UH, LITTLE OVER $111,000.

IF YOU NOTICE NUMBER NINE, LAWRENCE, UH, IS JUST REPLACING THE EXISTING MARQUEE AT ABOUT 40 5K 22ND.

UH, LINE NUMBER ITEM 22ND, 102ND STREET.

IT'S A BRAND NEW, UH, STANDING MARKING FREE STANDING MARKEE.

SO IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL FOUNDATION ELECTRICAL WORK, BUT NOT AS BAD AS THE SUN VALLEY.

SO THAT ONE IS LITTLE LESS UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE I HAVE FOR THIS PART.

[02:00:01]

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CHO? YES, MS. MCDONALD, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, FOR LINE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE AT KNOLLWOOD PREP, THE INTERACTIVE DISPLAYS.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THAT KIND OF SCOPE.

YEAH.

WE ARE INSTALLING, IT'S CALLED INTERACTIVE DISPLAY'S CALLED A PROMETHEAN BOARD, UH, PROMETHEAN BOARD.

SO IT'S A, UH, TOUCH SCREEN.

IT'S CONNECTED WITH, UH, INTERNET AND YOU CAN CONDUCT, WE HARDLY DO THE BLACKBOARD ANYMORE.

SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH, UH, TRAINING AND EDUCATION AND TEACHING IS THROUGH THE INTERACTIVE PROMETHEAN BOARDS WHERE KIDS CAN INTERACT TOGETHER.

AND I ASSUME IN THE CLASSROOMS OR IN THE CLASSROOM.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM.

THE, THE BUNDLING OF THE LUNCH TABLES WAS GETTING ME THINKING THAT THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF A INTERACTIVE LUNCH.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. CAMPBELL? SO ON, ON THE CHROMEBOOKS.

I I'M STILL NOT, AND, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT.

WHAT, WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THESE A HUNDRED CHROMEBOOKS FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER, UH, MECHANISM OR, OR OR REASON TO, TO BE PURCHASING? 'CAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE HERE SEEMS TO HAVE A RELATIVELY LONG LIFE, RIGHT? THOSE ARE, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT DISPOSABLE ITEMS, BUT THEY'RE VERY SHORT-LIVED PIECES OF, OF INDIVIDUAL TECHNOLOGY THAT ARE, ARE USED BY STUDENTS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALMOST CONSUMABLE.

THEY, THEY CERTAINLY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT, THE LONGEVITY OR THE TIMEFRAME THAT I'D ASSOCIATE WITH THINGS THAT WE WOULD, UH, ENGAGE IN LONG-TERM BORROWING FOR.

SO, I I, I'M, I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING, NOT WITHSTANDING THAT THE RIGHT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A VERY EXPANSIVE LANGUAGE IN THE, IN THE BALLOT MEASURE, WHICH, WHICH AUTHORIZED THE MOST RECENT BOND FUNDS, WHICH ARGUABLY COULD BE USED TO, TO JUSTIFY SPENDING THE MONEY ON JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

BUT I, I'M, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECT.

SO ITS HAS THAT PROGRAM TO REPLACE, UH, CHROMEBOOKS.

I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON REPLACING SOME OF THE CHROMEBOOKS AT THIS SITE AS WELL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

HOWEVER, THE LIFE CYCLE OF CHROMEBOOKS IS ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

IF IT LASTS LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS, WE DO NOT REPLACE, ONLY TIME THEY REPLACE, UH, THAT'S LESS THAN FIVE YEARS IS WHEN THE DEVICE IS NOT UPGRADEABLE TO THE CURRENT SECURITY, UH, SECURITY VERSION OF SOFTWARE, THEN YOU HAVE NO CHOICE TO REPLACE.

THOSE ARE REPLACED BY ITS.

HOWEVER, IF ITEMS ARE LOST OR DAMAGED OR YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS, IN THIS CASE, THEY WERE BY A HUNDRED.

CHROMEBOOKS ARE NOT REPLACED BY ITS PROGRAM.

WE HAVE ITS SENIOR DIRECTOR WHO CAN EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.

RICHARD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

BOC MEMBERS OF RICHARD ALVAREZ, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF ITS MS. RICHARD MULLER.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING IN THE RETIREMENT GROUP VERY SOON.

SO, RETIRED ADMINISTRATOR ON THE WAY.

UM, YOU LOOK LIKE MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR OR SO, MAYBE.

YEAH, RIGHT.

YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE.

THAT'S FINE.

MY FIRST HIT.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, AS FAR AS THE DEVICES OVERALL, RIGHT NOW, SCHOOLS ARE BEING TASKED WITH PURCHASING THEIR OWN DEVICES TO REPAIR THEIR SURPLUS NEW STUDENTS, THINGS THAT ARE BROKEN AND WHATNOT.

UH, WE HAVE AN AMAZING PROJECT CALLED THE TECH REFRESH PROJECT, WHICH IS, UM, INCREASE AND PROVIDE SECURITY FOR OUTDATED DEVICES, TEACHERS, OFFICE STAFF AND STUDENTS, WHICH CAN NO LONGER TAKE SECURITY UPGRADES AND PATCHES.

SO LET'S SEE, A DEVICES, FIVE YEARS OR OLDER AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK, SOME DEVICES CAN STILL TAKE A SECURITY PATCH OR AN UPDATE.

SO WE EXTEND THE LIFE AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THOSE DEVICES.

BUT IF THERE IS A DEVICE AT A SCHOOL THAT CAN NO LONGER HAS REACHED END OF LIFE BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, THAT CAN NO LONGER FIVE YEARS, NOT JUST THAT THOUGH, BUT CANNOT ACCEPT ANY KIND OF SECURITY UPGRADE.

SO THEY POSE A RISK TO SECURITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TEACHER DEVICES WHICH HAVE STUDENT DATA, PII, ET CETERA.

SO THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ALWAYS SECURE AT ALL TIMES.

SO WE REPLACE THOSE AT THE SCHOOLS WHO HAVE AGED DEVICES.

BUT HERE'S THE CATCH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE REPLACING THEIR MISSING DEVICES AS PART OF THE BOND RULES FOR THAT.

WE'RE DOING LIKE, FOR LIKE, SO WE'LL TAKE A BRAND NEW DEVICE AND SWAP OUT THE OLD DEVICE, TAKING THE OLD DEVICE, WHICH POSES A RISK AND WE TAKE IT AWAY.

SO THE RISK NO LONGER EXISTS, RIGHT? WE ONE FOR ONE, IT DOESN'T REPLACE OR ADD TO THEIR, TO THEIR INVENTORY.

SO THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL, WE DID SOME RESEARCH WITH THE NUMBERS.

THEY HAVE A 28 DEVICE INVENTORY, UH, 28 DEVICE SURPLUS RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT BASED ON THEIR INVENTORY THAT'S TAKEN BY THE PRINCIPAL, WHICH THE TEAM VERIFIED THAT IS ACCURATE RIGHT NOW AT THAT SCHOOL.

BUT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING AN INFLUX OF CHARTER SCHOOL STUDENTS.

THEY'RE GONNA BE GETTING, AND ALSO THEY HAVE A LOANER

[02:05:01]

PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE SOME CARTS THEY USE IN THE CLASSROOMS, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM EACH.

EACH SCHOOL IS UP TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO AS FAR AS THEIR SETUP WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL THAT HAD MY LABS AND WHATNOT.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR FUNDING OR THESE OTHER DEVICES TO SUPPLANT THEIR PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE DOING OUTSIDE OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE NORMAL INVENTORY REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE.

IT MAKES SENSE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THESE DEVICES, RIGHT? THEY HAVE A SMALL SURPLUS RIGHT NOW, 28 DEVICES, DEPENDING ON THEIR INFLUX FROM THE CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT'LL BE COMING IN AFTER NORM DAY, WHICH THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS WILL BE.

AND THEN PLUS THE DEVICES THEY HAVE ON HAND THAT THEY USE FOR THE LOANERS, FOR KIDS THAT COME IN WITH WITHOUT DEVICES OR, UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE A MINI LAB THEY SET UP IN THEIR SCHOOL, WHICH THEY SHARED WITH US.

SO THAT THESE DEVICES ARE FOR THAT TO, TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR, THEIR DAILY EFFORTS AT THE SCHOOL SITE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

I, I, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEED OR THE IMPORTANCE OF THE DEVICES.

STRICTLY THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING PURCHASED WITH, WITH BOND MONEY.

AND, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT SOMEONE ON THE DISTRICT HAS MADE AN AFFIRMATIVE FINDING THAT THIS IS AN, AN ALLOWABLE USE OF THOSE FUNDS.

I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT EITHER.

I, I'M, I'M MORE RAISING THE QUESTION FROM A POINT OF PRUDENCE, UM, IS, IS NOT IN THIS CASE A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH ISSUE FOR ME, I THINK TO, TO LEAN TOWARDS OPPOSING THIS ITEM.

UM, BUT, UH, I, I DO WANNA BE ON THE RECORD WITH MY, MY CONCERN ABOUT, UH, SHORT LIFESPAN ITEMS WITH, UH, DEBT FINANCING.

I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND, AND, AND I, AND I WILL STATE THAT THE COMMENT MADE BY VICE CHAIR CAMPBELL IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER COMMENTS AND ACTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ISSUE.

SO THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THOUGH.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD LUCK ON YOUR RETIREMENT.

I'M WORKING ON IT.

.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM MEMBER, UH, CAMPBELL TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY MS. BELL.

UH, MR. POPE JOY, CALL FOR THE VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS IS THE VOTE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 27 BOARD DISTRICT PRIORITY AND LOCAL DISTRICT PRIORITY PROJECTS.

DR.

ASCHEN MILLER.

AYE.

THANK YOU MS. BELL.

AYE.

MS. BES? AYE.

MS. MUELLER? AYE.

MS. LEWIS? AYE.

MS. MCDOWELL? AYE.

MR. ROSS BACK TO MR. ROSS.

MR. MCFARLAND? AYE.

DR.

ROLLS? AYE.

YOU, MR. CAMPBELL? AYE.

MR. HAMNER? AYE.

AND I'LL GO BACK NOW TO MR. ROSS? YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

WAS WAITING, WAITING.

I HEARD SOMEONE JUMPED IN FRONT OF ME, SO I SAID OKAY.

I'LL JUST WAIT.

THANK YOU.

RECORDED IS A YES.

YES.

THE, THE, UH, RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND THE PROJECTS IS ADOPTED WITH 11 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES.

THANK YOU.

OH YEAH.

UH, HELLO.

WAKE UP.

UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN

[7. Chief Facilities Executive’s Report (Information Only)]

IS OUR CFE PRESENTATION.

MR. CHO, THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR YOUR EFFORTS TODAY, AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

I LIKE WHEN I GET TO SAY GOOD MORNING, AND NOW I GET TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON.

I KNOW WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION AFTER THIS, SO, UM, I WILL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

UH, REALLY BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL AT L-A-U-S-D, I WANTED TO JUST FOCUS ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE TO PREPARE FOR THE NEW DAY OF SCHOOL.

SOME EXCITING PROJECTS THAT WE FINISHED THAT ARE NOW READY FOR STUDENTS TO USE IN THEIR FIRST DAY BACK.

UM, AND THEN SOME PROJECT UPDATES FOR CRITICAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE PALISADES RECOVERY PROJECTS.

SO, UH, THIS DOES NOT, UH, INCLUDE NECESSARILY A BOND FUNDABLE EXPENSE, BUT, UH, AS PART OF FACILITIES MAINTENANCE, UH, REALLY TAKES THE LEAD IN ENSURING THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE READY FOR THE START OF SCHOOL YEAR.

SO, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.

UM, WE HAVE, ALL OF OUR CLASSROOMS DO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, UM, AND WE KNOW, UH, WE TEST THEM BEFORE THE END OF, UH, BEFORE SCHOOL RECESSES OUT.

AND THEN WHEN PRINCIPALS RETURN TO ENSURE

[02:10:01]

THAT ALL HVA SYSTEMS ARE, UH, OPERATING WELL, WE KNOW THERE ALWAYS WILL BE EXCEPTIONS WHEN, YOU KNOW, A TEACHER TURNS ON A SWITCH AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO THE BE THAT DAY AND IT DOESN'T WORK WELL, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A HEAT EVENT.

USUALLY THE START OF SCHOOL COINCIDES TO A HEAT EVENT, WHICH PUTS REAL WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR HVAC.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE MERV 13 FILTERS IN ALL OF OUR HVAC.

UH, EVERY CLASSROOM NOW HAS A HEPA PURIFIER SHOULD TEACHERS WANNA USE THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO USE, USE RESOURCES TO ENSURE THAT THE HVAC IS IN GOOD CONDITION, EXTENDED WORK HOURS BY OUR M AND O STAFF, LOCAL CONTRACTORS, 90% OF OUR EMERGENCY CALLS ARE RESPONDED TO WITHIN TWO HOURS.

UM, AND WE ALWAYS PRIORITIZE OUR YOUNGER STUDENTS IN SENSITIVE GROUPS.

FIRST, UH, DURING THE SUMMER, UM, WE DO NOT GO AT BREAK ON FACILITIES.

CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES AND MAINTENANCE CONTINUES, SO WE DO WHAT'S CALLED SUMMER DEEP CLEANING.

THIS ALLOWS US TO REALLY DO THE TYPE OF CLEANING THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

SO DUSTING, WIPING DOWN A FURNITURE HARD FLOOR CARE, THE SCRUBBING AND REFINISHING, CARPET, VACUUMING, WASHING WALLS.

UM, AND WE DO THIS EVEN IF THEY'RE SUMMER SCHOOL AT OUR SCHOOL SITES.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW EXCITING PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED THAT STUDENTS ARE RETURNING TO.

WE HAVE NEW POOLS AT HUNTINGTON PARK NORTH HOLLYWOOD HIGH SCHOOL MODERNIZATION, WHICH I HOPE SOME OF YOU CAN JOIN US WHEN WE DO THE RIBBON CUTTING.

WE FINISH THE MODERNIZATION AND SEISMIC OF THE HISTORIC KENNEDY HALL, FRAZIER HALL AND LIBRARY.

WE HAVE NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDINGS, NEW FIELDS.

UH, SOSUS HAS A RENOVATED AUDITORIUM.

HAMILTON HAS A NEW STADIUM.

TAFT HAS A NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

AND YES, THOSE ARE A COMBINATION OF NATURAL TURF AND SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS.

LET ME GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE PALISADES RECOVERY.

I KNOW, UM, WE HAD BROUGHT AN ITEM TO YOU BEFORE, UM, THE BOARD AND BOC WENT ON RECESS TO, UH, PROVIDE AN INVESTMENT INTO THE REBUILDING OF THESE THREE CAMPUSES.

SO AT MARQUEZ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, WE ARE ALMOST COMPLETED WITH THE INTERIM CAMPUS, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE PLANNING TO RETURN THAT SCHOOL TO, UM, THEIR ORIGINAL MARQUEZ CAMPUS IN 2025 PALISADES ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE'RE UNDERTAKING THE DESIGN OF THE PERMANENT REBUILD IN PALISADES HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS OVER AT THE SEARS BUILDING.

THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WILL RETURN NO CERNER THAN AFTER THANKSGIVING BREAK, OR ALSO BREAKNECK, UH, SPEED PUTTING IN THE, UH, TEMPORARY CLASSROOMS THAT WILL REPLACE THE APPROXIMATELY 30 CLASSROOMS THAT WERE DESTROYED IN THE FIRES.

SO, JUST A REALLY QUICK SCHEMATIC ON THAT.

THIS IS MARQUEES.

UM, THAT'S WHERE THE INTERIM CAMPUSES, THIS IS A LARGE SITE, SEVEN AND A HALF ACRES.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO HOST THEM THERE.

THIS IS IN AN AREA WHERE THE COMMUNITY DID WANNA RETURN TO THE SCHOOL.

UM, AND ABOUT 50% OF THAT AREA WAS NOT DESTROYED IN THE FIRES THAT COMPARES TO PALISADES.

A MUCH TIGHTER SITE.

FOUR ACRES THAT SAW ABOUT 80% OF THE ATTENDANCE AREA, UM, WAS DESTROYED BY THE FIRES AND THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY WANTED TO CONTINUE TO STAY WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT.

UM, AND WE'RE PROCEEDING VERY QUICKLY WITH THE PERMANENT REBUILD OF THE CLASSROOM BUILDINGS THAT WERE DESTROYED IN THE FIRE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE PALISADES CHARTER HIGH SCHOOL WHERE 30 OF THEIR CLASSROOMS WERE DESTROYED.

UM, WE'RE UTILIZING THE BASEBALL FIELD, ESSENTIALLY AN INTERIM CAMPUS FOR THOSE 30 CLASSROOMS UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO REBUILD THE PERMANENT REPLACEMENT.

SO WE HAVE THREE ARCHITECTURE FIRMS UNDERWAY.

WE'VE HELD COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE SUMMER.

UM, AND THE ARCHITECTURE IS BASICALLY IN WHAT WE CALL A SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.

WE'RE ON AN ACCELERATED TIMELINE.

WE'VE HAD, UM, VERY CONSTRUCTIVE MEETINGS WITH OUR RESPECTIVE PUBLIC AGENCIES THAT HAVE TO APPROVE, UM, THE PROCESS.

WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH DSA TO HAVE THEM EXPEDITE THEIR APPROVAL TO FOUR MONTHS THAT TYPICALLY WOULD TAKE SIX TO NINE MONTHS.

UM, WE'RE DOING SEVERAL CONCURRENT ACTIVITIES SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER THESE SCHOOLS WITHIN THREE AND A HALF YEARS FROM THE TIME OF THE FIRES.

JUST SOME PROJECT UPDATES.

UM, OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, EDA, COMPREHENSIVE MODERNIZATION, THAT'S 90% COMPLETE.

IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY AND HOPE THAT YOU CAN JOIN US.

IT'S REALLY A SPECTACULAR TRANSFORMATION, UM, TO THAT SCHOOL.

AND ALSO ADDRESSED SEISMICALLY VULNERABLE BUILDINGS, LOW CRANS.

THIS IS, UM, A DA PROJECTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.

UM, SATURN IS AN HVAC REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

UM, THAT WILL BE DONE IN 2026.

GOER'S, MIDDLE SCHOOL ROOFING, LIKE THE PROJECTS THAT, UH, MR. CHO SHOWED YOU, THOSE CONTINUE AS

[02:15:01]

WELL.

HOPEFULLY NOT QUITE WILL BE DONE BY THE RAINY SEASON.

UM, BUT DEFINITELY BY 2026.

RAINY SEASON.

ANOTHER ROOFING PROJECT THAT WILL BE DONE IN Q2 2026, THAT'S HALFWAY DONE.

UM, ANOTHER ROOFING PROJECT THAT WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF 2025, 90% COMPLETE.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE HIGHLIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WORK? AND HAPPY BACK TO SCHOOL, MS. LEWIS.

THANK YOU MS. TOES.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I MEANT TO BRING THIS UP EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING THE ROOFS.

UM, IS THERE A SET NUMBER OF ROOFS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED TO HAVE SOLAR IN ORDER FOR THE DISTRICT TO BE FULLY OPERATED BY RENEWABLE ENERGY? WE HAVE TWO WAYS OF DEALING WITH SOLAR.

UM, WE HAD A ALLOCATION IN THE BOND PROGRAM, UM, SPECIFICALLY AROUND ELECTRIFICATION.

AND I THINK THE BOCN THE BOARD SAW, UM, THE PROJECT FOR, I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND $130 MILLION TO PUT SOLAR OVER NUMEROUS SCHOOLS.

AND THEN AS PART OF OUR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SCHOOLS BUILDINGS, UM, WE NOW REQUIRE THAT SOLAR BE PUT ON THE ROOF.

SO WHEREVER WE'RE BUILDING A NEW, UM, STRUCTURE WHERE IT LENDS ITSELF TO SOLAR, MEANING THAT IT HAS AN ADEQUATE SIZE, IT'S NOT A VERY SMALL FACILITY, WE DO REQUIRE SOLAR BE INSTALLED IN THAT AS WELL.

SO WE'RE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE IN OUR SOLAR UPGRADES.

AND SO HAVE YOU, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED, IS THERE A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THAT MEETS YOUR SQUARE FOOT, SQUI SQUID SQUARE FOOT FOOTAGE TO GET TO YOUR SOLAR TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY? UM, WELL WE HAVE THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED MM-HMM .

WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE UNDERTAKING AS THERE ARE PROJECTS WE'RE PUTTING IT ON.

BUT NO, BESIDES THE ALLOCATION THAT WAS MADE, THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY A PROGRAM TO INSTALL SOLAR THROUGHOUT ALL THE EXISTING ROOFS.

WE DO IT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS.

OKAY.

SO GIVEN THAT IT, THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW ROOF TO HAVE SOLAR, ARE ALL OF THE ONES THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT EARLIER WITH MR. CHO AND THESE ROOFS, WILL THEY HAVE SOLAR INSTALLED ON THEM? NO.

THE REPLACEMENT ROOF PROJECTS DO NOT HAVE SOLAR TYPICALLY BECAUSE THE STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SOLAR OR OTHER ENERGY UPGRADES OR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED, UM, WOULD SURPASS WHAT WE'RE JUST DOING TO REPAIR THAT ROOF AND REPLACE IT.

UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT IN ON OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT MR. MCFARLAND? I, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES ON THE INSURANCE OR FEMA FUNDING FOR THE PALISADES, UH, LOCATIONS OR ANY UPDATES WITH CHANGES IN, IN FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE, THESE BOND FUNDED, UM, PROGRAMS? SURE.

UM, NO CHANGES ON THE FEDERAL SIDE.

WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FEMA AS WE MAKE APPLICATIONS.

I THINK AS I'VE SHARED WITH THE BOC BEFORE, THAT'S A ROLLING APPLICATION PROCESS.

UM, AND THEN IN ORDER TO, UH, RECEIVE FROM FUNDS FROM FEMA, WE HAVE TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS.

SO IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS.

UM, INSURANCE IS DIFFERENT INSURANCE, UM, THERE WAS AN ALLOCATION MADE TO THE DISTRICT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH INSURANCE AS WE GET FUNDS.

WHAT I'VE TALKED TO YOUR BOC STAFF BEFORE IS UNDERSTANDING THE INTERESTS, UM, WHICH IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE OF HOW ARE, WHAT IS THE RATE OF REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE HAVE AND HOW IS IT REPLENISHING THE BOND CATEGORIES IS EITHER LOOKING AT A, UH, BIANNUAL REPORT OR QUARTERLY REPORT, OR MAYBE AS WE GET REIMBURSEMENTS THAT AT OUR, AT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD INFORM BOTH THE BOC AND THE BOARD.

BUT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST STARTED AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT YET, UM, WE NEED TO PUT THOSE ACCOUNTING AND REPORTING SYSTEMS IN PLACE.

BUT DEFINITELY WE WANNA KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP.

UM, AND ALSO OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

'CAUSE WITH THOSE FUNDS, AS THEY DO COME IN, WE'LL BE REPLENISHING THOSE BOND CATEGORIES.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BOC STAFF ON THAT REPORTING.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

YOU APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

WELL, TECHNICALLY, THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR ITS QUARTERLY

[8. ITS BOC Quarterly Program Status Report Q2 2025 (April 1 – June 30, 2025) (Information Only)]

REPORT.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MONICA NOLAN.

OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON.

BOC MEMBERS AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS MONICA NOLAN AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF IT PROJECT MANAGEMENT.

AND TODAY I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE BOC QUARTERLY REPORT FOR Q2 2025, WHICH COVERS APRIL 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2025.

AND TODAY I HAVE FIVE IMPORTANT PROJECT UPDATES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN COVER THOSE AT THE END.

OUR FIRST UPDATE IS ON SLIDE NUMBER

[02:20:01]

10, AND IT IS FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM RADIO SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT MODERNIZES THE DISTRICT'S RADIO SYSTEM BY REPLACING OBSOLETE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREATES A SINGLE UNIFIED SYSTEM THAT ENABLES IMPROVED COMMUNICATIONS FOR SCHOOLS, SCHOOL, POLICE, TRANSPORTATION, AND EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.

IN Q2 2025, THE PROJECT TEAM COMPLETED THE CONFIGURATION AND TESTING OF THE SEVENTH AND FINAL RADIO TOWER SITE.

THE PROJECT TEAM ALSO COMPLETED THE FUNCTIONALITY ACCEPTANCE TESTING FOR THE RADIO SYSTEM.

KEY NEEDS WERE IDENTIFIED DURING ACCEPTANCE TESTING, RESULTING IN THE NEED TO SHIFT THE RADIO SYSTEM, GO LIVE, MOBILE RADIO INSTALLATION AND PORTABLE HANDHELD RADIO DEPLOYMENT FROM Q2 2025 TO Q3 2025.

THE RADIO SYSTEM, UH, IS NOW LIVE AS OF THE OPENING OF SCHOOLS.

UM, YES, OUR NEXT HIGHLIGHT IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 11 AND IS FOR THE SCHOOL NETWORK SYSTEMS UPGRADE PROJECT PHASE ONE, GROUP ONE, WHICH IS 154 SCHOOL SITES.

THIS PROJECT REPLACES OBSOLETE END OF LIFE AND FAILING NETWORK, TELEPHONE AND PUBLIC ADDRESS EQUIPMENT TO MODERNIZE TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS AND OR REPLACE SECURITY SYSTEMS. THE CURRENT PHASE OF THE PROJECT FOCUSES ON INSTALLATION OF NETWORK EQUIPMENT TO ENABLE SHAKE ALERT AND A GATEWAY TO ENABLE MULTICAST BROADCASTING ON CAMPUSES.

FOR THIS QUARTER, WE ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE COMPLETION OF ALL SCOPE SCHOOL SITES.

THESE SITES NOW HAVE SHAKE ALERT NETWORK UPGRADES AND GATEWAYS INSTALLED.

THIS GROUP OF SCHOOLS IS NOW SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 13, WE HAVE THE SCHOOL NETWORK SYSTEMS UPGRADE PHASE TWO, GROUP THREE, WHICH IS 110 SCHOOL SITES.

THIS PROJECT REPLACES OBSOLETE END OF LIFE AND FAILING NETWORK, TELEPHONE AND PUBLIC ADDRESS EQUIPMENT TO MODERNIZE TELECOMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. AND FOR THIS QUARTER, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE WITH ALL WORK COMPLETED AT SIX SITES, UH, MEETING THE TARGET OF SIX SITES.

THESE SITES NOW HAVE UPGRADED VOICEOVER IP, PHONE, PUBLIC ADDRESS, LOCAL AREA NETWORK, WIRELESS, LOCAL AREA NETWORK, AND FIBER SYSTEMS. AND OUR FINAL UPDATE FOR THIS QUARTER IS ON SLIDE NUMBER 16 AND IS FOR THE TELECOM AND NETWORK UPGRADES PROJECT AT 83 SCHOOL SITES.

THE ORIGINAL SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT WAS TO REPLACE FAILING AND OBSOLETE TELEPHONE NETWORK AND PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT AT 83 SCHOOL SITES.

THE PROJECT TEAM IS NOW ENGAGED IN DEPLOYMENT OF NETWORK EQUIPMENT TO ENABLE SHAKE ALERTS AND GATEWAYS TO ENABLE MULTICAST BROADCASTING ON CAMPUS.

FOR THIS QUARTER, THE PROJECT TEAM COMPLETED ALL WORK AT 82 SCHOOL SITES, WHICH IS JUST SHY OF THE TARGET OF 83 SCHOOL SITES.

THE FINAL REMAINING SCHOOL SITE HAS A DIFFERENT NON-COMPATIBLE PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM IN PLACE.

AS SUCH, THE PROJECT TEAM IS INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO COMPLETE THE SHAKE ALERT UPGRADE.

UM, THIS HAS RESULTED IN THE NEED TO EXTEND THE PROJECT TIMELINE, UH, TO COMPLETE THE Q4 INSTEAD OF Q2 2025.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE Q2 2025 BOC QUARTERLY REPORT FOR APRIL 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2025.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, TECHNICALLY DONE, WE WOULD BE AT, UH, ITEM

[9. Discussion of Non-Agenda Matters]

NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF NON AGENDIZED MATTERS.

I DO HAVE ONE I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING.

I HAVE ONE AND YOU HAVE ONE.

WE MIGHT BE THE SAME.

UH, I, I JUST, IT'S IN RELATIONSHIP TO SOMETHING THAT'S COME BECOME MORE, UM, MORE, I'M MORE AWARE OF SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN THE INDUSTRY.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, DEVELOPER, UM, IMPACT FEES WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH COMMERCIAL AND EVEN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

AND YOU PAY A FEE BASED ON THE VALUATION OF THE PROJECT TO, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND IT'S JUST STARTING TO COME UP.

AND EVEN WITH OUR, UM, LETTER TODAY BY ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS, UM, IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSING THE ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THESE DO DUE IMPACT THE BOND OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THOSE MONIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE PURPOSE OF THE IMPACT FEES ARE DIRECTLY AS DEFINED.

[02:25:01]

UM, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS OF A, SAY IT'S A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING.

THAT MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO OFFSET THAT IMPACT, UM, THAT THAT PROJECT WOULD HAVE, OR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT WHICH BRINGS IN MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS AS WELL.

AND THEN WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT THERE ARE POSSIBLY SOME CITIES THAT ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR FEES, FEES OR WE DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR FEES FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING.

EITHER THEY'RE COLLECTING THE MONEY AND KEEPING IT, OR THEY'RE NOT ASKING THE DEVELOPERS TO PAY THE FEES, WHICH AGAIN, IS ALSO AN UNFAIR, UH, SITUATION.

SO I WANTED TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT, OR, OR JUST PLANT THE SEED ABOUT LOOKING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL.

UM, AND IT ISN'T JUST BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY, UM, ONE OF OUR GUEST SPEAKERS TODAY.

THIS, THIS CAME UP A, A LITTLE WHILE BACK AND IT'S, IT'S JUST REMINDING ME THAT, UH, THIS IS AN ISSUE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA OH, THANK YOU.

UH, THAT, THAT'S, UH, I THINK A QUESTION MANY OF US HAVE AND, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL, UM, PERHAPS IF WE COULD REQUEST FROM THE DISTRICT, UH, SOME INFORMATION, SOME MORE GRANULAR INFORMATION ON, ON THE, UH, PROCESS FOR ENSURING NOT ONLY THE COLLECTION OF THOSE DEVELOPER FEES, BUT UH, SOME INSIGHTS INTO HOW, UH, THEY ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED AND WHETHER THEY'RE IN FACT BENEFITING THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, MY REQUEST, UH, IS, IS THAT, UH, STAFF WOULD, UM, PROVIDE ALL OF THE BOC MEMBERS WITH A LIST OF IN PROGRESS PROJECTS, UH, THAT MEET CERTAIN THRESHOLDS.

JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M THINKING PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS OVER $7 MILLION THAT INVOLVE EITHER MAJOR MODERNIZATIONS OR CLASSROOM BUILDING REPLACEMENTS, UH, UP MAJOR UPGRADES TO, TO CLASSROOM INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE, WHILE WE DO GET INVITED AND WE APPRECIATE THE INVITATIONS TO THE COMPLETED PROJECTS, UM, AND, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THE, THE ULTIMATE RESULTS, UH, OF THESE BOND FUNDS.

I THINK A PIECE THAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE, THE STATUS OF THE PROJECTS AS THEY ARE PROGRESSING AND THE IMPACT, UH, OF THEM ON, ON NOT ONLY THE SCHOOL AND THE STUDENTS, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY IF THERE ARE DELAYS OR, UH, IF KNOW, COST OVERRUNS, UM, HOW THOSE ARE, ARE AFFECTING THE BOND PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S RELEVANT TO OUR CHARGE UNDER THE EDUCATION CODE, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, INSPECTING SCHOOL FACILITIES TO ENSURE BOND REVENUES ARE EXPENDED IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO REQUEST, UH, A FROM STAFF, A, A LIST, BE SHARED WITH ALL THE MEMBERS, UH, OF, OF THOSE IN PROGRESS PROJECTS SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME UP WITH PERHAPS SOME, UH, SITES THAT WE WOULD AS, AS SUBSETS OF THIS BODY HAVE INDIVIDUAL LEVELS OF INTEREST IN BASED ON OUR DIFFERENT AREAS OF EXPERTISE OR OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN CURATE A LIST AND THEN, AND THEN, UH, ADVANCE THAT TO THE DISTRICT SO WE CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO, TO VISIT IN PROGRESS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AS WELL AS, AS, AS THE COMPLETED ONES, WHICH WE DO APPRECIATE GOING TO THE RIBBON CUTTINGS FOR.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OUR VARIOUS SCHEDULES PERMIT, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, UH, AS PART OF OUR OVERSIGHT FUNCTION.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS A LITTLE BIT.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE IN THE INDUSTRY, I THINK YOU SOMETIMES UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS THAT SITES THEMSELVES THAT ARE UNIQUE, EVEN WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM WILL, UM, CAN COME FORWARD THAT HAS IMPACTS ON COST, EVEN ESTIMATING, UH, ISSUES WITH DSA, THEIR INPUT WITH DSA IS A, IS A GOVERNING BODY FOR CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT, UH, PLAN REVIEW AND APPROVALS, UM, DISABLED ACCESS, UM, UH, GREEN CODE AND SUSTAINABILITY.

UH, EVERY SITE HAS THESE UNIQUE FEATURES AND WE'RE OFTENTIMES BLINDSIDED OR ASKED IN A QUESTION, WHY IS A PROJECT COSTING AS MUCH? OR WHY HAS A PROJECT ONCE IT STARTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THROUGH DISCOVERY SOILS CONDITIONS OR ANY OTHER TYPES OF CONDITIONS, BUILDING CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN, IN MAJOR MODS, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE THESE EXPENSES OCCURRING? AND WITHOUT, WE'RE JUST GETTING THE END, UH, RESULTS AND, YOU KNOW, PRETTY PICTURES AND OH, BY THE WAY, THIS IS WHAT IT COST, BUT WE NEVER REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT GOT THERE AND WHY.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS, NORMALLY THERE'S SOME GOOD JUSTIFICATIONS.

AND I THINK OUR AUDITS, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE SO SMALL IN THE NATURE OF PICKING PROJECTS THAT WE, WE DON'T EVER REALLY CAPTURE THIS IN A, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN BE BETTER INFORMED.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST ALLOWS US TO BE A BETTER OVERSIGHT ENTITY.

I, I FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

HOPE THAT WE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HELP US RECIPROCATE WITH THAT INFORMATION.

ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

UM, I DID HAVE, I'M NOT A MEMBER, SO I HOPE YOU'LL INDULGE ME.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW,

[02:30:01]

THIS LAST AGENDA WITH THE, UH, UH, MOU ITEM WE OFFERED, WE MADE IT CLEAR TO THE MEMBERS THAT THEY COULD GET A BRIEFING, YOU KNOW, TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SINCE IT WAS KIND OF A DENSE ITEM, UH, AND HAS A LONG HISTORY TO IT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BE SURE THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT AS STAFF WE'RE AVAILABLE TO YOU, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE TIME LEADING UP TO A MEETING AFTER THE, AFTER THE AGENDA MATERIALS HAVE BEEN TRANSMITTED.

UM, AS YOU'RE REVIEWING THEM, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE, THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE MATERIALS OR PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, HOW, UH, THE MOTIONS ARE HANDLED AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE RESOLUTIONS, UH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED, UH, OF STAFF.

YOU HAVE OUR, YOU HAVE PERA'S EMAIL ADDRESS, CERTAINLY, UM, AND SHE CAN PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH ANY OF US IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS OR, OR TIM'S.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

JOE'S APPROACH.

JOE'S APPROACHABLE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID TODAY.

I'M JUST SHOCKED AND SURPRISED THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY KNEW IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND NOBODY, NOT EVEN JUST A, A VISUAL.

AND THEN WHILE YOU'RE TALKING, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR HEAD DOWN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NO ATTENTION TO THIS WHATSOEVER AND THE PERCEPTION JUST KEEPS RISING.

ANYWAY.

ALRIGHT WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE A GAVEL, BUT WE'RE ADJOURNED.